Escorts: Turn your fucking cell phone off

[MGTOW_Tx]

I think it is generational, guys. If you are not teaching or working with young people you may not noticed, but smart phones have become an extremely strong addiction. I am not making an analogy, young people are literally addicted to their phones, we better get used to it.

 

I agree, still doesn't mean we have to tolerate it.

[MGTOW_Tx]

I used to teach a dance class for students who want to become professionals in the theatre/tv/movies. We did an extensive warm up in bare feet and then took a 2 to 3 minute break to get some water and put on shoes to learn the combination being taught that week. Every single, fucking one of the kids in that class got out his/her phone during that time and I used to get red with rage. But I wanted the class to be a positive, energizing experience so I never said anything. I would just stand in front of the class and wait until the little darlings had finished their obviously very urgent phone tasks. Their parents used to sit in the hallway watching the class through a huge window and were invariably on their phones. I admit to overarching bitchiness but one day when I was particularly frustrated and insulted, I said to a group of dance moms in the hallway, "They say addiction is passed from generation to generation and I think the theory has been proved through your kids. Have you guys considered Phones Anonymous?" Of course they complained about me to management, and of course I was disciplined and then subsequently fired for rudeness - by text message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Were fucked I mean it, I feel it...had an ex try to dump me once over text and that was a long time ago but still very telling...frankly i only use a laptop and when i pick the smartphone up to read something my eyes hurt and i turn that thing off around 6pm yet try to never look at that damn thing.

 

I could go on but i really dont want to get to personal

[corymonroe]

Interesting how people consume the literal word, or not.

 

I'm not all-knowing, but I did not take the Op's first post to mean that he actually said that to an escort. The thread seemed like an opportunity to vent, and perhaps enlighten, about a very frustrating phenomenon.

 

Juan is correct when he says, "respect goes both ways." It never hurts to be reminded of that, especially when someone is venting. No novice should come here and assume it's OK to talk to someone like that. Unfortunately, there are probably too many clients who feel that just because they pay for a service, that gives them some entitlement to abuse people.

 

Bad behavior is bad behavior, I don't care how culturally ingrained it is. If you choose to engage in bad behavior, then you also have to accept the consequences.

[MGTOW_Tx]

Don't get me wrong; I don't fault anyone for being uncomfortable with anything. If you dislike something, you dislike it, and that's it. Whether once or 25 times during an hour, if you don't like my phone coming out of my pocket, you have every right to feel the way you feel.

 

All I am saying is that when someone feels comfortable writing in a public forum: "Put your fucking phone away, I am paying you hundreds of dollars for your time.", I would be uncomfortable even considering the possibility of meeting such a person.

 

Respect goes both ways. Often enough, it is people who are disrespectful the ones who complaint about being disrespected.

 

"Hey sexy, we are having a really nice, intimate time together... Would you mind turning your phone off so we can focus on one another?"

 

"Turn your fucking phone off... I m paying you hundreds of dollars for your time."

 

Some may be tempted to say that the client may have not said that to the escort's face. This may be true; just remember how easy it is to read each other's real thoughts during our human interactions. So many clients have noticed how certain escort seemed disgusted about them, or were derisive or annoyed. Reading other people is very easy for human beings... Escorts are human too. (I know, what a revolutionary concept!) If you show up to your session feeling this dull contempt for your past escorts or the interaction you're about to have, I am guessing it will be very easy for your partner to feel it and act accordingly.

 

Of course, I personally believe it is basic courtesy to turn off all phones while spending time with people in my life. I also know this is not necessarily something upon which everyone agrees.

 

No offense meant here but you come off as a apologist and im not sure why because you clearly agree that turning your phone off is courtesy

[AdamSmith]

I used to teach a dance class for students who want to become professionals in the theatre/tv/movies. We did an extensive warm up in bare feet and then took a 2 to 3 minute break to get some water and put on shoes to learn the combination being taught that week. Every single, fucking one of the kids in that class got out his/her phone during that time and I used to get red with rage. But I wanted the class to be a positive, energizing experience so I never said anything. I would just stand in front of the class and wait until the little darlings had finished their obviously very urgent phone tasks. Their parents used to sit in the hallway watching the class through a huge window and were invariably on their phones. I admit to overarching bitchiness but one day when I was particularly frustrated and insulted, I said to a group of dance moms in the hallway, "They say addiction is passed from generation to generation and I think the theory has been proved through your kids. Have you guys considered Phones Anonymous?" Of course they complained about me to management, and of course I was disciplined and then subsequently fired for rudeness - by text message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those ignorant assholes (the students). Blind to the requirement for total concentration and immersion in the flow of what they were supposed to be learning.

 

Lord help us.

[MGTOW_Tx]

Interesting how people consume the literal word, or not.

 

I'm not all-knowing, but I did not take the Op's first post to mean that he actually said that to an escort. The thread seemed like an opportunity to vent, and perhaps enlighten, about a very frustrating phenomenon.

 

Juan is correct when he says, "respect goes both ways." It never hurts to be reminded of that, especially when someone is venting. No novice should come here and assume it's OK to talk to someone like that. Unfortunately, there are probably too many clients who feel that just because they pay for a service, that gives them some entitlement to abuse people.

 

Bad behavior is bad behavior, I don't care how culturally ingrained it is. If you choose to engage in bad behavior, then you also have to accept the consequences.

 

I think you got this all wrong the client is not talking about abuse just respect and i dont think you understand for a client it is not always about money its about opportunity and time available to do such things and that is something most escorts dont have a clue about and this it not a normal job and escorts need to get off the diva line of thinking.

 

I understand you may hire but not all things are created equal...Always people should be respectful to another of course but is it to much to ask for respect? I wonder if your in a lawyers office and he charged $500 an hour then answers his phone during your time and then bills you the same as if he didn't answer you might still get miffed right?

[MGTOW_Tx]

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[sincitymix]

I have had patients answer a phone during a physical examination. On these occasions, I have walked out and gone to see another patient and when done there, I returned. If the patient was still there, we continued. If the patient was gone, it was clear that the phone call was of dire importance.

The issue with phones and texts is everywhere. General courtesy and good manners are quickly becoming the appendix of the body of society.

 

I agree 100000%. Same thing happens in our office. We have signs and tell them not to use or be on cell pones during the exams and screening. They come in, sit down, while staring at the cell phone and texting. I just sit and stare at them, when they finally look up with a "What" attitude, I tell them to stop texting and put the cell phone away, after telling them this, they still pull out the cell phone 3-5 times! People literally can not look away from the screen for more then 5 seconds.

I also Love it when people walk and text at the same time. We have stairs in our office. I see people walking down the stairs while texting. We also have signs posted that tell them to not text while walking down the stairs, and we verbally remind them when we see them. It gets ignored. One patient was doing just that, tripped while missing the step, and stumbled about 4 steps down. She started to complain about how its our fault, and that she was going to sue. I pointed to her cell phone, the signs that were posted around us, and the security camera posted in the stair well. She shut up after that. No law suit.

[MGTOW_Tx]

I agree 100000%. Same thing happens in our office. We have signs and tell them not to use or be on cell pones during the exams and screening. They come in, sit down, while staring at the cell phone and texting. I just sit and stare at them, when they finally look up with a "What" attitude, I tell them to stop texting and put the cell phone away, after telling them this, they still pull out the cell phone 3-5 times! People literally can not look away from the screen for more then 5 seconds.

I also Love it when people walk and text at the same time. We have stairs in our office. I see people walking down the stairs while texting. We also have signs posted that tell them to not text while walking down the stairs, and we verbally remind them when we see them. It gets ignored. One patient was doing just that, tripped while missing the step, and stumbled about 4 steps down. She started to complain about how its our fault, and that she was going to sue. I pointed to her cell phone, the signs that were posted around us, and the security camera posted in the stair well. She shut up after that. No law suit.

 

Perhaps a basket by the door for the cell would be helpful considering people have regressed into five year olds on this issue lol...

[AdamSmith]

People have gone stark staring mad.

 

Woman falls off California's highest bridge while taking selfie

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/us/woman-falls-off-bridge-taking-selfie-trnd/index.html

[MGTOW_Tx]

People have gone stark staring mad.

 

Woman falls off California's highest bridge while taking selfie

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/us/woman-falls-off-bridge-taking-selfie-trnd/index.html

 

 

LOL LOVE IT!!

[sincitymix]

People have gone stark staring mad.

 

Woman falls off California's highest bridge while taking selfie

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/us/woman-falls-off-bridge-taking-selfie-trnd/index.html

Darwinism. Have to love it

 

Sigh. ive said it before. ill say it again. Idiocracy.. Watch the movie.. its our future

[MGTOW_Tx]

Darwinism. Have to love it

 

Sigh. ive said it before. ill say it again. Idiocracy.. Watch the movie.. its our future

 

That movie though funny is more like a freak horror documentary...Jesus except its not going to be in a few hundred years its going on right now.

 

Darwinism...you said it. Smiling from ear to ear!

[down_to_business]

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[Epigonos]

A number of years ago I was eating dinner at Valentino's, a VERY upscale restaurant, on the West Side of Los Angeles. The cell phone of a woman seated at the table next to mine rang, she proceeded to answer it and carry on a conversation in a loud voice. No more than five minutes after she hung up the phone rang again, again she answered it and again she started to carry on a conversation in a loud voice. Before she really got into her conversation a dinner at another table announced in a rather loud, determined voice "lady get off the fucking phone now". I was shocked by his reaction but even more shocked when the entire room broke into applause. My point being is that it doesn't happen just in client/escort situations.

[actor61]

A number of years ago I was eating dinner at Valentino's, a VERY upscale restaurant, on the West Side of Los Angeles. The cell phone of a woman seated at the table next to mine rang, she proceeded to answer it and carry on a conversation in a loud voice. No more than five minutes after she hung up the phone rang again, again she answered it and again she started to carry on a conversation in a loud voice. Before she really got into her conversation a dinner at another table announced in a rather loud, determined voice "lady get off the fucking phone now". I was shocked by his reaction but even more shocked when the entire room broke into applause. My point being is that it doesn't happen just in client/escort situations.

My extremely obnoxious, spoiled, entitled sister-in-law did the same thing in a bookstore once. As she browsed the books, she had a very long, loud, inane phone conversation with one of her equally entitled gal pals (think Kardashians!). The owner of the bookstore finally went to her and said sternly "GET OFF THE PHONE OR LEAVE" and the other customers applauded. Sister-in-law gave the oh so intelligent comeback, "This is a free country. I can talk on my phone if I want to." To which a little boy of about 8 replied, "NO YOU CAN'T, BITCH!!!" I wanted to adopt him. Although, I'd probably have had to wash his mouth out with Dove.

[Chuckball]

I recall dining alone in a Los Angeles restaurant. A group of 6 entered and we're seated at a table near mine. All were in business attire and chatting loudly with each other. The wait staff distributed menus. Immediately all talking ceased and every one of the six bowed his head. Are they saying grace? Then I noticed a glow from a light source below the table on each face. Simultaneously each was checking their cell phones.

[Juan Vancouver]

You don't know me but have felt quite free to make me the villain here as if I somehow brought this rude and disrespectful behavior on myself.

 

Randy, you are correct, I don't know you. I only know that you thought it was okay to write: "Get off your fucking phone, I am paying you hundreds of dollars an hour." in a public venue.

 

Also, I am not five; I don't think there is a villain in every story. In this case, it sounds like an interaction where two people were unable to politely interact with one another. To me this is not an endless pit of blame, but an amazing opportunity to learn so that our future interactions can be healthier.

 

A villain deserves punishment. An adult, who may have made a mistake, can learn and improve his behaviour.

 

I prefer to think of all of us as adults, learning, wanting to be more fulfilled, wanting to get closer to one another.

 

Unlike you, perhaps, when I am faced with this, instead of quietly suffer the rudeness inflicted on me for two hours and later come to a public forum and write what I kept thinking all that time (Get off your fucking phone, I am paying you hundreds of dollars an hour), I find it much more efficient, more humane and more conducive to healthier relationships to breathe, relax, remind myself that this is not a personal affront, make a joke of it, and gently, kindly ask if he could put his phone away. Remind him that I rather spend time with him (her/them) uninterrupted. If the response is positive, I gladly remain and enjoy the interaction. If the response is negative, I politely explain I cannot bear this, and leave.

 

I don't think it is okay to -even think- bitch, get off your phone. I know as a fact that whatever I think, I always clearly express through my behaviour and gestures, whether I verbalize it or not. I also know that if I am comfortable coming to a public forum and write such things, it is very likely that I was thinking precisely that for the whole duration of the interaction. I think it is very possible my escort heard the message loud and clear.

 

This is not to excuse his behaviour or exempt him of his blame. Again, I personally I find his behaviour extremely rude.

 

I realize my view is not the norm; you can notice that many posts on this thread excitedly applauded people being rude to the offenders. We live in the culture of rudeness. This is a fact, but I am here trying to posit that more rudeness will not end rudeness; only kindness and healthy communication will.

 

Bottom line: trying to change another person's behavior is always a fool's errand.

 

I absolutely agree. Trying to change someone's behaviour is impossible.

 

There is; however, another option which is infinitely more efficient: one can -through one own's behaviour- inspire the behaviour of others.

 

Through kindness, politeness, compassion and effective communication one is able to -sometimes- help the other see a different way to behave and possibly inspire them to try out this behaviour.

 

No offense meant here but you come off as a apologist and im not sure why because you clearly agree that turning your phone off is courtesy

 

If you read my second and third post carefully you will see that I am not trying to make an apology for anyone, not even myself. I find this behaviour appalling. I am not minimizing the rudeness of answering one's phone during a human interaction (paid or unpaid) what I wanted to bring light to was what I found equally appalling, which is the language used by the original poster.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right and vice versa.

[Epigonos]

Juan nearly fifty years ago I was fortunate to attend an N.D.E.A. (National Defense Education Act) week long seminar on ways to improve the teaching of Spanish in secondary schools. In attendance was a charming, very bright cloistered nun from a girl’s high school somewhere in the Midwest. Her mother superior had allowed her to leave the cloister to attend because they both believed the seminar would greatly improve her teaching. One evening after classes we were all sitting around expounding on various topics. After I made some point the nun looked at me and smiling stated that at times I sounded so broad minded that my brains appeared to be falling out. After a moment of dead silence we all, including me, burst out laughing – she had nailed me. Sometimes when I read a post of yours this incident comes to mind – I wonder why?

[handiacefailure]

What I really hate is when people text during a show. Probably in 1/3rd of the shows I go to I can see someone texting and it's really annoying. I don't understand why someone spends $100's on a theater ticket and texts during the show or looks at their cell phone everytime their phone vibrates during a show. I wish if someone is seen texting by an usher during act 1 they would throw them out at intermission. I love how Patti Lupone handles people texting and taking pics during her shows:)

[Good Grief]

Randy, you are correct, I don't know you. I only know that you thought it was okay to write: "Get off your fucking phone, I am paying you hundreds of dollars an hour." in a public venue.

 

Also, I am not five; I don't think there is a villain in every story. In this case, it sounds like an interaction where two people were unable to politely interact with one another. To me this is not an endless pit of blame, but an amazing opportunity to learn so that our future interactions can be healthier.

 

A villain deserves punishment. An adult, who may have made a mistake, can learn and improve his behaviour.

 

I prefer to think of all of us as adults, learning, wanting to be more fulfilled, wanting to get closer to one another.

 

Unlike you, perhaps, when I am faced with this, instead of quietly suffer the rudeness inflicted on me for two hours and later come to a public forum and write what I kept thinking all that time (Get off your fucking phone, I am paying you hundreds of dollars an hour), I find it much more efficient, more humane and more conducive to healthier relationships to breathe, relax, remind myself that this is not a personal affront, make a joke of it, and gently, kindly ask if he could put his phone away. Remind him that I rather spend time with him (her/them) uninterrupted. If the response is positive, I gladly remain and enjoy the interaction. If the response is negative, I politely explain I cannot bear this, and leave.

 

I don't think it is okay to -even think- bitch, get off your phone. I know as a fact that whatever I think, I always clearly express through my behaviour and gestures, whether I verbalize it or not. I also know that if I am comfortable coming to a public forum and write such things, it is very likely that I was thinking precisely that for the whole duration of the interaction. I think it is very possible my escort heard the message loud and clear.

 

This is not to excuse his behaviour or exempt him of his blame. Again, I personally I find his behaviour extremely rude.

 

I realize my view is not the norm; you can notice that many posts on this thread excitedly applauded people being rude to the offenders. We live in the culture of rudeness. This is a fact, but I am here trying to posit that more rudeness will not end rudeness; only kindness and healthy communication will.

 

 

 

I absolutely agree. Trying to change someone's behaviour is impossible.

 

There is; however, another option which is infinitely more efficient: one can -through one own's behaviour- inspire the behaviour of others.

 

Through kindness, politeness, compassion and effective communication one is able to -sometimes- help the other see a different way to behave and possibly inspire them to try out this behaviour.

 

 

 

If you read my second and third post carefully you will see that I am not trying to make an apology for anyone, not even myself. I find this behaviour appalling. I am not minimizing the rudeness of answering one's phone during a human interaction (paid or unpaid) what I wanted to bring light to was what I found equally appalling, which is the language used by the original poster.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right and vice versa.

 

 

 

Good Grief.

[sincitymix]

Juan nearly fifty years ago I was fortunate to attend an N.D.E.A. (National Defense Education Act) week long seminar on ways to improve the teaching of Spanish in secondary schools. In attendance was a charming, very bright cloistered nun from a girl’s high school somewhere in the Midwest. Her mother superior had allowed her to leave the cloister to attend because they both believed the seminar would greatly improve her teaching. One evening after classes we were all sitting around expounding on various topics. After I made some point the nun looked at me and smiling stated that at times I sounded so broad minded that my brains appeared to be falling out. After a moment of dead silence we all, including me, burst out laughing – she had nailed me. Sometimes when I read a post of yours this incident comes to mind – I wonder why?

lol

[rvwnsd]

You don't know me but have felt quite free to make me the villain here as if I somehow brought this rude and disrespectful behavior on myself. Apparently it couldn't possibly have been the escort in your mind. So let me give you the scenario. I booked a two hour session. About 10 minutes in I hear the ding of his cell phone. He got up looked at the message, texted something and returned to bed. This happened repeatedly throughout the session, including answering a phone call about an hour in. This was not him mistakenly leaving the phone on. This was not him receiving an emergency call. This was him choosing to be engaged with his friends instead of being with me as a professional. This was him accepting my money and choosing not to spend time with me. This was him making dinner plans with a friend while I waited. I by the way have excellent manners, and chose to say nothing to him now or in the future. I am always completely respectful of others but was shown zero respect in this case. And quite frankly your posting has added insult to injury.

 

Proof that the practice of self-victimization when one's own behavior is called into question is definitely not a generational thing.

[Jock123]

I've had a client Texting/Talking the ENTIRE time we were at Dinner. Literally 20 Minutes of us just meeting...

 

I've had TWO Clients looking at Grindr/Craigslist while I was with them. The second one was In his Early 20's and his words Verbatim "You're leaving Tommorow so I'm gonna keep the momentum going".... The First was Older...I just dont think I was his cup of tea. But he asked me to stay the night even tho we agreed to 3 hours.....? I dont know but It DOES happen to all of us!

 

 

Sidenote: If I were a client you can bet your ass I'd be getting every dollars worth and not on the phone/internet etc.

[Levi Stone]

in my personal opinion the escort should put his phone on vibrate or silent out of respect for his client, likewise the client should do so just as well. I consider myself to be a professional provider. I treat this just as I would any other business. My client is my money and my money is my survival. I have rules and standards that I adhear to, unfortunately this isn't so with all escorts. If this gentleman has taken his time and money to invest in me I think I could pay attention to him for an hour; give 100%, 100% of the time.