Clients Speaking their Mind

[Keenan]

This question may have already been answered but is more directed at the clients. As an escort I am always trying to go above and beyond to make my clients happy. If a client is disappointed or has an issue I would rather him bring it up during the appointment rather than leave a bad review. I am willing to work with my clients and make sure they are happy. Anyway this brings up the question why are there some clients that may act as if they are happy and not bring up any issues until it comes time to leave a review? As I see it the only way to get what you want is to communicate.

[+ honcho]

I imagine that some of us are ultra-confrontation-adverse .

 

And it could also be that having to explain on the spot what didn't go as well as the client hoped might make it even

less happy.

 

Now all that being said, when I posted my last review I ran it by the 'scort first to make sure he was OK with it.

 

I think it's helpful to let your clients know of your eagerness; you might consider just putting sentence #3 followed by sentence #2 right at the end of your rentmen profile.

[Nvr2Thick]

I've seen people smile and walk out of restaurants thanking the server and manager before writing scathing reviews on Yelp. Hell, I've seen them submit poor reviews via smartphone while in the restaurant without providing direct feedback.

 

There are a lot of reasons why a client might submit a poor review without providing feedback. Some people are more comfortable stating their complaints without the awkwardness or fear of direct confrontation. Personally I've sometimes been in situations with escorts where I was disappointed and just wanted to leave. Sometimes as a client I can get so invested in the anticipation of the encounter that I feel humiliated and foolish for "hiring out" for affection once things don't pan out as expected. There have also been times when I've felt that the issues were ingrained in an escort's appearance or personality, and aren't really fixable with feedback. I don't write many reviews and I don't think I've ever submitted a poor review. In any of these situations, however, I would not care to talk out the issues with the escort.

[MikeyGMin]

I can't say it better than Nvr2Thick. The only thing I'll add is that 90% of the time I've been disappointed has been when the guy doesn't get into kissing. If I can tell someone doesn't want to kiss me, the moment is gone forever. Talking about it won't resolve the issue because then it will feel forced and I'm not into that.

 

In those thankfully rare situations, I would not repeat, but I wouldn't write a bad review either.

[+ Keith30309]

My 2-cents worth, based on my disappointing experiences. I think the premise that a companion is able to understand what is asked and is reasonable - that comes with experience.

 

These are not particularly rational responses but that's the nature of a circumstance which has a big emotional component (these are all real examples I've experienced; I didn't submit reviews for any of these guys but just noted in the forum that we had met... that's a different forum thread):

1) Desire to avoid a confrontation which would ruin whatever sliver of chemistry that might exist ("

I really like kissing and your mouth tastes like an ashtray - would you mind brushing your teeth

", or, "

I understand you're busy but I'd prefer that you not text while we're together

")

2) Remaining mute hoping it will get better or the problem element will stop ("

You feel mechanical and distant - could you please accept & return my attempts at intimacy

")

3) Realizing early that there's no way in hell it's going to work because of some major problem and 'finishing' the time as best you can and getting out ("

I appreciate that you enjoy partying but I'd really prefer you not smoke the meth during our time together

") (really)

In the last (positive) review I submitted I made note that the companions initiated a conversation about likes & dislikes and my preferences - that's why I set up 2+ hour appointments. Their objective wasn't to find a reason to say 'no' to something but to rather understand how to make it a 'yes' experience for all of us.

[rvwnsd]

Sometimes, in the heat of a moment, it can be difficult to articulate one's thoughts or feelings without sounding confrontational or angry. My best guess is that some people (escorts and clients alike) would rather put up and shut up than come across sounding confrontational. Another possibility is that some escorts simply deserve a bed review. When a client articulates a fairly reasonable desire, such as "I prefer not to have my face fucked," but the escort continues to face fuck anyway, I think that escort deserves a bad review.

[+ glennnn]

I can't say it better than Nvr2Thick. The only thing I'll add is that 90% of the time I've been disappointed has been when the guy doesn't get into kissing. If I can tell someone doesn't want to kiss me, the moment is gone forever. Talking about it won't resolve the issue because then it will feel forced and I'm not into that.

 

In those thankfully rare situations, I would not repeat, but I wouldn't write a bad review either.

 

Yes, yes, yes! kissing is very revealing! Don't fake it. Better to take it off the menu.

[LADoug1]

For me it's about the "direct confrontation" issue. Also because I don't have the best self-esteem I assume the session isn't going well because of me. I don't write reviews often and have never written a bad one though. I think it isn't fair to write a bad review without having spoken up during an appointment which isn't going well for me. Give the escort a chance. But it does sting when I pay for a disappointing session.

[+ Truereview]

I agree that folks (clients and escorts) tend to avoid confrontation. I also agree that during confrontation things can escalate out of control. I tend to be assertive in my engagements but try to do so constructively - still trying to get better at it. I think the difference with escort engagements vs a dining experience or other service oriented activity is that there is more emotional baggage and feelings involved. some clients dont have enough time to process their feelings and emotions during the encounter OR their libido may have masked the flaws in the experience. That delayed processing time may lead to review surprises.

 

I also think escorts can help mitigate this phenomenon. Some of my best guys, no matter how well they know me, still check in - it can be done subtly and endearingly: "do you like that?" "I enjoy how you do that, is it good for you?" One of my most sought-after and favorite guys, sits next to me, holds me, looks me in the eye and says: what do we want to do today? You have no idea how freeing that is to a client. I've responded in all sorts of ways: I just want to be held, i want you to take full control, I want us to f&ck like animals. He typically will assert himself too if something is not necessarily in his repertoire that day. He knows that, as a client, I will know he is not into it. Towards the session end, he checks in again. He doesn't do it in a way that kills the mood or the organic nature of things; he is just genuinely interested in making an extraordinary experience.

[+ quoththeraven]

Sometimes it's because something doesn't become clear as an issue until afterward. It might not result in a bad review but cause a decision not to rehire.

[jimboivyo]

based on what I read, a lot of clients are passive aggressive

 

if you can't discuss issues over email or in person, then bomb a guy with a bad review, you're a shitty human being

[instudiocity]

This question may have already been answered but is more directed at the clients. As an escort I am always trying to go above and beyond to make my clients happy. If a client is disappointed or has an issue I would rather him bring it up during the appointment rather than leave a bad review. I am willing to work with my clients and make sure they are happy. Anyway this brings up the question why are there some clients that may act as if they are happy and not bring up any issues until it comes time to leave a review? As I see it the only way to get what you want is to communicate.

My favorite hires ask me before, during, and after the event if I'm enjoying/enjoyed myself. I have on occasion had to ask the escort if he's enjoying himself because he seemed distracted. You are correct in saying, "the only way to get what you want is to communicate." Unfortunately, the escort needs to query the client repeatedly to assure the client is enjoying himself.

 

If you've made your best efforts and still get a negative or even neutral review, don't beat yourself up, you know you put forth a great effort.

[instudiocity]

"As an escort I am always trying to go above and beyond to make my clients happy."

 

Keenan it's refreshing to see a post by an escort looking for ways to make their sessions more responsive and positive for their clients. Unlike some of the escorts who post on this site with nothing but ad nauseam negativity about potential clients, the cities they visit, perceived racism, etc., your post is the sign of a true courtesan. Best wishes in the new year.

TRIPLE LIKE!!!

[calrichmond]

This question may have already been answered but is more directed at the clients. As an escort I am always trying to go above and beyond to make my clients happy. If a client is disappointed or has an issue I would rather him bring it up during the appointment rather than leave a bad review. I am willing to work with my clients and make sure they are happy. Anyway this brings up the question why are there some clients that may act as if they are happy and not bring up any issues until it comes time to leave a review? As I see it the only way to get what you want is to communicate.

I agree that trying to resolve the problem during the encounter is preferable to a bad review. There was a negative review about Amir, a hot arab I fucked once in Orange County. Following the negative review, Amir took the responsibility and apologized for his "unprofessional behavior".

 

Having fucked Amir, I knew that if asked, he would have stopped the cell phone conversation and focused on his client. There was no need to provide a negative review, especially with this guy who went far and above to exceed my expectations.

 

The only negative review I ever submitted was on an escort I tried to work with during the encounter. For some unknown reason, the interview never got published!!! Blessedly, he is out of the business, but if I ever saw him submit a profile again, I would warn you guys.

[+ Keith30309]

I agree that trying to resolve the problem during the encounter is preferable to a bad review. There was a negative review about Amir, a hot arab I fucked once in Orange County. Following the negative review, Amir took the responsibility and apologized for his "unprofessional behavior".

 

Having fucked Amir, I knew that if asked, he would have stopped the cell phone conversation and focused on his client. There was no need to provide a negative review, especially with this guy who went far and above to exceed my expectations.

 

The only negative review I ever submitted was on an escort I tried to work with during the encounter. For some unknown reason, the interview never got published!!! Blessedly, he is out of the business, but if I ever saw him submit a profile again, I would warn you guys.

 

I'm curious - how does that conversation go? I've been in the situation twice where a companion took a call in the middle of (not beginning or end) of our time together and I sat, steaming. "I understand you have other things going on but can you hang up the damn phone and pay attention to me?". And then what is the mood like after that chastisement?

 

It's a no-win situation - if you say something then whatever mood you were trying to create is likely shot. If you don't and try to minimize the effect there is still a lingering, negative impression.

 

(By the way - this isn't passive aggressive behavior. That implies prior intent and I believe every sane client goes into a session wanting very badly for it to be successful. Passive acceptance - yes, but I'd not accept the notion that clients hire simply in order to be able to write bad reviews.)

 

It really makes you appreciate the true professionals out there - thank you guys!

[Donpat]

From a client's perspective, and a client that has had many unfortunate experiences, in the event that a session has gone poorly for any number of reasons, I'm more likely to consider what my evaluation of the PERSON the companion has been before contacting him directly. If my instincts tell me that direct contact is going to go badly, then I am going to avoid confrontation and let it go completely. If the session has been horribly bad, and I have felt disrespected or otherwise poorly treated, I'll consider a review without out notifying the companion. It all depends on my own personal feelings of the individual, regardless of his skills or lack of skills during a session. Having said all that, I'd say in principle and in theory I am all for directly discussing things with the companion first, as Keenan has suggested. Speaking of that, Keenan, my instincts right now tell me that IF we met and IF something went sideways, I am totally sure that I would feel comfortable with contacting you and explaining how things seemed from my side of the bed, pardon the very poor visual image and attempt at humor.

[+ purplekow]

As is my style, I will try to coax the escort into the activity that I want. If caressing the head and slowly moving it down over my body doesn't work, I might say: I would love to have you suck me, do you want me to suck you first? Pretty much leads to somebody sucking something. If that does not work, I probably would not push it, but if a bad review is forthcoming (and if their was a fourth coming there is never a bad review) the escort should not be surprised. A polite or sexy and considerate request, is still a request from the man (or woman) who has hired you. As with the client of any other profession, if the work is not done, you can expect a consequence, either a bad review or a bad recommendation to a friend and at the least do not sit by the phone waiting to be rehired. Do people "still sit by the phone" ?

[dcguy20]

My experience was with a massage therapist as opposed to an escort. I had seen the guy a couple of times, but the third session was very off which he terminated half way through with no explanation.

 

Feeling extremely perplexed and a bit unnerved, I sent him an email stating my dissatisfaction, especially since I wrote an excellent review based on my first massage with him.

 

He was extremely apologetic and explained what was going on with him. A year went by before I booked another appointment with him, but he ended up not charging me as a way of thanking me for coming back.

 

I would not have posted a negative review as I felt it necessary to go right to the source (him).

[+ azdr0710]

particularly WASPy, old money-types often simply say nothing and never return again....happens in restaurants, etc.....

 

"never complain, never explain".....I believe this phrase was coined in the late 1800s by wealthy industrialists who didn't want to draw attention to their sometimes-shady dealings

[instudiocity]

My philosophy of Sales is also my philosophy of buying -> "Don't get angry! Reach for their wallet!

 

If a potential customer goes to my competitor for comparison shopping or attempts to negotiate, I respond with: "Oh! You're just shopping! You didn't really want to purchase the top quality widget on the market and enjoy the guarantee and warranty we provide. I see! Just let me get my things. I'll be out of your way. I'm sure you're going to love saving money more than getting the best for your money."

 

IF an escort takes a phone call during MY appointment, I'd get up, dress, and leave. He obviously wasn't giving me the exclusive experience I was purchasing.

 

It's only happened once. Dood had to pull my briefs back off but he got the message, provided an untimed finalé and earned a great tip along with a valuable lesson (I hope!)

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

If I can't get up the nerve to tell you what I really want from the session, I'm sure as heck not going to tell you when you didn't meet my expectations.

[Keenan]

Thanks for all the responses on this topic. I know it's hard to make everyone happy but I try my best. With that said I am someones Christmas present tomorrow. Happy holidays.

 

Keenan

 

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[calrichmond]

I'm curious - how does that conversation go? I've been in the situation twice where a companion took a call in the middle of (not beginning or end) of our time together and I sat, steaming. "I understand you have other things going on but can you hang up the damn phone and pay attention to me?". And then what is the mood like after that chastisement?

 

It's a no-win situation - if you say something then whatever mood you were trying to create is likely shot. If you don't and try to minimize the effect there is still a lingering, negative impression.

 

(By the way - this isn't passive aggressive behavior. That implies prior intent and I believe every sane client goes into a session wanting very badly for it to be successful. Passive acceptance - yes, but I'd not accept the notion that clients hire simply in order to be able to write bad reviews.)

 

It really makes you appreciate the true professionals out there - thank you guys!

Well, the conversation goes as a gentle suggestion. The escort should pick up the clue. It is, after all, a business arrangement, and he's in a service industry.

[down_to_business]

...

"never complain, never explain"...

 

I thought a lot about this topic and this quote.

 

During the session, absolutely not. Like others have stated, there is no way to (at least in my mind) to salvage anything left of the appointment by complaining during the session. Plus, in all honesty, you should know better in the first place to not take that phone call, or check your email, or show up two hours late smelling like an ashtray, or whatever thing you did that I shouldn't have to tell you turned me off on our time together.

 

Now if its something easily correctable, I really like it when you do this, I don't like it so much when you do that... sure-- I can mention that during our time together.

 

From personal experience, if it's something like expressing a deep seeded prejudice (for example) that I find really offensive- no I am not going to confront you during the session but you can be sure that I won't be coming back and you won't be hearing from me again.

 

I guess for the most part, yes. I am not going to complain, I am not going to explain, I am not going to smear your reputation on Yelp (or any other review site wink wink) but I am not going to lie if directly asked by someone about my experiences with you either. I also most definitely won't be coming back for more.

 

In short, communication is awkward for many of us and confrontation is to be avoided at all costs. Sometimes we have good historical reasons for developing these patterns.

[LADoug1]

What's the best way to communicate to an escort what you want to do sexually without going over the line and having them suspect you are the police. I'm always afraid to be too specific. I also tend to shy away from speaking to an escort over the phone. I usually rely on what they say in their profiles and what is said about them on this review site if they have indeed been reviewed.