Deceptive Advertising

[VaHawk]

Sounds like you ran across the escort's dad for God's sake! :o Too bad you went to all the hassle timewise and otherwise just to find a real jerk! Why do you feel you had to pay this guy $50 for

"taking a shower"? After all, you are the one who went to all the trouble to go 1 1/2 hour cab time to his place. I think you should post his identity especially after his nasty comments to you!

[+ glutes]

Great, another victim of 'Bait & Switch'. That is why I've been pointing out in my posts about the scam going on the SF.

[nate_sf]

I think this happens more often then we might all think. I saw a guy this week who said this kind of thing had happened to him a couple of times. I think you should go ahead and post a fair but accurate review of your experience (like your post here), so that others might know what they can realistically expect if they call him. Those of us who try hard to be accurate and professional in our representation of ourselves would definitely appreciate your honesty!

[Spida]

In my opinion I think at least you should write a review of exactly what happened under the specific escort's reviews if they are here if not then start one. That is one of the big reasons we come here not only to find out who are the best but also to share so others don't get scammed like you did.

 

Spida.

[Guest fukamarine]

Why would you think twice about giving him a review with his name posted for all to see. Would you rather let his deception slide by and leave the door open for other members to be sucked into wasting their time? I doubt this would be your perferance! Go for it - tell all.

 

fukamarine

[uriellasvegas]

Yes... I mean that is just uncool. You "should" do a review and the person should have the chance to add a reply. Maybe he was retaining water that day and his wig was at the cleaners? Either way, if you're honest then no one can cry foul. Uri:+

[Flower]

It used to happen to me quite often, but for some time now, I just won't meet with anyone without a face pic first -- period. It doesn't have to be connected to a naked bod or hardon, just a face pic and when I am asked why I tell the person that the face is very important to me and that if all the pics aren't reasonably accurate, then we don't connect and no $$.

 

I've walked or sent someone else walking several times, despite the inconvenience and wasted time. The lie and deception is a real turn off and immediately spoils the mood--and should not be rewarded--and yes, I've done reviews and so should you.

 

I think we all owe it to each other to prevent this tyupe of SCAM and also to the good escorts here, who in a way suffer each time we go ahead and give in to a scammer just because we are embarrassed not to or don't want the aggravation. Just MHO.

[Guest RetrdEscrt]

As the others have said its a pitfall that most regular clients will fall into at one point or another,i think how many times depends on how unlucky you are.

When you are setting up an appt and you ask a guy for a recent photo and when you meet he looks nothing like the photo to me that is a contract of sorts-you are meeting and willing to pay money for the guy in the photo,if the photo is 10 years out of date then you dont pay him ANYTHING,save your money until you find someone who aint gonna scam you any responsible escort will be happy to send photos and will have more importantly UP TO DATE photos ,as they are one of the main 'tools' of sale.

[jack]

Isn't this experience the reason why Escort Agencies work? I don't have the time to mess around.

[Guest rizzuto]

Please reconsider posting review

 

I'd second what others have said, and I'd encourage you to post a review.

 

I understand that it can be uncomfortable to say something negative about someone else. Still, had one or two other clients (or almost-clients) of this guy described their experiences, it would have saved you time, money, and especially disappointment.

[Godiva]

The Right Thing To Do

 

Need to ask ya'll somthin..If you found yourself in this situation it seems so far that most of you would have left...but if you are turning away an escort not to your specs..what are the rules?? Do any of you pay anything or you would just let him walk...Whats the Right Thing To Do....

 

P.S...I am sorry if this was posted in the wrong forum..

[Flower]

Agencies may work for some, but I've had much better luck using these pages, or when an escort is not here, a few of the other escort sites (and yes, the dreaded AOL:) and emails and phone -- I always do emails since it solidifies expectations on both ends and I usually prefer a phone call just before the meeting--you can tell a lot with the tone of emails and the voice on the other end of the phone--not fool proof, but helps.

 

I've seen too many complaints about agencies to think that they provide are "scam-free", and have had just as many bad experiences with agencies as escorts, although all and all, I've been pretty lucky

 

I think we just have to sometimes trust our own insticts and be willing to be wrong once in a while. There are no guarantees in anything. :+

[Luv2play]

RE: The Right Thing To Do

 

I've been in the situation where the face was a major disappointment but the body lived up to the photo and I have gone ahead with the encounter becuz I didn't really quiz the escort, in advance, about his facial features. I learned my lesson and now I ask for a facial pic if available. But not always, for instance, if I have read reviews here that indicate the guy is hot. I know some escorts have a thing about privacy and I can respect that. But if the body does not live up to the photo used, that is another matter. That is pure misleading, really false advertising! Now some body shots can also be deceptive, so if proceeding on the basis of only a single shot, I will ask questions by e-mail or phone to build up the image in my mind. It's some trouble, but worth it really. Now in your case, you don't seem to have quizzed him much about the face (or age?) and went only on the body shot. The pot belly was a turn off. Did the pic show a six pack? If so, in your situation, I probably would have done the same.

[dick_nyc]

Please post. I had an experience a few years ago similar to this and did not know this site existed. I made arrangements to meet a "muscle guy with beautiful body handsome face 29 yrs old". Said guy showed up and looked like a fat Joe Pesci on a bad hair day. He came in complaining about how he had to pay so much to park his car and I would have to take care of that and by the way where was the money and he had to take a crap and get ready because then he had to head home because his kid was to graduate from high school that night. It was in a hotel so I showed him the bathroom and while he was in there I left. I saw last year he is still advertising in the Village Voice. Please post. We have to get scammy people like yours and mine out of business if we can. All I could think of was his poor kid to have a dad like that and resolve never to meet anyone without a picture or a reference like from this website.

[Godiva]

Deceptive Advertising

 

Actually there was another time ..it was with Scott nystr8scort.

 

I don't think he is in the biz anymore. His reviews said he was Gorgeous. I e-mailed him and he sent me a face/body pic which..I swear to God..looked like a ripped JFK jr. I lost plenty of fluids over that pic..anyway we set up a time he came to my place and no matter how I held the pic to the light..it didn't look like him at all. Now he was Gorgeous in his own right and this guy could have used his own pic..His body wasn't ripped but he could kiss like nobodys business, he cuddled and he just laid in bed with me forever never once looked at the clock..To this day no escort has come close as far as kissing. I didn't review him at that time because whomever I was with was awesome and it would have come out negative either way. I tried later to hook up with him again but alas his e-mail doesn't work.

[+ Charlie]

I have never had this experience with someone who had a picture in his ad, although I have followed some escort ads that used the same picture for many years--one escort who has posted here and been negatively discussed here is currently using a picture from a photo shoot done in the 1980s, and I have seen recent ads from someone using a photo I saw in the 70s. I have had your problem, however, with escorts who had no picture, just a written description (this was more common ten or twenty years ago than now). Sometimes it is a deliberate deception, but at other times the escort genuinely believes his self-description as "handsome", "hung", "muscular", "masculine", etc. And my subjective reaction to the guy in the flesh may be very different from someone else's, who might perceive him as he perceives himself.

 

Because we all build up mental fantasies before an encounter with a strange escort, anything about him which disrupts them is bound to be disappointing. If the problem is my fantasy, then I will pay him something even if we do nothing sexual; if the problem is that he has purposely misled me, then I pay nothing. At least once, however, I had an experience where the escort was so pathetic that I actually went through with the appointment out of sympathy for him, though I later realized that I was probably unintentionally reinforcing his self-delusion.

[Godiva]

His Name Is...

 

.....There are two pics of him posted on rentboy..The one sitting in the chair with a very defined back ass and legs and a headless one. I question whether either of these pics are him and if they are they are definately not current. What they don't show is his gut. I at least want someone in better shape than me.. I don't want to speak badly of him but that is something he should share with his clients the next time he sets up and appointment. He may have been a nice guy with a great personality but I was there to Fuck Some Muscle Ass and it wasn't there..I didn't even take off my coat....The escorts name is fael.

[dick_nyc]

RE: The Right Thing To Do

 

I can see why you would want the face pics, but from the standpoint of the escort he has to make a living and escorting may only be a part time thing for him. If he posted his face all over the place, goodbye job. If he ran into one of the pic collectors (and there are a lot of them (including me at one time) out there and possibly goodbye job. I think the escort is entitled to know that if the face is reasonable then the contract is a done deal; if not, the pics will be destroyed. If that is not part of the situation, then I think the escort is perfectly within his rights in not sending out the photos of his face. I have noticed that some of the escorts here in NY are stating that the face matches the body.

 

I also think that the escort needs to keep up with his own times. There is an escort who is very highly thought of around here. I saw his pics and he was gorgeous and just the age I like, 29 or so. I called and made an appointment. I got there and the escort was in his 40's and had added about 40 un-gorgeous pounds to his physique. I left with appropriate apologies that I had developed a headache, etc. I see that now the escort admits to being in his mid 30's. When I saw him it was 5 years ago and he admitted to being 41 then. Come on, if he is that good and he is that highly thought of, then admitting his age and posting recent photos should be a no brainer." However, trying to get by on what you looked liked 15 years ago and 50 pounds lighter doesn't cut it. With so many gorgeous escorts and so many highly reputable escorts out there, including the ones who so kindly lend their voices to the pages of the message center, why should we as consumers of a commodity which is to an extent age dependent. If I were into twinks, which I most assuredly am not, and I called up an 18 or 19 year old to make a date and he was 30 when he showed up, I would tell him to keep on walking. However, if he advertised that he was 30 and had a recent photo (last 2 years, say) in his ad and I called and made an appointment with him, then I think it would be incumbent on me to honor that contract if I could.

 

I just hope the original poster puts his comments about the escort on the reviews. I know in some ways escorts are whores are hustlers are prostitutes; however, when you find a good one you can sometimes make a friend or at least a congenial "lover" even if it is for pay. I met one when I first came to New York in 1970. I picked him up by accident and he was 37 years old and admitted to it. He said, "if you want to fuck, for God's sake say your want to fuck" so I did. We went out and did the town. During our time out I discovered that he had a master's degree. I asked him then why he escorted. He said that he had met these 2 friends when he was 18 and really hit it off with them and had become almost an adopted son to them. They had taught him how to eat, order wine, dress, paid for his college education as a loan, essentially took off his sharp edges. He had been seeing them on at least a weekly basis for 19 years and would soon celebrate the 20th anniversary with the 2 of them. He had developed his own business and was very successful, but the life had been so integral with his success that he had just kept it up. My long winded point is that here is an honest escort and he had done very well out of the whole situation. If he had lied as the first guy in this thread did then he would never have gotten all the help and benefits of his friends (by this time they had become so close that sometimes there was not even any sex involved - just a good time between friends). I am sure that he would have suggested writing up the review because it reflected on his "profession" and his ethics to have dirtballs like this guy in it.

[Godiva]

Wheres The Abs..??

 

I understand the need for privacy and I can almost forgive in the looks dept..(unless it is absolutely a lie) but the body has to be on point. If the advertised pic was taken on 2001 than that should be the caption underneath..If it is 6mnths old and the abs are long gone that that should be stated either in the ad or in conversations prior to the session.

[Godiva]

Had and interesting encounter today......

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I had set up and encounter with an escort a few days ago. I had been looking forward to seeing this escort based on his pics on rentboy.. There is no face pic so it is always a 50/50 gamble but the body pics were hot so I took the chance. I asked him how old were the pics and he said they were 6 mnths..that he was muscular yada.. yada.. yada.

I went to his apt today and he opened the door and yowsa..there stood this balding unattractive man with a "pot-belly". He could tell by my expression that I wasn't happy but he ignored me. He said give me a minute and I said "You are not what I expected" and "You look nothing like your pic" he asked me if I wanted to leave and I said yes..I said I am sorry..I was about to give him some money for at least taking a shower;) but then he said to me that I wasn't right and that I wasn't nice. So I slid my "Fiddy" dollars back into my extremely tight 501's ( I mean I had my slut outfit on..) and walked out as he slammed the door. It took me 1 1/2hr and a cab ride to get there each way. It was a waist. He should pay me for my troubles. I mean if he was even close to the pics I may have gone ahead. But he struck out both ways. Now I know that there may be some request for the escorts name..I will wait and see what the tone is..I realize that this is my perception and I didn't actually have an encounter..but then I thought about some of you who might travel longer to see him or worst fly him out to see you..

 

 

In my 3yrs of hiring...this is the second time..The first time it took me 3hrs to get to him and when I opened the door he was much shorter and no muscles. I walked out of the apt down to the street horny as hell. I called him up told him what the hell and went back up..everything was going okay till he shit on me......

 

I haven't read many reviews about this problem so I can only assume that it happens rarely or out of embarrasment like my first encounter some choose not to post.. Where is the accountablilty? Do some escorts think they can get away with this practice?

[Luv2play]

RE: His Name Is...

 

Well, I checked out his pics on Rentboy and you have every right to be pissed. If he had a pot belly, the full frontal shot shows a very toned body (with the slight outline of a six-pack) on a very nice torso. The back shot with a muscular ass is also very enticing. He advertises his age as 38 (which I normally inflate by up to 5 years anyway) but even if he was 43 he could still have a body as pictured, so if he doesn't, I would feel cheated. He also gives his waist as 33 inches, which in no way would allow for a pot belly. In conclusion, I think you reacted as I would have in the same situation. Good for you!}(

[btmstudnyc]

You should definitely do more then just give his name. I think a review would be very appropriate. I get so pissed off when I have friends hire escorts or bodworkers that have totally LIED about everything (yet they still pay them.)

 

The funny thing about this....I actually dont post the best pictures of me on purpose...that way I don't have to live up to a six-pack and coconut shoulders. I think a review that says he's better than his pics will be a positive thing. I can go from a muscular toned body...to ripped in exactly 7 days. But then, I wouldn't be any fun if we went out to dinner....cuz I like to eat. DESSERTS TOO. I think that you should be as least as good as your pics...and probably better....that's fair. Anything less...is not worth paying for.

 

Deceptive Advertising happens everywhere...not just with bad escorts.

 

So...since I need recent photos because its now post Thankgiving, Christmas and NEW YEARS....anyone want to cum over and take pictures...that way you can post them directly to the site and I can have a notary public saying that it's me. I can go to an offsite hooboy registry to get my waist measured every 15 days to confirm my measurements. Did they ever get that tape measure for dick sizing from the Guiness Book of World Records?

[Luv2play]

You are right on the money, "under-promise and over-deliver" is the way to go:D. Makes for an enjoyable experience and the client is likely to be a repeat. The rest of your response was my morning laugh:7 :7 :7 Maybe HooBoy should set up an official measurements office where certified stats, duly notarized, could be kept. I would insist that dick size be measured in both soft and fully hard states, since growers are unfairly penalized in non-XXX pics!! I would volunteer for such a job, of course with a generous travel budget and a hot assistant to carry out such an onerous job}(

[Godiva]

I thought the last few comments were funny also..

 

....but then I remembered that I had tried to get him to come to my house which was 1 1/2 hrs away and I agreed to pay him more if he did. He said he had plans so I could only meet at his place..

 

...if I hadn't had connected with other friends in the city that day which made me forget

 

...if I had traveled a greater distance... I would be livid and it most certainly wouldn't be funny ..

 

I guess you've had to be there in order to understand..I encourage anyone who runs into this type of bullshit to post in the forums right away to make possible victims aware and then to write a review like I will..Lets continue to look out for each other..

 

 

Thanxs for all of your comments..

[dick_nyc]

Thanks for giving his name. I had printed out 3 pics from Rentboy to check into and Fael was one of them. His photo is very close to my ideal and I think he looks like he has a nice bod. I can now disregard him and check into the others with more care. Much appreciated.