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Charlie Grand Master

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One is reminded of Sir Winston's response to chiding about use of the phrase "put up with" which he corrected by saying "that is something with which I shall not put."

I believe the response was actually "that is something up with which I shall not put."

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jackjackjack Collaborator

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...who was eating WHOM....:rolleyes:

 

 

And yes, I think our candidate for the next grammar discussion on here has just stepped up. :p:D

 

Gman

hey, like you saying like I might, you know, like, need some kinda grammer schoolin, like with words and stuff. bring it on. my dad can beat up your dad. :)

Funguy Grand Master

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I believe the response was actually "that is something up with which I shall not put."

Yes, you are correct. Otherwise there would be a dangling something or other.

Gar1eth Grand Master

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OTOH "who was eating who" sounds better. :eek:

 

I will admit that in certain cases 'who' sounds better. But not in in this case-at least not to me.

 

Do we ever see a directory titled Who's Whom? :p

 

 

That's different. 'Was Eating' is the past progressive tense -the imperfect if you will-of the transitive verb 'eat'. It takes a direct object. The objective case of the pronoun WHO is WHOM.

 

Whereas your proposed dictionary title- the verb IS is a linking verb (aka copulative verb-just gotta love those copulatives, dontcha?:p). Copulative verbs :rolleyes: use the subject-I might even be so bold as to say the nominative-case in the predicate nominative position, (also called the linking verb complement). The nominative case of the pronoun 'WHO' is 'WHO'. WHOM would be totally incorrect in this instance.

 

To diagram

 

Who's Whom or more correctly Who's Who =

 

WHO (Subject in Nominative Case)

 

 

IS (Copulative Verb aka Linking Verb)

 

 

WHO? (Predicate Nominative aka Linking Verb Complement in the Nominative Case)

 

Gman retires exhaustedly from the lectern to thunderous applause after his concise, yet still enthralling, grammar discussion. :D

 

Exeunt

 

Gman

AdamSmith Grand Master

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I will admit that in certain cases 'who' sounds better. But not in in this case-at least not to me.

 

 

 

 

That's different. 'Was Eating' is the past progressive tense -the imperfect if you will-of the transitive verb 'eat'. It takes a direct object. The objective case of the pronoun WHO is WHOM.

 

Whereas your proposed dictionary title- the verb IS is a linking verb (aka copulative verb-just gotta love those copulatives, dontcha?:p). Copulative verbs :rolleyes: use the subject-I might even be so bold as to say the nominative-case in the predicate nominative position, (also called the linking verb complement). The nominative case of the pronoun 'WHO' is 'WHO'. WHOM would be totally incorrect in this instance.

 

To diagram

 

Who's Whom or more correctly Who's Who =

 

WHO (Subject in Nominative Case)

 

 

IS (Copulative Verb aka Linking Verb)

 

 

WHO? (Predicate Nominative aka Linking Verb Complement in the Nominative Case)

 

Gman retires exhaustedly from the lectern to thunderous applause after his concise, yet still enthralling, grammar discussion. :D

 

Exeunt

 

Gman

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whipped guy Grand Master

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While you guys are in grammar mode...

 

He did it like I. vs. He did it like me.

 

It is I. vs. It is me.

 

If it were I. vs. If it was me.

 

Discuss! And do use the words predicate and nominative as often as possible! Thanks! Oh! And copulative as well!!!!

jackjackjack Collaborator

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I will admit that in certain cases 'who' sounds better. But not in in this case-at least not to me.

 

 

 

 

That's different. 'Was Eating' is the past progressive tense -the imperfect if you will-of the transitive verb 'eat'. It takes a direct object. The objective case of the pronoun WHO is WHOM.

 

Whereas your proposed dictionary title- the verb IS is a linking verb (aka copulative verb-just gotta love those copulatives, dontcha?:p). Copulative verbs :rolleyes: use the subject-I might even be so bold as to say the nominative-case in the predicate nominative position, (also called the linking verb complement). The nominative case of the pronoun 'WHO' is 'WHO'. WHOM would be totally incorrect in this instance.

 

To diagram

 

Who's Whom or more correctly Who's Who =

 

WHO (Subject in Nominative Case)

 

 

IS (Copulative Verb aka Linking Verb)

 

 

WHO? (Predicate Nominative aka Linking Verb Complement in the Nominative Case)

 

Gman retires exhaustedly from the lectern to thunderous applause after his concise, yet still enthralling, grammar discussion. :D

 

Exeunt

 

Gman

Oh shit!!! I would have so failed your English class..... except maybe way back when in my youth (yes, I was a hottie then), I've could have earned extra credit :)

I know the grammatical structure of my sentences are terrible but like I said, I still write like I did when I was in 2nd grade....haven't progressed past that point

Gar1eth Grand Master

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While you guys are in grammar mode...

 

He did it like I. vs. He did it like me.

 

It is I. vs. It is me.

 

If it were I. vs. If it was me.

 

Discuss! And do use the words predicate and nominative as often as possible! Thanks! Oh! And copulative as well!!!!

 

I want to. But it will have to wait. I'm still exhausted from my previous post.

 

Gman

Gar1eth Grand Master

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Can't wait! Plus while you are at it how bout...

 

Me too. vs. I as well.

Still flaccid, I mean exhausted, from my earlier efforts. Grammar instruction is really draining. ;)

 

Gman

rvwnsd Grand Master

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The honey badger video apparently doesn't translate well to text.

 

What video?

 

Gman

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, Your Fluffiness, but the video you are referring to is "Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit."

 

quoththeraven Grand Master

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Oh, QTR, you always know what to say!!

 

If people keep handing me setup lines, I'll keep knocking 'em out of the park. Like a poor friend of mine who asked me what his initials -- which happen to be DS -- stand for, and I told him "dipshit." He invited that one.

rvwnsd Grand Master

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If people keep handing me setup lines, I'll keep knocking 'em out of the park. Like a poor friend of mine who asked me what his initials -- which happen to be DS -- stand for, and I told him "dipshit." He invited that one.

Invited? I think he flagged you down and begged you to say something.

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