What would you change about Daddy's Reviews?

[jjkrkwood]

I have purposely strayed away from posting lately due to some of the recent threads and the divergent tones they have taken on between some. However, Mike I too do not feel there is anything you should apologize for. Your question was pretty straight forward.

 

So my two cents is I agree with an earlier poster that anyone should be able to post any question without being handed their butt on a silver platter for asking since it may or may not have been discussed in a different thread many moons ago, as the poster said there is no stupid question.

 

Now that I've interjected my two cents I'll be on the lookout for the silver platter heading my way.

 

[TruHart1]

I'm sorry for posting an insensitive thread topic. I didn't realize the implications of my original question, and I am sorry for disrespecting the community. I apologize to those I offended. I hope this thread gets deleted ASAP.

 

It's time for me to exit pursued by a bear.

I'll be happy to start running after you anytime, Mike!!! Your intentions were completely honorable and therefore not insensitive, you gorgeous man!!! Besides, from all your reviews (and your sizzling videos) we are completely aware that you are, indeed, PERFECT! ;)

 

TruHart1

[BaronArtz]

I am not sure it has been discussed before, but here you go: it baffles me why the owner(s) of this website didn't start up or acquire a male escort website. That could have made them a lot more money than this website in its current incarnation. You already have a solid database of escorts AND clients. The occasional pleas for financial support suggest that the current business may not be doing so well. Why not turn it into a real business that will make some real money?

[mike carey]

I am not sure it has been discussed before, but here you go: it baffles me why the owner(s) of this website didn't start up or acquire a male escort website. That could have made them a lot more money than this website in its current incarnation. You already have a solid database of escorts AND clients. Why not turn it into a real business that will make some real money?

To me there is a fundamental difference between talking about male companions and actually facilitating transactions with them. Paid advertising is a quantum leap from the informal chatting we do here. Moving from the current model to a full-on male escort site is a huge change of focus. Not every small business wants to become a global conglomerate. In my view changing the focus to an escort sales site would not grow this site, it would destroy it.

[BaronArtz]

To me there is a fundamental difference between talking about male companions and actually facilitating transactions with them. Paid advertising is a quantum leap from the informal chatting we do here. Moving from the current model to a full-on male escort site is a huge change of focus. Not every small business wants to become a global conglomerate. In my view changing the focus to an escort sales site would not grow this site, it would destroy it.

 

I think there would be real market for 'vetted' escorts so to speak ... It would enhance the credibility of the escort website. And it doesn't need to be the same site, it can be an affiliate.

[+ quoththeraven]

I think there would be real market for 'vetted' escorts so to speak ... It would enhance the credibility of the escort website. And it doesn't need to be the same site, it can be an affiliate.

 

Do the words "Rentboy prosecution" not mean anything to you? I know you never liked Rentboy or Jeffrey Hurant, but he's facing charges worth up to 20 years in jail for doing something along the lines you suggest without the vetting. With the vetting, it would look even more and more like something that would raise a host of legal problems.

 

The way the site is currently run should keep it on the right side of the remaining parts of the CDCA (I think that's the right acronym) and the First Amendment. Your suggestion, not so much. It would also destroy any sense that the reviews are honest and disinterested, which is why reviews at sites affiliated with sites for locating escorts are of limited utility.

 

Also, given your well-known disdain for Rentboy and Hurant and fundraising efforts on their behalf, I assume you'd be nowhere to be found if the site owner got himself in trouble following your suggestion. But my sense is that he is savvy enough to know better anyway.

 

If the site owner prefers the current informal Patreon-style fundraising system, that's his call.

 

ETA: I also doubt there's enough time in the day to run this site and the kind of site you describe.

[AdamSmith]

It would also destroy any sense that the reviews are honest and disinterested, which is why reviews at sites affiliated with sites for locating escorts are of limited utility.

[BaronArtz]

Do the words "Rentboy prosecution" not mean anything to you? .

 

No, those words mean absolutely nothing to me. You don't need to be so 'catty' about it, that is just not a good look.

 

If anything, the rentboy debacle is a learning experience for others - now it is very apparent what you need to do to avoid having problems with the law. Rentmen.com seems to be doing extremely well, by the way. So it IS certainly possible.

 

QTR - your view is entirely myopic. But if somebody wants to be the bohemian artist type and not care about making money, so be it. Just don't bug me for donations then.

[YoungAD]

I am not sure it has been discussed before, but here you go: it baffles me why the owner(s) of this website didn't start up or acquire a male escort website. That could have made them a lot more money than this website in its current incarnation. You already have a solid database of escorts AND clients. The occasional pleas for financial support suggest that the current business may not be doing so well. Why not turn it into a real business that will make some real money?

 

It baffles me as to why you do not simply start a thread and ask Daddy yourself. I imagine it would lead to an interesting discussion with him.

[+ quoththeraven]

No, those words mean absolutely nothing to me. You don't need to be so 'catty' about it, that is just not a good look.

 

If anything, the rentboy debacle is a learning experience for others - now it is very apparent what you need to do to avoid having problems with the law. Rentmen.com seems to be doing extremely well, by the way. So it IS certainly possible.

 

QTR - your view is entirely myopic. But if somebody wants to be the bohemian artist type and not care about making money, so be it. Just don't bug me for donations then.

 

If you think what I wrote is "catty" rather than pointed, you have a thin skin. And yes, I can hear the dog-whistle in that term, to mix metaphors. That dog won't hunt.

 

With Rentmen.com a success by your account, there seems little need for what you suggest anyway.

 

As for donations: if you're so offended by being asked to chip in, you don't have to hang around here and be offended. No one is requiring you to do anything or checking up on you. As for bohemian artist types and not caring about making money, I don't know if that's an accurate description of the site owner, whom I've never met or spoken to, but plenty of web comics, YouTube channels, blogs and the like are sustained through Patreon. This site operates on informal crowdfunding that functions similarly to Patreon.

[+ quoththeraven]

It baffles me as to why you do not simply start a thread and ask Daddy yourself. I imagine it would lead to an interesting discussion with him.

 

What is needed is a private email, not another thread.

[jjkrkwood]

Do the words "Rentboy prosecution" not mean anything to you? I know you never liked Rentboy or Jeffrey Hurant, but he's facing charges worth up to 20 years in jail for doing something along the lines you suggest without the vetting. With the vetting, it would look even more and more like something that would raise a host of legal problems.

 

The way the site is currently run should keep it on the right side of the remaining parts of the CDCA (I think that's the right acronym) and the First Amendment. Your suggestion, not so much. It would also destroy any sense that the reviews are honest and disinterested, which is why reviews at sites affiliated with sites for locating escorts are of limited utility.

 

Also, given your well-known disdain for Rentboy and Hurant and fundraising efforts on their behalf, I assume you'd be nowhere to be found if the site owner got himself in trouble following your suggestion. But my sense is that he is savvy enough to know better anyway.

 

If the site owner prefers the current informal Patreon-style fundraising system, that's his call.

 

ETA: I also doubt there's enough time in the day to run this site and the kind of site you describe.

 

 

Vetting, Schmetting...... Forget the vetting and just focus on some PETTING......

 

[+ Truereview]

Vetting, Schmetting...... Forget the vetting and just focus on some PETTING......

 

Less brain, more cock? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[LADoug1]

Mr. Gaite: I appreciate your post and am somewhat surprised it became so controversial. Just because you ask how something can be IMPROVED doesn't mean you don't like the way it is.

 

I for one find the opinions and experiences of the older gay men on this site informative and affirming. Younger members can learn much from them. Bravo.

 

And, yes, I think since Daddy is currently asking for donations members should consider a contribution small or large.

[jjkrkwood]

Less brain, more cock? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

 

LOL TR, there's something profound to say for CONSISTENCY !

[tyro]

Ask and ye shall receive, indeed.

I am now, was in the beginning, and ever shall be a saucy pedant. (Well, maybe not as a very young child, but anyway...)

Here I can be me, and other members can be themselves too.

The Baron will pick at the Raven. JJK won't go away (for which I am grateful, BTW.) Juan will write us his bi-weekly tomes to thrill and enlighten us in our homes. That's just how we roll 'round these parts.

Thank you always, my beautiful men and women.

And now, a return to pedantry...

T

[+ José Soplanucas]

What about a membership fee?

[mike carey]

QTR - your view is entirely myopic. But if somebody wants to be the bohemian artist type and not care about making money, so be it. Just don't bug me for donations then.

No, QTR hit the nail on the head, you seem to want the management here to set up as a potential target for the Government in the way that Rentboy was. That is not what this site is trying to do. This site is what it is whether you like it or not. It is not a more broadly defined escort site and I doubt any of its regular users want it to become one.

I am now, was in the beginning, and ever shall be a saucy pedant.

Congrats, Tyro, on your new status!

[Kevin Slater]

It would also destroy any sense that the reviews are honest and disinterested, which is why reviews at sites affiliated with sites for locating escorts are of limited utility.

 

Yup. There's a reason Consumer Reports doesn't accept advertising.

 

Kevin Slater

[Paddy]

But it says pendant

 

[AdamSmith]

But it says pendant

 

[+ Charlie]

Some of the escort rental sites have their own "reviews" sections. Who here takes them seriously? There are enough suspicions voiced here about management showing favoritism toward certain escorts--imagine what it would be like if the escorts were also paying customers for the site!

 

Daddy's site is really two separate pieces, as it was when Hooboy started it: a reviews site, which is supported by advertising, and the Message Board, which is a free discussion site. Many visitors to one side rarely or never view the other. Daddy could shut down the MB completely without shutting down the reviews, and if the reviews side fails financially, the whole thing disappears. I don't know how much of the financial support comes out of Daddy's own pocket, but I remember that Hooboy frequently had to ask the posters for financial help to keep it going. I thought Mike Gaite's question about how we thought it could be improved was perfectly reasonable, but I think it is churlish to complain about the owner asking for donations from people who use it for free; after all, it is not supported by our tax dollars or foundation grants (though I wouldn't object to that use of those funds).

[+ nycman]

I'd make it so when you ignore someone you can see that they posted

in the thread but not see what they wrote. The only problem with the

"ignore" feature (which I LOVE) is that sometimes it makes threads

looks like everyone is getting psychotically upset over nothing at all.

 

Which, truth be told is is most likely true even if you can see all the replies....lmao.

[jjkrkwood]

What about a membership fee?

 

 

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[+ ArVaGuy]

What about a membership fee?

 

That's been tried over at Male Escort Review which morphed into, ...ahem, Boytoy. I'm not sure if its successful in that area or not. I don't visit that site.