Is a bi- escort out of the picture for you if he has been reviewed by a woman?

[Rudynate]

As a young man, one of my favorite things was to go in search of closeted married guys. Hotel bars were good places to find businessmen who fooled around with other guys when they traveled. There was also a bathhouse in town that tended to be frequented by married guys on weekdays during the day. For me, finding and having sex with these guys was great fun and had an edge all its own. I think an escort who moved easily between sexes might do the same for me.

[+ quoththeraven]

I'm going to guess its the vaginal reference. I've found most (yes I'm generalizing) gay men hear vagina, turn pale, and fall in a fluttering faint. (yes I'm being very facetious).

 

That would have been my first guess, too, but the way it was written was so vague it was capable of different interpretations. I didn't want to assume. We all know what doing that does: "make an ass out of u and me."

 

I don't know if that's what's going on, but don't feel like you need to pussyfoot (oh, the irony -- this just happens to be the first thing that popped in my brain) around things having to do with women and girly bits. Be upfront, even blunt. That's a lot more helpful and then no one has to play twenty questions.

 

You do realize women (not just us, but in general) think, "It's men who are the wusses, not us"? Not just gay men either, believe me. Cues story about seemingly every man in all of the world being unable to cope with being sick or ill.

[Battle]

No being bi isn't a problem...hearing about girlfriends/wives/children is an absolute deal breaker.

[+ quoththeraven]

Something else that's occurred to me in the meantime: Female clients of bisexual escorts don't have these qualms. It's true that we don't know how many potential female clients don't book because escorts have male and female clients. It's also true that there's not much alternative, and the alternatives are more like gigolos (which has a "dance and go to social events with women" connotation) and gentleman companions than escorts.

 

But I still think it's important to note that the female clients are able to cope with the idea that the escort who fucks them also fucks men, and maybe sometimes is fucked by them. Also, an escort with experience as a bottom is particularly of interest to me because it means he knows what it's like to be where I am, which means he's likely to do a better job than someone who doesn't.

[+ quoththeraven]

No being bi isn't a problem...hearing about girlfriends/wives/children is an absolute deal breaker.

 

I get girlfriends and wives, but why children? Because it implies he's married? That's not necessarily the case.

[sincitymix]

I get girlfriends and wives, but why children? Because it implies he's married? That's not necessarily the case.

 

*stares at raven with giant tear filled waif eyes* Why.. why did you take daddy away from us?

 

I think that's probably whats running through his head when he says no wives, girlfriends, children. he doesn't want to be responsible for breaking up a family upon discovery.

[+ FreshFluff]

(I wrote this earlier, but it also relates to the discussion between Gareth and QTR above.)

 

My concern is whether or not he would enjoy himself having sex with *me*. So a totally candid account of an encounter with a female would not be helpful in addressing that.

 

A review from a woman might still help you understand the escort's overall personality and attitude. Also, there's a difference between ignoring a review because it's irrelevant and being turned off by it. I understand the gross-out factor; gay (Kinsey=6) men are, by definition, turned off by women's hoohas and by detailed accounts of activities involving same. But if you want the best escort possible, it makes sense to push past that ick factor. Otherwise, as I argued above, you're arbitrarily rejecting providers who happen to have reviews from one of the few female reviewers, while other escorts may have seen female clients but not been reviewed by them.

 

I think part of the problem is that, historically, many men who offered P4P services identified as straight. Experiences with these men tended to be demeaning at best and dangerous at worst. Here's a gay GI during WW2 describing a sexual encounter with a fellow soldier:

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[+ FreshFluff]

(I wouldn't expect the escort to be aroused by my looks, but I think it's possible for two men to enjoy having sex without necessarily being visually stimulated).

 

Honcho is so cute when he's being modest.

 

Guess I'm not a gold-star gay 'cause I sure don't care if a guy I hire also does nookie with a girl.

 

Maybe we need to define a first and second degree gold star. A third degree gold star gay would so rare that he would inspire paintings and sculptures, like the Virgin Mary.

[AdamSmith]

A third degree gold star gay would so rare that he would inspire paintings and sculptures, like the Virgin Mary.

 

[+ Gar1eth]

Just to clarify a bit- I don't think I ever said women shouldn't write reviews. I Don't even think I said that I avoided reading those reviews. I think what I said-or what I meant to say was (I hope this doesn't get me in trouble) that I didn't like watching 'straight sex' like on that website Straight Guys 4 Gay Eyes. But as I also explained in my previous post-there's a lot of gay sex I don't like looking at either. And I'm definitely not a fan of watching S & M videos-at least not hardcore ones. For example I hate watching movies with the f*ckmachines or with fisting.

 

Anyway-thanks for reading.

 

Gman

[rguer]

I get girlfriends and wives, but why children? Because it implies he's married? That's not necessarily the case.

 

Because hearing about other people's children is rarely interesting unless I've met those children?

[TruHart1]

Thanks for clarifying, Gman. The reason I was ticked off is that this involves policing (or at least reacting negatively to, which is pretty much the same thing) the content of reviews. The underlying message could be interpreted as "female reviewers not welcome" (or "female reviewers not welcome unless they abide by our terms.") As a female reviewer, this understandably ticks me off....

 

[edited out excellent points QTR made here!]

 

...And guess what: That was the short version! I was loaded for bear if the answer was "sexual explicitness," which Gman might not like either, but if he doesn't, it sounds more like it's an across the board thing and not only pertinent to female reviewers.

 

Way to go QTR. Such an impressive and comprehensive post! You have a wonderful style of writing!!! Oh, and the two posts you followed this one with, QTR, outstandingly articulated!

 

TruHart1

[+ quoththeraven]

*stares at raven with giant tear filled waif eyes* Why.. why did you take daddy away from us?

 

I think that's probably whats running through his head when he says no wives, girlfriends, children. he doesn't want to be responsible for breaking up a family upon discovery.

 

But what if the escort is divorced, has joint custody, and is actively involved in his children's upbringing? That's the case for one of the escorts I know, whose kids are close in age to mine.

[+ quoththeraven]

Just to clarify a bit- I don't think I ever said women shouldn't write reviews. I Don't even think I said that I avoided reading those reviews. I think what I said-or what I meant to say was (I hope this doesn't get me in trouble) that I didn't like watching 'straight sex' like on that website Straight Guys 4 Gay Eyes. But as I also explained in my previous post-there's a lot of gay sex I don't like looking at either. And I'm definitely not a fan of watching S & M videos-at least not hardcore ones. For example I hate watching movies with the f*ckmachines or with fisting.

 

Anyway-thanks for reading.

 

Gman

 

No, you didn't say that, but that's the logical extension of "reviews from female reviewers aren't useful/bother us or give us 'eww' feelings". If that's the case, why bother writing them?

 

Ahaha - my tastes are more hardcore than yours. But the fucking machines videos I've seen have been of women, as has the fisting (by Princess Donna of Kink.com).

[+ quoththeraven]

Way to go QTR. Such an impressive and comprehensive post! You have a wonderful style of writing!!! Oh, and the two posts you followed this one with, QTR, outstandingly articulated!

 

TruHart1

 

As a lawyer, writing was part of the job. I've honed my ranting ability on LiveJournal and Tumblr. Thanks for the compliment!

[+ SundayZip]

I'd find an escort review posted by a women interesting. It’s always educational hearing about how the other half lives. I’d be especially curious about how an escort that has skillfully pounded me into a state of bliss, does his thing with the opposite sex.

[+ Gar1eth]

I'd find an escort review posted by a women interesting. It’s always educational hearing about how the other half lives. I’d be especially curious about how an escort that has skillfully pounded me into a state of bliss, does his thing with the opposite sex.

 

That brings up a point I've never understood. I've never understood how a top -assuming he is endurant (I'm not), can stay hard, is long/thick-none of which I am -and the bottom is properly prepared and ready, can be a bad top-if he just listens to what the bottom is saying/acting-unless the bottom only likes more of hard pounding than is the top's style. Yet you hear about well-endowed tops on this site from time to time who are lousy at topping.

 

Gman

[AdamSmith]

That brings up a point I've never understood. I've never understood how a top -assuming he is endurant (I'm not), can stay hard, is long/thick-none of which I am -and the bottom is properly prepared and ready, can be a bad top-if he just listens to what the bottom is saying/acting-unless the bottom only likes more of hard pounding than is the top's style.

 

Topping like any other physical aspect of lovemaking is an articulation between two sentient beings, not just a stroke/bore ratio as if you and he were parts of a piston engine. Some well endowed guys are very lousy tops. Conversely some moderately endowed guys are great at it. And of course most can learn and get better.

[Decatur Guy]

No issues at all with escorts seeing women, too. In fact, I kind of like that.

[big-n-tall]

That brings up a point I've never understood. I've never understood how a top -assuming he is endurant (I'm not), can stay hard, is long/thick-none of which I am -and the bottom is properly prepared and ready, can be a bad top-if he just listens to what the bottom is saying/acting-unless the bottom only likes more of hard pounding than is the top's style. Yet you hear about well-endowed tops on this site from time to time who are lousy at topping.

 

Gman

 

Well, some tops who are well endowed, think just because they are well endowed they don't have to do much "work" in regard to sex. A good top knows what he is doing and usually can read his partner's reactions.

 

I mean there are some guys who get off just because their partner is well endowed. It wouldn't matter if the well endowed guy was lousy. There is nothing wrong with that particular fetish of course. There is something for everybody, but that's another topic all together.

 

Back on topic... who cares if a gay male escort sees and is reviewed by women. All that matters is the guy is present when he's with you... well that is unless of course he brings the woman along.

[+ WilliamM]

No issues at all with escorts seeing women, too. In fact, I kind of like that.

 

I agree with Decatur Guy.

 

My biggest surprise is four pages of comments on this subject.

[+ quoththeraven]

I agree with Decatur Guy.

 

My biggest surprise is four pages of comments on this subject.

 

We're you expecting more or less than that?

[+ WilliamM]

We're you expecting more or less than that?

 

Less. I welcome all reviews that tell me more about an escort. I have traveled a lot with my closest friend who is straight. On these many trips, I am happy when he mets a woman whom he liked; he is glad when a met a nice guy.

Sex is just the next step.