Scariest escorting experience....what's yours?

[LADoug1]

I once had a similar experience with a highly reviewed escort. I have absolutely no experience with drugs of any kind, and didn't even know what GHB was. The escort whose reviews were good, was in my suite at the Waldorf in Manhattan and decided to take some with no warning to me. He then became totally incoherent and eventually passed out on the floor of my hotel naked. Hard. I tried waking him up repeatedly with no chance of it. It was awful. I spent two hours researching online whether I needed to call and ambulance or just let him sleep it off. I had business meetings the next day, so I tried to half-sleep while waiting for him to wake up, but at that point I also didn't trust him if I fell asleep. I locked everything I could in the hotel safe and just laid there until he woke up about 4 hours later. When he finally woke up he had no idea where he was, and it took a good 45 minutes to get his bearings. At that point I basically dressed him myself, walked him out, shoved him in a cab and threw money at the cab driver at about 4am.

 

I never heard from the guy again, and didn't contact him.

 

Though my safety was never an issue looking back, it was a really rough and scary night, particularly given that he had years of reviews, was well known, and had given no indication of drug use to me.

 

I've never heard anyone discuss him on the forums in years, but I do still see his rentmen ad pop up occasionally.

 

I would have called 911 despite the embarrassment. What a horrible experience!!!

[+ Keith30309]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

[Tonyko]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

There SHOULD be. (I give you Paul Lynde)

[+ PapaTony]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue

[snogaholic]

I once had a similar experience with a highly reviewed escort. I have absolutely no experience with drugs of any kind, and didn't even know what GHB was. The escort whose reviews were good, was in my suite at the Waldorf in Manhattan and decided to take some with no warning to me. He then became totally incoherent and eventually passed out on the floor of my hotel naked. Hard. I tried waking him up repeatedly with no chance of it. It was awful. I spent two hours researching online whether I needed to call and ambulance or just let him sleep it off. I had business meetings the next day, so I tried to half-sleep while waiting for him to wake up, but at that point I also didn't trust him if I fell asleep. I locked everything I could in the hotel safe and just laid there until he woke up about 4 hours later. When he finally woke up he had no idea where he was, and it took a good 45 minutes to get his bearings. At that point I basically dressed him myself, walked him out, shoved him in a cab and threw money at the cab driver at about 4am.

 

I never heard from the guy again, and didn't contact him.

 

Though my safety was never an issue looking back, it was a really rough and scary night, particularly given that he had years of reviews, was well known, and had given no indication of drug use to me.

 

I've never heard anyone discuss him on the forums in years, but I do still see his rentmen ad pop up occasionally.

Hey Dave -- PM me if I can - wonder if it's the same guy I was with on Monday evening ... ?? :-)

[caliguy]

I once had a similar experience with a highly reviewed escort. I have absolutely no experience with drugs of any kind, and didn't even know what GHB was. The escort whose reviews were good, was in my suite at the Waldorf in Manhattan and decided to take some with no warning to me. He then became totally incoherent and eventually passed out on the floor of my hotel naked. Hard. I tried waking him up repeatedly with no chance of it. It was awful. I spent two hours researching online whether I needed to call and ambulance or just let him sleep it off. I had business meetings the next day, so I tried to half-sleep while waiting for him to wake up, but at that point I also didn't trust him if I fell asleep. I locked everything I could in the hotel safe and just laid there until he woke up about 4 hours later. When he finally woke up he had no idea where he was, and it took a good 45 minutes to get his bearings. At that point I basically dressed him myself, walked him out, shoved him in a cab and threw money at the cab driver at about 4am.

 

I never heard from the guy again, and didn't contact him.

 

Though my safety was never an issue looking back, it was a really rough and scary night, particularly given that he had years of reviews, was well known, and had given no indication of drug use to me.

 

I've never heard anyone discuss him on the forums in years, but I do still see his rentmen ad pop up occasionally.

I had a couple I knew that hired this kid. Well, exact same circumstances. Did the GHB and out like a lamp. Well, they tried everything they could to revive him. They were scared out of their minds he was going to die. Put him in a cold shower to no avail to finally calling an ambulance. Definitely embarrassed having to explain the circumstances. The cherry on top of it all was when the he finally was brought to his most immediate concern was getting paid.

 

Used to be big in the late 90s-2000's. EMT's at every gay event just for GHB overdoses. Almost every event some guy was being carried out in a stretcher from overdosing. Clubs and Circuit parties started posting signs not to bring GHB into their premises. Some actually did die and that's just bad for business. So yeah, being concerned as you were was just good common sense.

[Tonyko]

OMG I'm reading everything you guys are saying about GHB (I'm tots naive when it comes to drugs) but now I'm certain it's what a hustler took when I was with him years ago, met at The Townhouse an older dude used to take me to listen to the guy at the piano in the back room play showtunes (a snooooooooor to me THEN, now of course I like it ) and I hooked up with this little guy my age in the front who was "working" and we dicided to head down to Splash and down there he stopped and bought a beer at a bodega asked me if I partied I said no (I assumed he meant Ecstasy sic?) and he was drinking it as we walked up to Splash and BAM he went down right in front of Splash like a ton of bricks. I didn't know WTF happened it was so quick! The door guys were like telling me call an ambulance for my friend I didn't even KNOW the dude! He was just face down on the sidewalk. Finally they called an ambulance which came and took him. Always felt bad I didn't just hop in with him it was a split second in-or-out decision and in retrospect the wrong one from my more mature self. Think I was scared. (WHY can't these dudes just have two Grey Goose dirty martys like I do which puts me on my ass)

[+ goosh69]

GHB is super bad. Anyone who claims that you just need to does it correctly is LYING. Everyone eventually "doses it wrong." I real life (not Facebook) de friended many people back in my circuit days because they insisted on doing it despite so many of us (me included) passing out in public despite "carefully dosing."

[LADoug1]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

 

Good question.

[LivingnLA]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

 

What you're talking about is called Duty to Act in legal parlance. The USA generally doesn't have such laws. A handful of states do though, so it will depend on where you are when a situation occurs to determine if you have a legal Duty to Act.

 

http://inpublicsafety.com/2014/03/duty-to-act-legal-obligations-vs-community-expectations/

https://www.montlick.com/montlick-blog/personal-injury/798-no-duty-to-render-aid-to-injured-or-ill-patron-in-georgia-lodging-establishment

 

For me personally, every human being has civil, ethical, and moral responsibilities to act when they see another human being in distress. Failure to act means they are immoral and unethical in my world view.

[Arbimuscle]

My experience with Ghb, limited, but I can tell you from personal experience. That the effects have as much to do with your food intake and hydration levels, as much as it does with the dosage. I was out with a friend two nights in a row, first night had a blast doing GHB. Second night did same dosage and got sicker than a dog. Thought I was going to pass out. Never again

[Rudynate]

I hired an escort from a fetish web site who had no reviews. Everything went OK, but he was pretty quirky, enough so that I didn't feel comfortable around him.

[+ purplekow]

Question: Is there a legal obligation of a person to come to the aid of another person who may be at mortal risk, or at least summon aid? There's obviously a moral obligation but I've always wondered about the legal part.

If I have a heart attack in my hotel room while with a companion (or a circumstance as described above) and the other person simply walks away without calling 911 or attempting to render aid is there some legal ramification to that?

There are circumstances in which a person may be charged with negligent homicide or negligent manslaughter if there is a crime being committed and a death results from the act. So, if one supplied the drugs there may be legal complications as an example.

[+ OliverSaks]

What you're talking about is called Duty to Act in legal parlance. The USA generally doesn't have such laws. A handful of states do though, so it will depend on where you are when a situation occurs to determine if you have a legal Duty to Act.

 

http://inpublicsafety.com/2014/03/duty-to-act-legal-obligations-vs-community-expectations/

https://www.montlick.com/montlick-blog/personal-injury/798-no-duty-to-render-aid-to-injured-or-ill-patron-in-georgia-lodging-establishment

 

For me personally, every human being has civil, ethical, and moral responsibilities to act when they see another human being in distress. Failure to act means they are immoral and unethical in my world view.

 

The first few minutes of this TED talk are something to consider, in response to your last line about "failure to act."

If you have the time to watch the entire thing, I would highly recommend it.

 

[caliguy]

Well, if you're someone like Ian Reisner you make sure you properly dispose of the drugs before calling EMT's and only after the kid is dead in your bathtub. Too much Cocaine and Ecstasy in this case.

 

He's the gay republican hotel guy who likes to host fundraising cocktail parties for shitheads like Ted Cruise while make money off the Gay community.

[LivingnLA]

The first few minutes of this TED talk are something to consider, in response to your last line about "failure to act."

If you have the time to watch the entire thing, I would highly recommend it.

 

 

Thanks. I'm familiar with Singer and his TED talk. The psychology of altruism is quite complicated and many of his points are well worth some deep thought and how we all live and act in our daily lives.

 

Our family spends more on many things because we try to only do business with relatively responsible companies. We also donate considerable amounts of our money and time to worthy charities. Are we perfect? Nope, but I know that we do what we can to be effective altruists. I stand by my previous statement that someone who stands idly by while another human being is suffering right in front of them is making an immoral and/or unethical choice.

[+ OliverSaks]

I stand by my previous statement that someone who stands idly by while another human being is suffering right in front of them is making an immoral and/or unethical choice.

 

I was just pointing out how there is really little moral difference whether we see a person suffering or not and the connection to our actions.

 

You're statement is totally valid, and most people would agree. I wasn't saying that it was wrong or that you shouldn't stand by it - it just doesn't go far enough, and I'm glad you're on board with that idea too.

[LivingnLA]

I was just pointing out how there is really little moral difference whether we see a person suffering or not and the connection to our actions.

 

You're statement is totally valid, and most people would agree. I wasn't saying that it was wrong or that you shouldn't stand by it - it just doesn't go far enough, and I'm glad you're on board with that idea too.

 

Agreed. Far too many Americans think donating some money or old stuff obviates their civic, ethical and moral responsibilities. They blindly walk by homeless people. They shop at stores that underpay employees, exploit local communities, and overpay executives. We have to recognize our own complicity in our grossly unequal society and the damages we do to the environment, and more. Only time will tell if we're learning from history or doomed to repeat it.

[tbinsocal]

I got slipped something at the Frat House in Garden Grove. I foolishly left the bar with Latina transvestite to service her in my car.

 

Three friends of hers followed us out and they tried to jump me. It was the first and hopefully the last time I had to point my Ruger LCP at a prostitute.

 

I could easily been in prison for life, all because I wanted to swallow a load.

[snogaholic]

you keep a Ruger LCP with you at the ready? gosh .....

[tbinsocal]

you keep a Ruger LCP with you at the ready? gosh .....

 

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[jawjateck]

I had to point my Ruger LCP

 

Nice piece! Efficient and handy!

[+ azdr0710]

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

 

gotta remember that one!

[Fyton]

Mmmmmmm not sure why you felt it important to mention his race twice when I see no relevance.

I find black men particularly attractive. My weakness, perhaps. It is significant to me.

[LookingAround]

I find black men particularly attractive. My weakness, perhaps. It is significant to me.

Apparently. You mentioned it twice.