Is the upscale/high end male escort a dying breed???

[suddentor]

I am an occasional user of escorts and throwing in my comments as a novice. The question 'Is the upscale/high end male escort a dying breed???' and I will say no.

 

As a self-employed businessman, it is essential to adapt to the ever changing business model. Putting an ad up on the numerous sites doesn't cut it anymore and here are the things I pay attention to when I hire.

 

1. First of all, men are very visual and that means great body/face with exciting photos. You can have the best reviews but if your photos don't cut it, I won't pick up the phone or email.

 

2. Social Media & branding. I want to know you and know your personality before we meet; not just meet, kiss and fuck. Some gay porn stars have great social media skills with great pictures that always keep me interested, thus keeping them on top of my mind when I am near them.

 

mikey9nola, to be frank - your photos are horrible and your body is mediocre at best and I would never contact you even if you have the best reviews. There are many other escorts out there and just like any business, competition is fierce, but there is a huge demand for escorts. Demand is even higher from high income people, the group you are seeking, because they realise time is more precious.

[killianjamesnyc]

I refer everyone to my PERFECT reviews on daddys reviews. Not one has spoken of bad skin or a lack of workouts...just the opposite in fact. The guy who attacked me on here has NEVER SEEN ME IN PERSON! Anyone on here who has ever ACTUALLY SEEN ME IN PERSON has nothing but good things to say about me on here as well as in reviews. My post here isn't negative...it is honest and a reporting of the facts. When have facts been, by definition, negative? Also on the other reviews sites such as men4rentnow I ask everyone to read all of my written reviews and you will find THAT NOT ONE IS NEGATIVE. I have some of the best reviews in the country and one of the highest repeat rates of anyone ever. As far as aging is concerned here in DC I am actually much younger than many of my competitors. I find in general that the demand for older guys is getting more and more. However the biz is more cutthroat and competitive. ANYWAY it is off to sunny and warm florida tomorrow for the busy (I hope) winter tourist season. Yes, as a snowbird, I am flying south for the winter. To answer another question ....NO... in florida I have found no territorialism among other escorts. They are all very friendly and welcoming. DC IS QUITE HOSTILE . Of course the exceptions would be the forum supporters and members here who are all nice, sweet professional guys who I recommend all the time. Nick, Chris E. , the legend.....etc. It is that lower echelon or lower tier (the next generation) that is openly hostile to , "old pros". These are the ones avail on cl m4m for 40-100 bucks 24/7 in Dc. That answers another question as to where to find them. Finally a shout out to Amoco...u know I love u man.... u know how to constructively criticize without being mean or nasty. Jibboya or whatever its name is could learn a lesson about courtesy and respect and decency. I think for a man my age I look damn good and that was certainly the reaction I received form the 14 good new clients I saw during my last 5 weeks in DC. Point of the thread was that the number should have been double that and it wasn't. hI was asking why. My attackers pounced on me as I expected and my defenders (mostly in pms) were very very supportive. http://daddysreviews.com/review/mikey_wayne_ftlauderdale ps......I did not change my name!!!!!!! My name is and has always been Michael and my middle name is Wayne which is the name I used for years in ft laud, Miami and wpb as a young man. Mikey is my nickname which is short for Michael. Thus Michael wayne is my real name and has always been my name professionally and personally. it is amazing how people criticize and judge without knowing ANY of the facts. I have a 20 year record in the biz of perfect professionalism, ultimate discretion and some of the best customer service in the biz. Yall read all those reviews and come back at me with the negative attacks. It makes you look like a damned fool.........love, mikey

 

 

Dam this is just cray. You should just step away from the computer and all electronic devices with access to the internet for like 48 hours and go meditate, smoke a joint, and do anything else to calm down. Step out of the box for a minute, and realize that this isnt real. Defenders and attackers? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself...to an anonymous avatar...on an open forum... Its a virtual world, the more you get caught up the harder it is to distinguish between the two.

[tanman4u]

This is a rather timely thread for me as I think I'm done with hiring higher end escorts. I'm in Las Vegas on a biz trip and had a chance to hire a guy (also traveling through here) that I've been lusting over for a year or more and hoping we'd somehow end up in the same city at the same time. Since he was traveling here too I even forwarded a deposit to PayPal so he knew I was serious. The deposit alone was more than I've ever paid before. I had planned an evening that included dinner at a very nice restaurant here in my hotel. He was ultimately too late arriving for that to happen so it was right to the room. Now don't get me wrong, the guy was smoking hot as I knew he would be and I had a pretty good time between the sheets with him, but in the end when we (well he) was done I paid the balance though it had only been two hours, something I had to point out when he was asking if I would pay even more. Huh? For the amount I ended up paying ($500) I could hired 2-3 Adam4Adam boys and probably had great sex with at least one or two of them. I'm afraid I'll be sticking with quantity over (self perceived) quality and ultimately saving myself quite a few dollars and probably not giving up much in the sex department.

[bigvalboy]

Dam this is just cray. You should just step away from the computer and all electronic devices with access to the internet for like 48 hours and go meditate, smoke a joint, and do anything else to calm down. Step out of the box for a minute, and realize that this isnt real. Defenders and attackers? Why do you feel the need to defend yourself...to an anonymous avatar...on an open forum... Its a virtual world, the more you get caught up the harder it is to distinguish between the two.

 

+1...BINGO Mr. Killian. Now what say you to a pepperoni and sausage..... pizza that is.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Please, dear God put this thread to sleep. RIP

[+ Funguy]

One last thing and THEN put it to rest:

 

High-end does not necessarily mean higher cost. It means better service. Mikey is not high end in cost but, from what I have heard and read, his service IS and THAT's what ultimately makes the difference: the service you receive. We have all seen many $300 and + give lousy service and terrific service from much less costly guys.

[jimboivyo]

This is a rather timely thread for me as I think I'm done with hiring higher end escorts

 

youre incorrectly equating high price with high end

 

tons of guys who think they can charge a bundle. very few who can get it

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

In the lounge waiting for my next flight to Frankfurt and it's complimentary Bombay Sapphire in the lounge. One should oblige

 

It is the gentlemanly thing to do.

[+ Charlie]

I think one of the problems that has arisen in this thread is that terms like "upscale" and "high end" mean different things to different commentators. Some posters are thinking about spectacular looks, some about high prices, some about fame (think: pornstars), and some about professional "escorts" rather than just hot sex. Mikey seems to be in the latter category, and I think that is really what he was asking about. Of course, there is overlap among the categories, but many of the professional escorts whom I have met are not Jeff Stryker-type fantasy figures; instead they are fairly average-looking young (and not so young) men whose success results more from their personalities and attitudes towards their work than their looks.

[HoseMaster]

mikey9nola, to be frank - your photos are horrible and your body is mediocre at best and I would never contact you even if you have the best reviews. There are many other escorts out there and just like any business, competition is fierce, but there is a huge demand for escorts. Demand is even higher from high income people, the group you are seeking, because they realise time is more precious.

 

I'm not a mean person or anything, but after looking at Mikey's ad, I feel similar to this, although I probably wouldn't be so blunt about it. When I look for an escort to hire, I usually use the Advanced Search feature to filter the Rentboy's ad to: BODY HAIR: SMOOTH and BUILD: BODY BUILDER, LEAN/SWIMMERS, or MUSCULAR/BUFF. It's just my preference. I also am attracted to guys younger than myself. If I see someone that turns me on, I usually check for reviews. If they have a bad review, I will X them off my list. However, if they have a good review--or even no review yet, I may give them a call.

 

I also look through the reviews every day when they're posted, and see if someone catches my eye there. If they have a good review, I may give them a call as well. I've found most of my hires this last way. I don't care if the person has tons of good reviews or not. If the pictures don't turn me on, I won't hire them no many how many good reviews they have. Mikey, although you seem like a nice guy by your writing, you just wouldn't be MY type, as I'm a very visual guy to a certain body type.

 

I would think as escorts age, some of their older clients may eventually pass away, can't hire any more due to physical reasons, or whatever else may come along. New faces and younger fit bodies with good reviews come along...and a whole bunch of other reasons. Escorts have shelf lives, and some just have longer shelf lives than others.

 

One of my best friends is an escort, and always has a good following wherever he goes, and his multiple reviews are nothing but positive. He's very good looking, younger, and stays in shape. He tells me that his clients will use him as long as they can, and would never give him up as their guy. But he, too, has a shelf life. Although I think he has a good ten years left in this profession (if he wants to stay in it that long), he knows that the emails and phone calls will one day start to diminish. However, for now, they are consistent and strong.

 

Mikey, although you may still have a nice client base (which is great of course) this may just be that time in YOUR career when the emails and phone calls start to diminish. No hard feelings I hope.

[BearDad58]

I hired Mikey a few years ago in Florida. No real complaints as he was quite professional and promised what he delivered. However even then I was treated to stories about how other escorts were trying to undermine his status as the number one escort in the state. I do agree with other posters that every escort no matter how good has a shelf life, so that could be part of Mikey's problem. When I saw him he did look somewhat older than his advertised age, but subtracting 5 years or more from someones age seems to be a common practice. Even I am guilty of that LOL.

 

When Mikey comes on here or other forums complaining and blaming lack of business on Grinder or CL flakes, crazy and cheap clients, and other escorts intentionally sabotaging him it just doesn't sound all that professional to me. It doesn't matter what business you are in, complaining is not the best way to drum up new biz.

 

Advertising is the key in this business as that's what will get Mikey or any escort lots of new clients if they are presented in the right light. To me Mikey's ads need a makeover. Using his DC Backpage ad as a example:

 

http://dc.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/dcs-1-white-male-escort-magic-mikey-9-cute-ripped/16138405

 

In case that ad vanishes here is the ad text:

 

"239-464-6053 IS how u reach me 24/7. My clientele is mostly FEMALES (married or single) and couples HOWEVER I do schedule appointments with gentlemen who want, need , expect and deserve only the very best and the MOST DISCREET guy around. I am all class. My services are LEGAL and my fees are for my time and my time only. I am a liscenced massage therapist and a certified personal trainer as well. I serve all upscale/ high end DC hotels and homes 24/7"

 

As a gay man I would run from anyone who says most of their clients are female. Anyone that stresses on how high class they are and only the "very best" would make me think just the opposite. Most of the other top escort ads never stress how high class, etc they are. To say he only serves high end and upscale DC hotels only adds to the negative vibes of the ad.

 

Mikey is a good professional so for his own sake he needs to tone down his ads and take out all that high class BS as in reality that will turn off people with class that are actually staying in 5 star properties. He absolutely needs to take out references to females unless he doesn't mind turning off a large majority of potential clients.

[SteveEscort]

 

http://dc.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/dcs-1-white-male-escort-magic-mikey-9-cute-ripped/16138405

 

Anyone that stresses on how high class they are and only the "very best" would make me think just the opposite. Most of the other top escort ads never stress how high class, etc they are. To say he only serves high end and upscale DC hotels only adds to the negative vibes of the ad.

 

Mikey is a good professional so for his own sake he needs to tone down his ads and take out all that high class BS as in reality that will turn off people with class that are actually staying in 5 star properties. He absolutely needs to take out references to females unless he doesn't mind turning off a large majority of potential clients.

 

I think that's a little bit unfair

 

I always market myself as being high class, the quality escorts always will. Why would any of us place an advert online and write, "Well I'm a bit ordinary, my pictures are five years old and I'm knocking on the door of 50". Have a little bit of sense please. Of course Mikey and everyone else is going to want to project an image of youthfulness and prowess. Escort work is about image, words and wisdom.

 

I somewhat agree about the female comments and it's not something I would place in an advert, I've never slept with a woman and I've only seen one foof in my entire life, however the vast majority of male escort clients are straight men and so to some of them that is a real turn on. He appears to these gentlemen to be the gay hire who is like them, having regular sex with women. I understand completely why he has that in the adverts.

[Guest]

Sorry to chime in late, but I thought I'd add my 2 cents. I've looked at the OP's ad, and thought, "Man, that guy's 38 and I look younger than he does??" (I'm in my 50s). I he's really 38 and not BS'ing, either he's been stuck with some really bad genetics, or he's spent too much time smoking, boozing, and/or partying. Although Mikey looks pretty good for a man in his 50s, he looks pretty sad for a man in his late 30s. There's probably a market for that, but it's not going to be a large market. I'm willing to pay big bucks for guys I think will show me an exceptionally good time, not just because the man thinks highly of himself. I've hired men as old as 52 (kept himself in exceptionally good shape), and would pay for a man in his 50s who's really kept his looks. Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt come to mind as men in their 50s whom I still find quite sexy.

But, to put it plainly, I'll pay on the basis of how hot a time I think I'll have. I would pay obscene amounts of money for a romp with a man I considered physically perfect, such as Nick Adams, Joshua Michael Brickman, or Steven Edward Dehler. I don't think many people would pay extra just because a man subjectively feels he's worth more. And unless I were looking to hire in a smaller town with very limited choices, I would almost always pass on an ad from a man who states that he mostly has sex with women.

 

Steven Edward Dehler

http://origincache-prn.fbcdn.net/10254347_250521961801837_1349481578_n.jpg

 

http://www.underwearexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Steven-Dehler1.jpg?dd29f1

 

Nick Adams

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_Z4iEKRmNl0/UTBD8LHIL1I/AAAAAAAADqc/DXYlZ6Ir9gw/s1600/Nick+Adams+Pictures+(12).jpg

 

Joshua Michael Brickman

http://www.malecelebnews.com/wp-content/images/2013/02/Joshua-Michael-Brickman-by-Photographer-Abel-Cruz-04.jpg

[SteveEscort]

And I take it they're the epitome of perfection.

 

Right, good luck with that one in real life

[jimboivyo]

Sorry to chime in late, but I thought I'd add my 2 cents. I've looked at the OP's ad, and thought, "Man, that guy's 38 and I look younger than he does??" (I'm in my 50s). I he's really 38 and not BS'ing, either he's been stuck with some really bad genetics, or he's spent too much time smoking, boozing, and/or partying. Although Mikey looks pretty good for a man in his 50s, he looks pretty sad for a man in his late 30s. There's probably a market for that, but it's not going to be a large market. I'm willing to pay big bucks for guys I think will show me an exceptionally good time, not just because the man thinks highly of himself. I've hired men as old as 52 (kept himself in exceptionally good shape), and would pay for a man in his 50s who's really kept his looks. Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt come to mind as men in their 50s whom I still find quite sexy.

But, to put it plainly, I'll pay on the basis of how hot a time I think I'll have. I would pay obscene amounts of money for a romp with a man I considered physically perfect, such as Nick Adams, Joshua Michael Brickman, or Steven Edward Dehler. I don't think many people would pay extra just because a man subjectively feels he's worth more. And unless I were looking to hire in a smaller town with very limited choices, I would almost always pass on an ad from a man who states that he mostly has sex with women.

 

Steven Edward Dehler

http://origincache-prn.fbcdn.net/10254347_250521961801837_1349481578_n.jpg

 

http://www.underwearexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Steven-Dehler1.jpg?dd29f1

 

Nick Adams

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_Z4iEKRmNl0/UTBD8LHIL1I/AAAAAAAADqc/DXYlZ6Ir9gw/s1600/Nick+Adams+Pictures+(12).jpg

 

Joshua Michael Brickman

http://www.malecelebnews.com/wp-content/images/2013/02/Joshua-Michael-Brickman-by-Photographer-Abel-Cruz-04.jpg

 

 

don't know some of those guys but do know of nick adams. the pic you posted of him is 5 years old at least and he's obviously wearing a bit of makeup to smooth things out. not that he's not beautiful, he is, but everyone in that biz has tricks to look the way they do

 

nick still looks great. thats not my issue. it's his un attainable nature that makes guys want him even more. I reckon that most guys want something even more when they are told it's not available or can't have it

[BearDad58]

I think that's a little bit unfair

 

I always market myself as being high class, the quality escorts always will. Why would any of us place an advert online and write, "Well I'm a bit ordinary, my pictures are five years old and I'm knocking on the door of 50". Have a little bit of sense please. Of course Mikey and everyone else is going to want to project an image of youthfulness and prowess. Escort work is about image, words and wisdom.

 

I somewhat agree about the female comments and it's not something I would place in an advert, I've never slept with a woman and I've only seen one foof in my entire life, however the vast majority of male escort clients are straight men and so to some of them that is a real turn on. He appears to these gentlemen to be the gay hire who is like them, having regular sex with women. I understand completely why he has that in the adverts.

 

When SteveEscort says the vast majority of men who hire escorts are straight, that may be true in England (although I doubt it) but I think it’s ludicrous to say that’s true in this country. From every study I have read the majority of clients are gay, some bisexual and a few closeted straights. Saying in your ad the vast majority of clients you serve are female, I assume would be a turn off for most gays.

 

As SteveEscort says, there is nothing wrong with marketing yourself as a quality class escort, but it’s how you do it that’s the key. I looked at Steve’s ad and it was quite well written. He says he is “an executive class escort for discerning gentlemen” which is fine, classy and understated. Nowhere in his ad does he keep stressing how “high class” and the best he is like Mikey does. He also doesn’t stress he serves “high class houses and hotels” as Mikey does. As I said in my previous post anytime I see someone promoting themselves as being high class, serving high class houses & hotels then a red flag goes up, at least for me.

 

If I was a client staying in a normal hotel like a Holiday Inn or just an average house then, then I would be afraid to even call Mikey’s ad as I would think he is looking for rich people and not just ordinary guys like me. I don’t think Mikey realizes he is turning off some potential clients by that. I think Mikey came on here looking for advice and yes to vent a bit. So I am just trying to give my two cents on how he could improve his ads, constructive criticism if you will.

[Steven_Draker]

Anyone that stresses on how high class they are and only the "very best" would make me think just the opposite. Most of the other top escort ads never stress how high class, etc they are.

 

I totally concur with BearDad58(+5)

 

Anyone who describes himself as "high class" OR brags about First Class lounges has to deal with his insecurities first.

 

Let your clients and your reviews speak about your "first class" service.

 

How often we see disparity between how one sees himself and the reality?

 

http://talent-dynamics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Cat-Lion-Mirror.jpg

[BSR]

I second what BearDad is saying. Stating over & over again, in annoying all caps, how high-class you are will not persuade me to believe that you are indeed what you claim. As with so many things in life, an understated approach is far more effective. I take note of SteveEscort's posts: well-written, thoughtful, polite, with impeccable grammar & spelling (better than mine - eek! - even on an anonymous message board, I should be more conscientious). Steve's posts convince me that he is indeed a proper gentleman, far more effectively than all the screaming, which leads me to assume the opposite.

[bigvalboy]

When SteveEscort says the vast majority of men who hire escorts are straight, that may be true in England (although I doubt it) but I think it’s ludicrous to say that’s true in this country. From every study I have read the majority of clients are gay, some bisexual and a few closeted straights. Saying in your ad the vast majority of clients you serve are female, I assume would be a turn off for most gays.

 

As SteveEscort says, there is nothing wrong with marketing yourself as a quality class escort, but it’s how you do it that’s the key. I looked at Steve’s ad and it was quite well written. He says he is “an executive class escort for discerning gentlemen” which is fine, classy and understated. Nowhere in his ad does he keep stressing how “high class” and the best he is like Mikey does. He also doesn’t stress he serves “high class houses and hotels” as Mikey does. As I said in my previous post anytime I see someone promoting themselves as being high class, serving high class houses & hotels then a red flag goes up, at least for me.

 

If I was a client staying in a normal hotel like a Holiday Inn or just an average house then, then I would be afraid to even call Mikey’s ad as I would think he is looking for rich people and not just ordinary guys like me. I don’t think Mikey realizes he is turning off some potential clients by that. I think Mikey came on here looking for advice and yes to vent a bit. So I am just trying to give my two cents on how he could improve his ads, constructive criticism if you will.

 

+1...

[Steven_Draker]

... with impeccable grammar & spelling (better than mine - eek! - even on an anonymous message board.

 

You're being facetious. Impeccable grammar doesn't make a great escort.

 

I'd ask to see reviews from credible reviewers.

[armadillo]

don't know some of those guys but do know of nick adams. the pic you posted of him is 5 years old at least and he's obviously wearing a bit of makeup to smooth things out. not that he's not beautiful, he is, but everyone in that biz has tricks to look the way they do

 

"Hoist with his own petar'; and 't shall go hard"

[gallahadesquire]

"Hoist with his own petar'; and 't shall go hard"

 

Keep your hands off of my petard! I'm trying to get IN!

[SteveEscort]

... and Steven's daily character assassination of me goes on

 

Steven all you do is show yourself up in front of potential clients. Will you just behave yourself please but feel free to slag me off at any given opportunity. It's you that is being seen in your true light.

 

I'm a big boy Steven and can look after myself however if the vendetta continues I will start to report to moderator each and every continued effort to make me look like a twat as bullying and abuse, which is what it is.

 

There is no place in society for playground bullies.

[SteveEscort]

When SteveEscort says the vast majority of men who hire escorts are straight, that may be true in England (although I doubt it) but I think it’s ludicrous to say that’s true in this country. From every study I have read the majority of clients are gay, some bisexual and a few closeted straights. Saying in your ad the vast majority of clients you serve are female, I assume would be a turn off for most gays.

 

In my experience they are just that. I've written many many blog posts on the subject including a recent post called My Gentlemen Friends Are Not Gay. Most escorts will concur that the majority of men who book a gay or bisexual escort are in heterosexual relationships, have girlfriends or identify themselves as heterosexual.

 

A link to that blog post is shown below

 

http://stevegayescort.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/my-gentlemen-friends-are-not-gay.html

[SteveEscort]

I second what BearDad is saying. Stating over & over again, in annoying all caps, how high-class you are will not persuade me to believe that you are indeed what you claim. As with so many things in life, an understated approach is far more effective. I take note of SteveEscort's posts: well-written, thoughtful, polite, with impeccable grammar & spelling (better than mine - eek! - even on an anonymous message board, I should be more conscientious). Steve's posts convince me that he is indeed a proper gentleman, far more effectively than all the screaming, which leads me to assume the opposite.

 

Thank you, that is very kind. A study of the English language to university level would always come in useful one day.