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I like the look of jeans and a white shirt, with or with out a jacket, but never a tie.

 

depending on the context, can look perfectly dressy in the evening.....

 

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I don't. Never had a place to go that I'd need one.

 

On the recent episode of "The Good Doctor" there was discussion whether the character that Freddie Highmore plays should buy or rent a tuxedo.

 

 

No, I don't own one and I never would. If I had an occasion to dress up, I would wear a dark suit, white shirt and dark tie. Since tuxedos have become such a common uniform in the hospitality industry, a nice suit actually seems dressier to me.

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I bought one when I had several black tie fund raisers in one year. The savings in rental fees more than paid for it. Since I have stopped going to such affairs, I have not worn it in quite awhile.

I did use it as part of a costume for Halloween in which I wore the tuxedo. I placed a mask stuffed with newspapers attached to a large serving tray (disposable) with appropriate garnish around it. A bloody hatchet completed the ensemble. I was a "head" waiter and I spent most of the evening mulling around asking attractive men if they would like some head.

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Yep, bought one for £99 from a menswear shop in the local town when I was on a course with the RAF. There were a few occasions during the few months I was there where it was mandatory for Mess functions and several more where it was preferred. I think it would have cost me £40 to rent one, so like others have said, buying made sense. I still have it although it is several years since I've worn it.

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What is the difference between a tuxedo and white tie and tails?

This is a reasonably good summary of where things are now.

 

https://www.dmarge.com/2016/05/difference-formal-semi-formal.html#gsi1

 

As it says, formal used to mean white tie (tails), semi-formal meant black tie (tuxedo, or dinner suit), but semi-formal now often means lounge suit. The military have uniform equivalents of (at least) black tie. Earlier in my time in the RAAF when we had a base at Penang, guys would have shirts made that had the required white front, cuffs and collar but had wild patterns (think batik or Hawaiian shirt material) for the back and sleeves. So, during the formal part of the meal they would look the part, but after that they could tone the look down. Despite what the article says about black, you often see people wearing [matching] coloured ties and cummerbunds. (I have a red set of them.)

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This is a reasonably good summary of where things are now.

 

https://www.dmarge.com/2016/05/difference-formal-semi-formal.html#gsi1

 

As it says, formal used to mean white tie (tails), semi-formal meant black tie (tuxedo, or dinner suit), but semi-formal now often means lounge suit. The military have uniform equivalents of (at least) black tie. Earlier in my time in the RAAF when we had a base at Penang, guys would have shirts made that had the required white front, cuffs and collar but had wild patterns (think batik or Hawaiian shirt material) for the back and sleeves. So, during the formal part of the meal they would look the part, but after that they could tone the look down. Despite what the article says about black, you often see people wearing [matching] coloured ties and cummerbunds. (I have a red set of them.)

 

Thank-you!

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This is a reasonably good summary of where things are now.

 

https://www.dmarge.com/2016/05/difference-formal-semi-formal.html#gsi1

 

As it says, formal used to mean white tie (tails), semi-formal meant black tie (tuxedo, or dinner suit), but semi-formal now often means lounge suit. The military have uniform equivalents of (at least) black tie. Earlier in my time in the RAAF when we had a base at Penang, guys would have shirts made that had the required white front, cuffs and collar but had wild patterns (think batik or Hawaiian shirt material) for the back and sleeves. So, during the formal part of the meal they would look the part, but after that they could tone the look down. Despite what the article says about black, you often see people wearing [matching] coloured ties and cummerbunds. (I have a red set of them.)

 

Let's not forget the morning suit.

 

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Perhaps it hasn't come up because that is formal daytime dress, seen only at pushy weddings. A top hat and morning coat used to be obligatory for presidential inaugurations, but the last time I remember seeing it was for Kennedy's inauguration.

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When I was in my early 30s I kept getting invited to black tie events -- a few highbrow engagement parties and weddings, and some corporate events. I bought a tux and it eventually paid for itself compared to rental fees. A few years ago I gave it away to a younger friend who was getting married, and I paid for alterations as part of the gift. His wife was very grateful. Last year my friend asked if it was OK to give it to a buddy for a Halloween costume. It would be torn up as part of some upperclass zombie theme. I told him that it was his tuxedo now, and to do as he saw fit. I'd rather see it get used a few times than let it rot in my closet.

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Perhaps it hasn't come up because that is formal daytime dress, seen only at pushy weddings. A top hat and morning coat used to be obligatory for presidential inaugurations, but the last time I remember seeing it was for Kennedy's inauguration.

 

The thing that I like about formal daytime dress is that hasn't been rendered cliche through overuse and overexposure. Because it has fallen out of use, when you see it, it retains its special aura. When my partner and I got married, we thought we would like to dress that way, but when we checked into the cost we had difficulty finding a place that could provide such an outfit and it turned out it would cost hundreds of dollars for each of us. Practicality won out.

 

Guys in tuxedos look like wine stewards in high-end restaurants. One of the surest ways for an escort's profile to turn me off is if he has a pic of himself in a tuxedo holding a champagne flute. It says, "I am a total ass."

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I'm reminded of the Downton Abbey episode where Lord Grantham's white tie outfit went missing, and he had to wear black tie; his mother (Maggie Smith, the dowager countess) mistakes her son for a butler.

 

I've not watched that series but I thought one way to tell the guests from the servers was that the servers wore white gloves.

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I've not watched that series but I thought one way to tell the guests from the servers was that the servers wore white gloves.

 

And the butler was dressed black-tie (tuxedo, black bow ties) as opposed to white-tie (white bow tie, white waistcoat and tailcoat.) White-tie is the most formal evening dress

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I'm reminded of the Downton Abbey episode where Lord Grantham's white tie outfit went missing, and he had to wear black tie; his mother (Maggie Smith, the dowager countess) mistakes her son for a butler.

 

I really enjoyed Downton Abbey, but it always made me think, "There's more to life than changing your clothes all day."

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Clearly, fashion is subjective.

 

Also, take into account that most people don't fit properly into their jackets and tuxedos, making what should be a handsome outfit look frumpy or odd.

 

Not everything has to be bespoke to look like a million dollars: You just have to have the right tailor :)

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A tuxedo is an item that can often be found in a consignment shop. Plan ahead and look in high end consignment shops. You can obtain a quality tux that will last for years after investing a few dollars in tailoring. A used rental will pay for itself once used twice. In summer (only summer!) a white dinner jacket can look sharp with the same pants, shirt, studs, and cummerbund from your tuxedo. Also, do formal wear justice and get patent leather shoes.

Proudly submitted thoughts from an unabashed traditionalist!

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