Preference when meeting at hotel- meet in lobby or at door?

[Juan Vancouver]

I will however say recently in Philadelphia there has been someone contacting escorts and having them go to hotels, giving room numbers to rooms that aren't theirs and never hearing from them again.....its happen to me and one other escort that I know of.....so their are still risks in even knocking on the door. I now text and tell them I am at the door, if it is a new client, which has worked well.

 

I am so sorry to read you went through this shit. Yes, texting at the door might be better than knocking, but if he is pulling your leg you already wasted a couple hours, and if you only see one client a day, you wasted your day.

 

If I were you I would try out asking to call to the client's room to confirm. If you call through the hotel's number to the room, at least you know he is in there. You could still be very unlucky and encounter someone who is peeking through the peephole and won't open the door, but your chances are considerably better.

[josh282282]

Dear Juan,

 

You seem to be advocating advice with a set of contradictory rules: rules that serves you and different rules that apply to all the other escorts.

 

I have repeatedly urged clients to -before anything else- focus on their safety

Excellent. I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, our agreement ends there.

 

You admit that reviews are not foolproof:

Consistently positive reviews will not ensure you will have a hot, fantastic time but will exponentially better your chances that you will meet someone who is a professional and won't put you at physical risk.

 

But you want us as clients to trust you. No hesitations on our part:

If you do not realize the hard work that building such a reputation entails, if you don't value the calming assurance it brings, if you don't think that I have earned your trust and your respect,

 

Juan, no, I don't know you. I've never met you. Never spoken to you. How in the world do you expect me and other prospective clients to TRUST you before we have ever met you, simply cuz you say we should you? For you, a client must allow you to come directly to the hotel room, even for you to be allowed to call a clients hotel room before the scheduled meeting. You demand our name for us to hire you. You are asking of me too much.

 

You seem to be urging prospective clients to put safety first AND YET IN EXCEPTION put all their trust in you, sight unseen. This is incongruent.

 

I think we will simply have to agree to disagree here.

 

Fyi: I decided months before this post from reading you write about your meeting requirements that you and I wouldn't ever meet. Not because you don't seem hot and an excellent escort, but because I simply won't give out my real name to you & allow you to meet me at my hotel room (I only meet escorts in the lobby first and never give my real name). In this website you have been clear on your meeting requirements. Now I have, too. I doubt I am alone here. Just read some of the other comments on this post. Nevertheless, I wish you nothing but professional success. I really mean that. I'm not just saying that to soften the impact of my critique.

 

TO ALL PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS:

 

If you wish to remain anonymous, if you wish to keep your name safe from your escort, DON'T give him anything to look you up with.

Wait, you don't think your escort is looking you up online? Try again because yes, they are. They have discussed it here on Daddys forum:

Don't believe me? Here's just one example:

Anyone who contacts me undergoes the background check, social media search, etc to ensure you're not a crazy whack job

 

And K Wolfe is one of the excellent escorts. Can you imagine what a shady one is doing with your personal online info?

 

We live in a dangerous world. Tragically, there are people out there who will out you as a client, sue you, rob you, assault you or even worse.

Don't believe me? Here is a link to an escort who was hired and then outed the client (who was married to a woman with kids) and is now suing the client:

http://nypost.com/2015/11/11/escort-files-suit-against-conde-nast-after-gawker-story/

 

Here is a link to a news story of an escort who is charged with murdering his client:

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/news&id=363401011

 

And these were simple to find examples. There are too many others out there.

 

USE THE SAME PROTOCOL WITH ALL ESCORTS

DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR REAL NAME.

DO NOT MEET YOUR ESCORT AT YOUR HOTEL ROOM-MEET HIM AT THE LOBBY.

DO NOT GIVE HIM YOUR HOTEL ROOM TO CALL YOU.

ALWAYS BE 100% SAFE.

 

Yes, a vast majority of escorts are wonderful, kind, professional, patient, and true (I know many who are). But if you have no idea what the escort will become or do with YOUR personal information 5 yrs from now. If you have even the slightest need to remain confidential due to work, community status, a relationship etc, give the escort nothing to harm you with. And certainly protect yourself from potential assault by meeting in the lobby first.

 

Love and safety to all.

[Juan Vancouver]

Juan, no, I don't know you. I've never met you. Never spoken to you. How in the world do you expect me and other prospective clients to TRUST you before we have ever met you, simply cuz you say we should you?

 

Josh, you may have misunderstood me. Let me try again. I do not expect you to trust me. If you don't, you won't. If ten years of loving, professional service as my reviews can attest don't instil trust and confidence, then they don't. That is alright. To some, my reviews, my image and my professional behaviour on the phone will instil that trust and respect. I am not saying all clients will feel the same, I am not saying many will, I am saying some might. If I am lucky enough to get in touch with some of those who might, men who will not meet me with fear, men who won't expect me to endanger myself to appease them, men who will feel rightfully certain that they will be safe with me, then I will be a happy, happy boy.

 

My advise is not contradictory. Be safe. As safe as you can. Vet your escorts and don't meet anyone dodgy. In my case, I will only meet any prospective client after I am offered the necessary and reciprocal safeguards that show me my prospective client respects me, values me and knows he is treating with a professional.

 

And you may have missed an important detail. I don't care about your name. Don't have any use for that. I am only interested in making sure I can call the room to confirm you are there. In some hotels I might only need to know the name under which the room is registered.

 

This will not work for many. Many are having the conniptions reading this, but a few men read this and feel this is right for them, feel that we see eye to eye on this respect. It is a pity I won't be able to meet you, but I wish you will meet men who are a perfect match to the way you see life.

 

Yes, a vast majority of escorts are wonderful, kind, professional, patient, and true .

 

I would not generalize. I think a vast majority are just guys who are trying to make a living. Some are wonderful, some are not. Word travels fast. It is in your best interest to find the ones who are.

 

Love and safety, indeed!

[jgoo]

You are correct. Perhaps 80% of hotels will ask for the last name under which the room is registered.

 

I couldn't care less about your last name or any other private information. I have absolutely no use for that. If you want to register as Marilyn Monroe, as long as I can call the hotel room and make sure you are in the room you said you are, I am good to go. This is about safety, not about having leverage for blackmail.

 

I have been escorting ten years and maybe 1 out of every 30 prospective clients have declined providing this necessary information. Some might have been reticent at first, but a simple, polite, professional explanation on the phone made them understand how this is important for my basic safety. To this day, nobody, not even people of high notoriety who have hired me, have regretted sharing their information with me. Strangely enough, it is the hugely famous ones who volunteered the information easily.

 

A professional escort is like a reverse savant for names and private information; we have an incredible talent to forget we ever saw you, forget we know your name, forget you might be famous, forget everything about you... Of course you are John! We won't talk or think about you until the next time we see you, remember what floats your boat, remember what feels good, remember who you are when curtains are closed and clothes shed.

 

I am not suggesting you to disclose all your information to all escorts. I can't speak on behalf of anybody else. If you want to meet me, however, since I have worked so hard to make sure that I have a sustained reputation for safety and professionalism, I will only meet you at your hotel if I can call you to your room to confirm you are there.

 

Juan, Thank you for taking the time and effort to answer my question. I truly appreciate it and I hope you don't mind me exploring this a bit further with you. No intention to be argumentative but just want to explore it and understand better from your point of view.

 

You mention that the purpose is about safety to get the name and to verify occupancy of the room. When you say safety I immediately think of physical safety but I am not all that clear how it is assured by the method you use. Perhaps you also mean safety from law entrapment but again that isn't assured by the method (and as it is legal in Canada it doesn't seem to apply anyway). It seems, from the way I would interpret it, to be mostly safety in regards of losing time (and money) from a non-existent person at the hotel. I just don't usually think of safety in those terms but perhaps you do so I am just looking for better understanding.

 

And if it does relate to the no-show, would you also consider a down payment or full payment sent in advance rather than divulging details by the client? Although not very popular among most clients, it can from what I know be done anonymously so it would solve the other side's concerns and help address some of your concerns as well. As you say, you have built up a solid reputation so that perhaps it is something that could be offered as an alternative.

[keithhardy]

Not to speak for someone else but I do think many of us escorts choose to communicate, meet etc based on our many past experiences. While the vast majority of clients are professional and sincere there are many that are not and see this as a game. I could write a book in my 11 year career on what I call the "games" some play. For example, its pretty embarrassing to show up at a hotel room in full leather, because thats what the client requested and I always do my very best to make my clients happy, only to have some middle aged woman answer the door......you can use your imagination to figure out how that went I keep hearing chatter about charging a deposit, I am not sure I would be willing to give some stranger money before I even know who they are if I wasn't willing to give my first name. I have never asked for a deposit, maybe its something I should do to prevent wasting my time, which trust me I have often, but I wouldn't ask anyone to do something I wasn't comfortable doing, and I couldn't see myself giving money to a complete stranger. As for reviews, they are about the only thing we can provide to new clients for them to complete, somewhat, a full picture of who we are. If an escort has multiple reviews that paint a picture of trust, I am not sure why he wouldn't be trusted, now with that being said us escorts have no way at all to paint a complete picture of who is meeting us. We are all humans, we won't all get along or agree, but respecting each other is what is most important. I know for me I would never do to someone what I wouldn't want done to me.....its not a perfect world and unfortunately that isn't always the case, so we at times do each need to keep our guard up based on whats important to protecting us as individuals.

[ny2222]

Can you imagine what Donald Trump is doing with your personal information? Better yet, Google or the NSA? Because all the background check info I perform is done on publicly accessible sources. But seriously, if you're that paranoid about your information being out there on the big bad Internet. Disconnect from the world. No bank accounts, no cell phone, no job, etc etc etc.

Kurtis you definitely are correct on the “there is no privacy anymore” and it can be scary how much the Government and Corporations have access and collect. Hell you have to assume pretty much anything you do outside your home will be on video and make the internet. But there is a difference. With the above there is definitely safety and anonymity in numbers. Being one of 50 million+ offers some degree of protection. And we do things to protect ourselves, the most obvious is not doing things that get you “noticed”. It isn’t quite the same with an escort when they have your name and do a google search. Now there is no anonymity and if things go wrong, well, they could go really wrong. And as Josh pointed out it definitely can go wrong. And for some clients that could be devastating.

 

Dear Juan,

USE THE SAME PROTOCOL WITH ALL ESCORTS

DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR REAL NAME.

DO NOT MEET YOUR ESCORT AT YOUR HOTEL ROOM-MEET HIM AT THE LOBBY.

DO NOT GIVE HIM YOUR HOTEL ROOM TO CALL YOU.

ALWAYS BE 100% SAFE.

 

Yes, a vast majority of escorts are wonderful, kind, professional, patient, and true (I know many who are). But if you have no idea what the escort will become or do with YOUR personal information 5 yrs from now. If you have even the slightest need to remain confidential due to work, community status, a relationship etc, give the escort nothing to harm you with. And certainly protect yourself from potential assault by meeting in the lobby first.

 

Love and safety to all.

 

The escorts have developed a system that makes business sense (based probably on a lot of experience good and bad) and they stick with it, and clients should accept that. On the other side again as Josh pointed out the clients need to do the same. If that limits potential interactions that’s ok on both sides and no hard feelings. It is I think, about both sides being comfortable with the interaction and comfortable with the risks.

[MikeBiDude]

I've often stayed at hotels that require a pass/key to the elevator. I request my guest text me a few minutes ahead or on arrival, I go down to lobby, we shake hands, and go back up. Never had an guest refuse this request.

 

For those that feel uncomfortable, worried they don't know who they are looking for (first time?) etc., remember hotel lobbies are FULL of encounters like this every day! And no, I don't mean escort/client, but business meets, social, etc. I just put on my most confident business demeanor, and go find my guest. (And hope they have dressed appropriately for the hotel I'm at that day! Another story!)

[+ Truereview]

Not to speak for someone else but I do think many of us escorts choose to communicate, meet etc based on our many past experiences. While the vast majority of clients are professional and sincere there are many that are not and see this as a game. I could write a book in my 11 year career on what I call the "games" some play. For example, its pretty embarrassing to show up at a hotel room in full leather, because thats what the client requested and I always do my very best to make my clients happy, only to have some middle aged woman answer the door......you can use your imagination to figure out how that went I keep hearing chatter about charging a deposit, I am not sure I would be willing to give some stranger money before I even know who they are if I wasn't willing to give my first name. I have never asked for a deposit, maybe its something I should do to prevent wasting my time, which trust me I have often, but I wouldn't ask anyone to do something I wasn't comfortable doing, and I couldn't see myself giving money to a complete stranger. As for reviews, they are about the only thing we can provide to new clients for them to complete, somewhat, a full picture of who we are. If an escort has multiple reviews that paint a picture of trust, I am not sure why he wouldn't be trusted, now with that being said us escorts have no way at all to paint a complete picture of who is meeting us. We are all humans, we won't all get along or agree, but respecting each other is what is most important. I know for me I would never do to someone what I wouldn't want done to me.....its not a perfect world and unfortunately that isn't always the case, so we at times do each need to keep our guard up based on whats important to protecting us as individuals.

Keith, thanks for speaking up. To me, your posts seem logical, thoughtful, and insightful. What your posts lack is a judgmental undertone. You, instead, bring your years of experience across as subtle coaching thru your own story-telling. You talk with us (not at us) using personal experiences instead sweeping statements and generalities that make you a target for debate. You don't come across as having an alternate agenda. In just a few posts, I've noticed you don't alienate, you actually try to bridge disparate opinions. Please keep bringing your experience to the forum. It is a nice counter-point to others. I'm learning from you. Example: now I know an alternate reason why an escort would text me from the threshold instead of knocking on my hotel room door. I woulda (and have) judged escorts who have done this in the past. Now, I know better. Thank you.

[ny2222]

Keith, thanks for speaking up. To me, your posts seem logical, thoughtful, and insightful. What your posts lack is a judgmental undertone. You, instead, bring your years of experience across as subtle coaching thru your own story-telling. You talk with us (not at us) using personal experiences instead sweeping statements and generalities that make you a target for debate. You don't come across as having an alternate agenda. In just a few posts, I've noticed you don't alienate, you actually try to bridge disparate opinions. Please keep bringing your experience to the forum. It is a nice counter-point to others. I'm learning from you. Example: now I know an alternate reason why an escort would text me from the threshold instead of knocking on my hotel room door. I woulda (and have) judged escorts who have done this in the past. Now, I know better. Thank you.

Truereview - I totally agree.

Keith I just wonder why I can't win the lottery and the wrong door you show up to is mine

 

NY

[+ Truereview]

Truereview - I totally agree.

Keith I just wonder why I can't win the lottery and the wrong door you show up to is mine

 

NY

Get behind me, NY...I want Keith first!

[MikeyGMin]

If you have even the slightest need to remain confidential due to work, community status, a relationship etc, give the escort nothing to harm you with.

 

That was a very well thought out and written response. This is the part that I struggle with and have to remind myself not to get all judgmental. It feels like skulking about and I really try to avoid activities that require skulking.

• Work? I can somewhat understand this. I only have a mid-level career at a company with solid LGBT protections. I would have to get arrested and have felony charges before it could ever impact my career. Might be a little embarrassing, but that's about it. However, I can understand that high profile senior people who are on track for VP or CEO would be more of a target and have more concern.
  

• Community Status? Feels very Josh Duggar-ish to me. And this is where is starts to get judgmental. If you have a position in the "community" that an escort could destroy...something needs to be rethought. Either the position or the escort hiring.
  

• Relationship? I can't even go there without sounding like a judgmental asshole.
  

[keithhardy]

Keith, thanks for speaking up. To me, your posts seem logical, thoughtful, and insightful. What your posts lack is a judgmental undertone. You, instead, bring your years of experience across as subtle coaching thru your own story-telling. You talk with us (not at us) using personal experiences instead sweeping statements and generalities that make you a target for debate. You don't come across as having an alternate agenda. In just a few posts, I've noticed you don't alienate, you actually try to bridge disparate opinions. Please keep bringing your experience to the forum. It is a nice counter-point to others. I'm learning from you. Example: now I know an alternate reason why an escort would text me from the threshold instead of knocking on my hotel room door. I woulda (and have) judged escorts who have done this in the past. Now, I know better. Thank you.

You are most welcome, and thank you!

[josh282282]

• Work? I can somewhat understand this. I only have a mid-level career at a company with solid LGBT protections. I would have to get arrested and have felony charges before it could ever impact my career. Might be a little embarrassing, but that's about it. However, I can understand that high profile senior people who are on track for VP or CEO would be more of a target and have more concern.
  

• Community Status? Feels very Josh Duggar-ish to me. And this is where is starts to get judgmental. If you have a position in the "community" that an escort could destroy...something needs to be rethought. Either the position or the escort hiring.
  

 

LOL! Yeah, maybe I’m actually Josh Dugger! Luv that. Wouldn’t that be hysterical if I actually was him and it gets out to the press that Josh Dugger is not only addicted to straight porn but also gay escorts? Oh, the howls of laughter.

 

In regard to community status, I was thinking along the lines of maybe the Chief of Police in a small mid-western town. Or maybe a deacon in a church (don’t judge). Or maybe a teacher. Or a (in the closet but supportive of gay rights) Republican state legislator (don’t judge).

 

I don’t think something needs to be rethought if a potential client has a position in the community that is so vulnerable that escort hiring should be reconsidered. I just urge very careful choices and behavior when working with escorts (no real name, meet him out in a public place first). Many of the horror stories we hear could have been avoided with improved safety techniques.

 

Actually, I wish for the day when we don’t look at sex with such a backwards Puritan/Victorian era mentality where clients fear societal judgement. Who cares what consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes? And sex is life-affirming. We all should be getting more of it, not less. And those who do should be praised, not humiliated. And those who escort should be considered Healers of the World and given special status in society.

 

But no, in all truth, I’m not Josh Dugger. I’m Tom Cruise (don’t judge).

[+ Truereview]

But no, in all truth, I’m not Josh Dugger. I’m Tom Cruise (don’t judge).

I knew your posting style was familiar! That twinkle in your eye, that smirk, that Scientology savoir faire ...

[seaboy4hire]

Makes no difference to me. So long as the client isn't late (I'm a lil ocd about being on time) and whatever he feels comfortable with is fine by me.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[MikeyGMin]

In regard to community status, I was thinking along the lines of maybe the Chief of Police in a small mid-western town. Or maybe a deacon in a church (don’t judge). Or maybe a teacher. Or a (in the closet but supportive of gay rights) Republican state legislator (don’t judge).

 

Oh...you're good Tom Cruise. With the exception of the teacher those are the EXACT kind of people I would judge for hypocritical behavior. Trying...not...to...judge. Trying...not...to...judge. Trying...not...to...judge. Massive fail!

[jawjateck]

ramblinwreck

[Juan Vancouver]

Josh,

 

It's fascinating to read your post urging us to imagine all those people in preeminent positions and how you would prefer to have them meeting escorts at the lobby and making us want to think this would be better than having the escort coming to their room.

 

It is precisely clients in high places in the Political arena, government, finance and arts who are more willing to -first and foremost- choose escorts with a proven record of discretion, and then, without a moment of hesitation, share their full names when confirming the session. The very few occasions in which this was not the case was when they were checked into hotels using aliases which to me is just as good.

 

But again, to each his own. Do that with which you are comfortable. Life is too short to incur on necessary stress. Not good for the complexion.

 

You mention that the purpose is about safety to get the name and to verify occupancy of the room. When you say safety I immediately think of physical safety but I am not all that clear how it is assured by the method you use. Perhaps you also mean safety from law entrapment but again that isn't assured by the method (and as it is legal in Canada it doesn't seem to apply anyway). It seems, from the way I would interpret it, to be mostly safety in regards of losing time (and money) from a non-existent person at the hotel.

 

You are right, fear of police stints is not a thing in Canada.

 

Half of my concern when it comes to safety is to ensure I am not being sent out in wild goose chases. Maybe losing money is not an issue for you, but having my schedule filled by people who have no intention to honour their sessions is a huge risk for me and I am not willing to incur in it if I can help it.

 

The other consideration, however, is strictly physical safety. It only takes being acquainted with a few escorts to realize that people who have the intention to hurt or harass escorts are very creative. Sometimes they send you to places where they know you might find trouble, sometimes they send you to places where they will be watching and then they might follow you and harass you.

 

When I go to a session, a person of my absolute trust has the room number or address of the session and knows exactly how long I will be there. If a certain amount of time has passed and I didn't check in, this person will do what is necessary to make sure I am safe. That is why it is important to keep an eye for the time, that is why it is important to check in as soon as I am out or as soon as I know the session might extend, and that is why it is very important that I am in the very room mentioned in the booking process. Some of my colleagues have been taken to different rooms upon arrival to be abused, which made it really difficult to locate them when it became obvious something was wrong.

 

Not following basic safety measures is what all horror films have in common.

 

Many of my colleagues who don't have the habit of confirming the hotel room by calling directly have been sent to other people's rooms as pranks. I am happy to know people are having fun out there, but I don't want to volunteer to be the butt of the joke.

 

And if it does relate to the no-show, would you also consider a down payment or full payment sent in advance rather than divulging details by the client? Although not very popular among most clients, it can from what I know be done anonymously so it would solve the other side's concerns and help address some of your concerns as well. As you say, you have built up a solid reputation so that perhaps it is something that could be offered as an alternative.

 

I am curious. How are you going to send a payment without divulging your information? It might not be immediately available, but a couple calls and ALL your info will be available. It seems to me as if you are putting yourself at an even further vulnerable position.

 

In Canada you can do an email transfer. Takes only a few minutes, and it is somewhat anonymous. With a little probing it is actually really easy to find out a lot from the sender, but it is kind of safe. I accept email transfers when clients who didn't show up in the past want to book again.

 

However I would not dream to think that someone paying me beforehand would make me safe from abuse and harassment. People with money and bad intentions could still sending me to someone else's room to cause trouble, could follow me, could harass me, etc.

 

If anyone is not willing to honour my hard work building my reputation by offering simple assurances, then I will sadly have to miss them.

 

Absolutely no amount of money is worth living in fear. Even a little fear. I love myself and I love to surround myself with people who see people as people. I've done my work for a long time. Those people wanting to find people that are reliable will and have come to me. I am a very lucky man and have been incredibly lucky to meet amazing clients.

 

At this point it's clear we are not going to convince one another, but hopefully we have been able to get a glimpse into the reasons the other has.

 

May we continue to do what works for us, and if something hasn't worked that well till now, may we have the wisdom to learn new ways.

 

Big hugs to everyone. EVEN to those who childishly hold grudges and keep attacking indirectly in every one of their posts.

 

Life is too short, guys.

[+ Travis69]

If I leave a pass key for the elevator at the front desk for an escort I would have to have the escort's real name as I would assume the front desk would ask for ID before they give out the key. Do you think the escort would give me his real name? I prefer the escort come directly to my room but as some don't want to give me their real name they expect me to meet them in the lobby which I don't like doing. Any way around this problem?

[josh282282]

Juan,

 

By all means, continue your current business protocols. I have no vested interest in how you run your business. And I truly wish nothing but professional success.

 

Nevertheless, I fear you might be engaging in what is described as selection bias.

It's fascinating to read your post urging us to imagine all those people in preeminent positions and how you would prefer to have them meeting escorts at the lobby and making us want to think this would be better than having the escort coming to their room.

 

It is precisely clients in high places in the Political arena, government, finance and arts who are more willing to -first and foremost- choose escorts with a proven record of discretion, and then, without a moment of hesitation, share their full names when confirming the session.

 

Selection bias is the selection of individuals, groups or data for analysis in such a way that proper randomization is not achieved, thereby ensuring that the sample obtained is not representative of the population intended to be analyzed. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect.

 

I postulate that for every (high ranking) client who willingly gives you their hotel room number and their real name- I'm not disputing your experience - there are 9 other clients not hiring you but hiring the many escorts all over the country you don't see. This may give you the false impression that your specific protocol is typical escort behavior when I suspect it is not.

 

I also think that due to your specific and atypical (but perfectly acceptable to you) hiring criteria that those clients who demand privacy/anonymity select OUT of you as an escort, meaning they actively chose another escort. It happened with me. I knew long before this specific post of your acceptance of clients protocol and have opted to not utilize your services for that very reason. Others seeking anonymity could likely be making the same choice. This only reinforces my comment on selection bias above.

[+ saminseattle]

Selection bias is the selection of individuals, groups or data for analysis in such a way that proper randomization is not achieved, thereby ensuring that the sample obtained is not representative of the population intended to be analyzed. It is sometimes referred to as the selection effect.

 

If Juan were guilty of selection bias, he wouldn’t be the only one. Unfortunately, it’s hard to get good statistics about any of this stuff. Anecdotal reports through this forum are probably the best that’s possible.

[MikeyGMin]

Dsmn. You guys are making me feel...

 

[keithhardy]

Now honestly bois, is there really any point in arguing this? If Juan feels it makes it safer for him to ask for a room number and name, isn't that his choice to do so? Not saying I agree to disagree, but it isn't hurting anyone, except maybe Juan, as you pointed out Josh, there will be some clients that don't contact him. There will always be clients that don't contact particular escorts for whatever reason. The same goes with you Josh, if you feel its safer for you not give out the info he is looking for that is your free choice, as you said just choose someone else. I think its extremely difficult to look at this as selection bias, it isn't like Juan isn't giving you the opportunity he extends to everyone else, you just aren't comfortable with it, and thats your free will, just like it is his. My point it however at one time, not too long ago, before rentboy and rentmen agencies were the only way to really obtain a good escort, if I recall correctly many of these agencies required full names to provide you the services. Just curious as to how clients handled this during the time of agencies, I also think during the time of agencies there was a lot less going through the minds of both the client and escort as it related to risks and safety. There is always the potential for risk, for both the escort and client. We as individuals do what we feel is best for us to minimize that risk. Is there really an issue with each of us protecting our own selves? I do have a suggestion, Josh give only your first name, and Juan when you call and ask to be connected to the room and you are asked for a last name say " I am delivering Pizza, I am sorry I don't have a last name". I had to use this the other night when a client asked me to call his room when I arrived, I was asked for a last name which I didn't have, and had to think fast, the delivering Pizza got me instantly connected!!!!! Just some food for thought, now who wants pizza delivered!?!

[ny2222]

" I am delivering Pizza, I am sorry I don't have a last name". I had to use this the other night when a client asked me to call his room when I arrived, I was asked for a last name which I didn't have, and had to think fast, the delivering Pizza got me instantly connected!!!!! Just some food for thought, now who wants pizza delivered!?!

KH you are killing me. First the hot dude in full leather showing up unexpectedly to my room vision then the whole pizza delivery boy thing (why have I never had a hot pizza boy deliver my pizza lol ). Whatever you do don't say you have a pickup truck (long story)

All kidding aside great post. It is like you said it should be what one is comfortable with and what works for them, Thanks

[+ newatthis]

Makes no difference to me. So long as the client isn't late (I'm a lil ocd about being on time) and whatever he feels comfortable with is fine by me.

 

Hugs,

Greg

If you were really OCD you would have typed "cdo." LOL