Another(!) reason I fly only on my Private Jet.

[Larstrup]

That to me is a 'could happen to anyone' moment. Careless on the part of United, shouldn't have happened, but it did, and to my mind once the mistake had been realised the airline did the right thing. As to not notifying her, illustration if ever it were needed that you should check the departure board at the airport, especially if you checked in on line hours earlier. Announcements? In my recent recollection, foreign airlines in Australia and the US make announcements in English and their own language (Cathay in Cantonese not Mandarin - screw you Beijing) but local ones do so only in English.

 

Most likely untrue, but funny, I recall a story of an Air New Zealand flight to Los Angeles being announced as having 'continued service to Auckland'. One passenger allegedly heard this as 'to Oakland' and stayed on board. Then, two hours into the flight ....

 

I disagree. The boarding pass for a Newark to Charles de Gaulle flight leg should have been rejected at the point of boarding, simply based on the scanning technology involved alone. Additionally, and secondly, a flight attendant paying attention to a boarding pass with a seat asssignment, where the seat is already occupied by a passenger going to the right destination is the second fail in this scenario.

 

United failed twice here.

 

First with their scanning technology which allowed this passenger to board in the first place and secondly with their human interaction with an onboard seating issue due to an invalid boarding pass for that flight.

 

This imo, is not a "it could happen to anyone" situation. It's a stunning security failure both human and technological.

[+ HornyRetiree]

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/travel/questions-united-trnd/

 

Now, that bearded guy doing the talking can use my bed until he gets a flight:)

[wklucas]

Yeah, the

 

Feds say the name in the ticket is the only name that can fly the seat. The family, especially Daddy-o presumed themselves into that royal fuck-up.

 

I didn't pay close attention to the details, but some news reports were saying that Fed regulations / policies are more flexible / different with kids in certain circumstances....but also perhaps, airlines can have their own individual policies for this exact situation.

[MikeyGMin]

Yeah, the

 

Feds say the name in the ticket is the only name that can fly the seat. The family, especially Daddy-o presumed themselves into that royal fuck-up.

Yeah. This one seems fishy. Only they know the truth, but my money is on him not wanting to pay the fee to change the ticket and was counting on Delta not noticing that it was supposed to be a much older child in that seat.

[instudiocity]

I didn't pay close attention to the details, but some news reports were saying that Fed regulations / policies are more flexible / different with kids in certain circumstances....but also perhaps, airlines can have their own individual policies for this exact situation.

Maybe you are correct, but the passenger manifests are passed through a security check within 24 hours of departure to ascertain that none of the passengers are on watch lists. At some point, the manifest is locked and the only way you can 'unlock' it is to go back through TSA procedures. Another interesting wrinkle is if you walk up to a ticket counter and buy a same day, one-way ticket - no matter who you are, you're getting the "full anal" TSA security once over.

 

Once the facts come out, if they do, this father who chose to send one child back earlier and then appropriated that child's seat for the 2 year old failed to do something or ignored doing something. Since infant-in-arms don't have a ticket but are listed on the manifest, that 2 year old was already on the plane. The fact that he was in a car seat in his sibling's seat and the named sibling for that seat wasn't there, set the airline up for this customer service fiasco.

 

My money is on the father refusing to pay a $200 change fee to register the name of the 2 year old for that seat? Or maybe the airline wanted him to buy the seat again once he put the first kid on the earlier flight. Who knows? But Daddy-o probably caused these issues and certainly he didn't follow procedure and got his tit in the wringer.

[+ azdr0710]

and yet another payday opportunity??....I know there are two (or is it three??!!) sides to every story......

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/airplane-traveler-files-lawsuit-after-14-hour-flight-between-obese-n756241

[bigvalboy]

and the payday opportunities continue????.......

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-family-kicked-delta-flight-threatened-jail-refusing-give-toddler-n755141

 

A Delta fuck-up in my opinion, and I LOVE Delta. Once again it's that pesky little problem of 'over-booking'

 

I always book several months in advance and then check the ticket online at least once a week, checking for changes, until I fly. But my enthusiasm for air travel has only increased over the years.

[bigvalboy]

Maybe you are correct, but the passenger manifests are passed through a security check within 24 hours of departure to ascertain that none of the passengers are on watch lists. At some point, the manifest is locked and the only way you can 'unlock' it is to go back through TSA procedures. Another interesting wrinkle is if you walk up to a ticket counter and buy a same day, one-way ticket - no matter who you are, you're getting the "full anal" TSA security once over.

 

Once the facts come out, if they do, this father who chose to send one child back earlier and then appropriated that child's seat for the 2 year old failed to do something or ignored doing something. Since infant-in-arms don't have a ticket but are listed on the manifest, that 2 year old was already on the plane. The fact that he was in a car seat in his sibling's seat and the named sibling for that seat wasn't there, set the airline up for this customer service fiasco.

 

My money is on the father refusing to pay a $200 change fee to register the name of the 2 year old for that seat? Or maybe the airline wanted him to buy the seat again once he put the first kid on the earlier flight. Who knows? But Daddy-o probably caused these issues and certainly he didn't follow procedure and got his tit in the wringer.

 

All this is true, except that it was Delta who overbooked the flight and then went looking for available seats to try and accommodate passengers waiting on stand-by. They also allowed the child to fly in a car seat going to Hawaii, then said it was not permitted on the return flight, and also told the Daddy (cute BTW) that he could hold the child in his lap. Well of course he argued their inconsistent policy and after losing that argument agreed to hold his child in lieu of getting thrown off, but then some yahoo at Delta decided it was no longer an option and insisted they disembark. OK Daddy-o was wrong, but so was Delta.

 

My solution would be to always fly your "boys" private...

[+ azdr0710]

the Daddy (cute BTW)

 

sorry for huge picture!

 

yeah, not bad-looking......very, very Orange County-looking couple!!.....good friends with a guy, also in HB, whose family could pass for these!

 

[+ glutes]

Cellphone video captured the mayhem that erupted Monday night at the Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after hundreds of travelers became stranded.

 

Security wrestled with unruly passengers as punches flew, leading to at least three arrests. Screams wailed through the under-construction terminal, as officers wrestled passengers to the ground.

 

At the Spirit Airlines ticket counters, swarms of distraught customers waited two to three hours in an attempt to learn why they had been stranded in Broward County, Florida.

 

The cancellations stemmed from an ongoing labor dispute between Spirit Airlines and the Air Line Pilots Association, International. Pilots are arguing for better contracts, which they say are currently below industry standards.

 

[bigvalboy]

Cellphone video captured the mayhem that erupted Monday night at the Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after hundreds of travelers became stranded.

 

Security wrestled with unruly passengers as punches flew, leading to at least three arrests. Screams wailed through the under-construction terminal, as officers wrestled passengers to the ground.

 

At the Spirit Airlines ticket counters, swarms of distraught customers waited two to three hours in an attempt to learn why they had been stranded in Broward County, Florida.

 

The cancellations stemmed from an ongoing labor dispute between Spirit Airlines and the Air Line Pilots Association, International. Pilots are arguing for better contracts, which they say are currently below industry standards.

 

 

 

You often get what you pay for....

 

http://deltaprivateeverywhere.com/uploads/landing-page-images/one-column//large/LandingPage_charter_1920x418px-copy_color.jpg

Edited May 9, 2017 by bigvalboy

[marylander1940]

You often get what you pay for....

 

http://www.ellejet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Private-jet-charter-flights.jpg

 

This is the 2nd time I post this video and it's also about flying. In the previous thread a frequent poster complained about being rushed by the flight attendants to step into his seat while putting his carry on suitcase up in storage. It's on subject again.

 

[mike carey]

In the great Franco-Belgian tradition of entartement the CEO of Qantas had a lemon meringue pie shoved in his face at a business breakfast in Perth a couple of days ago. In this case the reason for it remains unclear, but this may be an appropriate response to some of his US counterparts, for example United Airlines CEO 'dragging a screaming customer off a flight is a good idea' Muñoz.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-09/qantas-chief-alan-joyce-cops-cream-pie-in-face-in-perth/8510156

[+ azdr0710]

Cellphone video captured the mayhem that erupted Monday night at the Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after hundreds of travelers became stranded.

 

Security wrestled with unruly passengers as punches flew, leading to at least three arrests. Screams wailed through the under-construction terminal, as officers wrestled passengers to the ground.

 

At the Spirit Airlines ticket counters, swarms of distraught customers waited two to three hours in an attempt to learn why they had been stranded in Broward County, Florida.

 

The cancellations stemmed from an ongoing labor dispute between Spirit Airlines and the Air Line Pilots Association, International. Pilots are arguing for better contracts, which they say are currently below industry standards.

 

 

 

would expect nothing less, or more, from Spirit passengers......not that I'm a SNOB or anything ......Southwest all the way for me!.....

[+ azdr0710]

In the great Franco-Belgian tradition of entartement the CEO of Qantas had a lemon meringue pie shoved in his face at a business breakfast in Perth a couple of days ago. In this case the reason for it remains unclear, but this may be an appropriate response to some of his US counterparts, for example United Airlines CEO 'dragging a screaming customer off a flight is a good idea' Muñoz.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-09/qantas-chief-alan-joyce-cops-cream-pie-in-face-in-perth/8510156

 

too bad the pie seemed more crusty than creamy....not enough gooey cream and meringue seemed to really get all over his face......

[mike carey]

In this case the reason for it remains unclear

Turns out that the gentleman concerned opposes Qantas' strong public support for marriage equality, and wanted to demonstrate to its CEO (Alan Joyce) that there are 'consequences' from the 'mainstream community' for this support. Now that the motive has become clear, Joyce will be pressing charges.

[+ glutes]

Los Angeles (CNN)Another flight, another fight.

 

This one happened aboard a Southwest plane shortly after it landed in Burbank, California. It's the latest example of rage erupting on board over any number of issues, from canceled flights to seat disputes to apparent misunderstandings. And like other cases, it was all caught on cell phone video.

Southwest flight 2530 had traveled Sunday from Dallas and was on a short layover at Hollywood Burbank Airport before continuing on to Oakland, California.

 

 

As the plane taxied to the gate, a fistfight broke out between two men, Burbank police said. The altercation worsened as fellow passengers tried to get off the plane at the gate, the airline said.

[+ azdr0710]

Los Angeles (CNN)Another flight, another fight.

 

This one happened aboard a Southwest plane shortly after it landed in Burbank, California. It's the latest example of rage erupting on board over any number of issues, from canceled flights to seat disputes to apparent misunderstandings. And like other cases, it was all caught on cell phone video.

Southwest flight 2530 had traveled Sunday from Dallas and was on a short layover at Hollywood Burbank Airport before continuing on to Oakland, California.

 

 

As the plane taxied to the gate, a fistfight broke out between two men, Burbank police said. The altercation worsened as fellow passengers tried to get off the plane at the gate, the airline said.

 

film at 11......of course, this would never happen on Emirates

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWEVdsdENo

[+ glutes]

Former FBI Director James Comey may have been canned by President Trump, but he got to take advantage of one final perk of the job -- a private jet ride back home.

 

Comey skipped his scheduled speaking engagement Tuesday night at the Directors Guild of America in Hollywood after he got word of his firing, and instead headed to LAX as a private citizen ... but still with a police escort.

 

He was taken straight to a private plane at Atlantic Aviation, and after a few friendly words with law enforcement officers, hopped on his ride and got outta Dodge. According to records, the G5 is owned by a private company, but leased to the U.S. government.

 

Comey's a tall dude -- 6'8" -- so having to fly coach after being fired would have been a challenge ... and just downright cruel.

~TMZ~

[bigvalboy]

film at 11......of course, this would never happen on Emirates

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWWEVdsdENo

 

+1...and @azdr0710 you're not a snob!

 

If you take an airline, masquerading as a Greyhound bus, expect that level of passenger. I was boarding a Spirit flight once (It's a long story how I wound up on Spirit) and the boarding process was slow and confusing. People just tried pushing toward the gate, and we were on the verge of winding up on the 6' O'clock news, when this guy behind me in line began bitching about how they were boarding the plane. As he got louder, he tried to enlist me into complaining also. I turned around, put my hand up as a jester to stop him from talking and said, "Look buddy, leave me outta this. I have one thing on my plate today, and that is to get to New York, and I want to get there with as little drama as possible, so please don't talk to me anymore."

 

That was the end of it, and that was the end of me trying to save a few pennies and flying on the cheap...

[+ glutes]

PARIS — Airlines are squeezing as many passengers as they can onto their jets, but one seat manufacturer believes its product can help carriers push capacity to the absolute limit. And it may help push down fares.

Say goodbye to whatever personal space you had left.

 

 

At this week's Paris Air Show, lots of curious convention-goers eagerly wanted to try out Avio Interior's "SkyRider" saddle-like airplane seat, but that's probably not the reception it would get if people found it installed on their next flight. See it in the slideshow at the top of this post.

SkyRider passengers would lean on a bicycle-seat type cushion that sits higher than your traditional airline seat. Legs sort of hang off the saddle, as they would if you were riding a horse. The seat back sits straight up, forcing good posture. A knee cut-out provides another precious few inches of legroom.

 

You're neither sitting nor standing — you're sort of leaning.

 

[+ Midwestern Guy]

PARIS — Airlines are squeezing as many passengers as they can onto their jets, but one seat manufacturer believes its product can help carriers push capacity to the absolute limit. And it may help push down fares.

Say goodbye to whatever personal space you had left.

 

 

At this week's Paris Air Show, lots of curious convention-goers eagerly wanted to try out Avio Interior's "SkyRider" saddle-like airplane seat, but that's probably not the reception it would get if people found it installed on their next flight. See it in the slideshow at the top of this post.

SkyRider passengers would lean on a bicycle-seat type cushion that sits higher than your traditional airline seat. Legs sort of hang off the saddle, as they would if you were riding a horse. The seat back sits straight up, forcing good posture. A knee cut-out provides another precious few inches of legroom.

 

You're neither sitting nor standing — you're sort of leaning.

 

These are horrible! If they implement, I would hope it’s only on very short flights.

[TruthBTold]

Why not just hang people like slaughtered pigs that you see in butcher shop windows. Gag them first and then hang them. You could get a lot of people on a plane that way.

[+ sync]

PARIS — Airlines are squeezing as many passengers as they can onto their jets, but one seat manufacturer believes its product can help carriers push capacity to the absolute limit. And it may help push down fares.

Say goodbye to whatever personal space you had left.

 

 

At this week's Paris Air Show, lots of curious convention-goers eagerly wanted to try out Avio Interior's "SkyRider" saddle-like airplane seat, but that's probably not the reception it would get if people found it installed on their next flight. See it in the slideshow at the top of this post.

SkyRider passengers would lean on a bicycle-seat type cushion that sits higher than your traditional airline seat. Legs sort of hang off the saddle, as they would if you were riding a horse. The seat back sits straight up, forcing good posture. A knee cut-out provides another precious few inches of legroom.

 

You're neither sitting nor standing — you're sort of leaning.

 

I would be interested to know what medical professionals think of it.

[+ oldNbusted]

I'm wondering if I will ever fly again.