Meeting potential hire over coffee, Are you expected to compensate escort?

[topasian99]

I made contact with a well reviewed escort about the possibilities of a multihour hire, also possibly a future trip abroad. He seemed eager and enthusiastic with the idea. I then wrote and inquire about a possible coffee get together to brainstorm our plan,nail down the scene and get acquainted. He then proceeded to inform me that it would cost me to have this coffee meeting.

 

Like to get a sense what the board thinks. Is this normal or am I too naive to assume that taking time to discuss business over coffee should be part of the routine leading to the actual hire, and it should not involve $. Inquisitive mind wants to know!

[josephga]

imo escorts should be expected to be paid for any time together including meeting for coffee.

[rvwnsd]

I would expect to compensate the escort for his time if we met for a "pre-meeting" coffee date.

[+ nycman]

Unless you've hired him multiple times in the past...I would expect to pay

[topasian99]

I guess i have been pretty blessed in the sense that I have met escorts at Starbucks , talked about my expectations, they listened and we finalize the hiring at a later date and not having to pay the hourly rate save a cup of latte.

 

Come to think of it, This is probably one of the very few professions where one does not expect to have to go through any job interview. The moment you meet face to face, it is money in the bank for the escorts.

 

Much to learn on my part the art of hiring.

[healthguy]

I always thought the idea of getting together for drinks/coffee/dinner would be a great idea B4 the main event. In fact, from my POV, that's how I would handle it. I just assumed it would be on my tab. The preceding, and his time as well.

[JoeyBryant]

I guess i have been pretty blessed in the sense that I have met escorts at Starbucks , talked about my expectations, they listened and we finalize the hiring at a later date and not having to pay the hourly rate save a cup of latte.

 

Come to think of it, This is probably one of the very few professions where one does not expect to have to go through any job interview. The moment you meet face to face, it is money in the bank for the escorts.

 

Much to learn on my part the art of hiring.

 

Although I have generally met clients over a dirty Martini at a hotel or restaurant bar if one feels the need to 'interview' , generally it's about the same.

 

I feel the interview can be done thru email or phone call. And to further do so, the meeting at a bar can immediately precede an appointment.

 

I kind of made a similar topic on here the other day (I decided to dismiss it) and on my blog. The whole meeting up prior to an appointment and then saving the appointment for a later date. What you're suggesting is almost like a date. Not a paid date, but a regular 1st date. I'd meet my 1st dates at starbucks over Pumpkin Frappes.

 

If you insist to feel comfortable meeting 1st without committing to a hire the same day, perhaps you can discuss negotiating a 'social rate' where the guy you want to see can get paid a small note for coming out, or even a larger deposit to secure your future date, but I'd assume you'd want to visit at a location nearest him as to not factor in travel costs.

 

But it's a good thing you asked because this was what I was getting at in a previous post of mine. What if you were to meet a guy for coffee or drink, your juices started flowing and say the guy lived upstairs from the coffee shop and you 2 decided to head up to his place for some fun earlier than planned. And what if the plans were to be an overnight later that week and that's why you wanted to meet for compatibility? Well...by going on this 'date', things may progress faster than planned and rather than go for an overnight, the coffee and fling was sufficient. Not to say that would be your intentions, but things like that happen. Or, some guys go for drinks, client gets them tipsy and before they know it...client gets phone call and has to run and an hour has already passed and the mention of money was never discussed. They'd basically had some companionship at the expense of the escort's time.

 

I had just needed a client's perspective on the scenario to get people to understand what I was trying to say over the weekend. And you did, Thank you LOL.

[topasian99]

Personally, I think it is always a good business practice for a mutual no obligation meeting. (in this case , location will be the choice of the escort). Briefly engage in a cordial conversation. Get down to expectations from both sides and come to an agreement before shaking hands and call it an appointment booked. 15-20 minutes and wrap up the meeting.

 

There will be times, upon meeting the escort, you figure that he is not your cup of tea, either because he is not truthful with his advertising, or his certain behavior or personal traits of him that you know you will not be enjoying his company. In this case, is a full hourly rate justifiable?

 

I concur with the token "brief meet up" rate, but really, what should it be? Based on escort's posted hourly rate of $250.

[JoeyBryant]

There will be times, upon meeting the escort, you figure that he is not your cup of tea, either because he is not truthful with his advertising, or he certain behaviour or personal traits of him that you know you will not be enjoying his company. In this case, does a full hourly rate justifiable?

 

I concur with the token "brief meet up" rate, but really, what should it be? Based on escort's posted hourly rate of $250.

 

Well, I feel by meeting up for a drink the day of the appointment...should kind of give an idea of whether or not you'd want to move forward. I can't say what other guys would want to charge if they were to go forward with it though. If you like the guy, $50 should act as a deposit and to cover that initial meeting. However, even if you don't like the guy I feel it's still fair to give something. I rarely EVER get turned down face to face, but if it does happen and you don't provide an explanation or say you'll meet him later and don't, he'll think you're just messing him about and others will not be open to meeting in that fashion.

 

I was invited to meet a client over drinks 1st to see how things panned out, and he offered me a $100 for coming before I even arrived. But that was to be just for chatting over drinks and then we'd be doing an evening the next day.

 

Personally, I think it is always a good business practice for a mutual no obligation meeting.

 

I understand. You meet with a client to discuss their portfolio and their assets. Or you meet with a lawyer for a free consultation (actually most lawyers are ridiculously hard to get a hold of and they hire a paralegal to 'weed out' cases and do most of the consultations over the phone). Unfortunately, escorting is a bit different. Partly too, we aren't getting paid as much and our 'deals' aren't as complex as the aforementioned. It's not as large of an investment or contractual agreement as with an accountant/photographer or lawyer working on a big case would handle.

 

So things just aren't going to operate or seem as 'fair' as the above. Decisions have to be made quicker, money has to be forked over sooner.

[bigvalboy]

I would expect to compensate the escort for his time if we met for a "pre-meeting" coffee date.

 

Well looks like I am the odd man out. If I was meeting an escort to talk about taking him abroad...That's going to be a very nice and pricey trip. I would NOT expect to pay for coffee time. That is the first clue that he is NOT the escort for you. IMO.

[OneFinger]

...Is this normal or am I too naive to assume that taking time to discuss business over coffee should be part of the routine leading to the actual hire, and it should not involve $.

As a client, I'd never consider taking an escort on a future trip abroad without having at least 2-3 prior (and sexual) appointments. The last thing I want is to go on a trip with someone I really don't know.

 

I also think it is unreasonable to "chat" over a POSSIBLE hire without compensating the escort. I wouldn't expect the "chat rate" to be the same as their "services rate". But, I don't think you're entitled to a free meet-and-greet.

[jimboivyo]

Personally, I think it is always a good business practice for a mutual no obligation meeting. (in this case , location will be the choice of the escort). Briefly engage in a cordial conversation. Get down to expectations from both sides and come to an agreement before shaking hands and call it an appointment booked. 15-20 minutes and wrap up the meeting.

 

There will be times, upon meeting the escort, you figure that he is not your cup of tea, either because he is not truthful with his advertising, or his certain behavior or personal traits of him that you know you will not be enjoying his company. In this case, is a full hourly rate justifiable?

 

I concur with the token "brief meet up" rate, but really, what should it be? Based on escort's posted hourly rate of $250.

 

 

 

Time is time and his rate is his rate. This is an escort's business, so starting the relationship off by asking for a discount sounds kind of queer to me. It might just be 15 minutes of your day, but to him, it might mean rearranging a lot of things to be there.

 

Pay the hour. If you really are interested in taking this person away on a long trip, it's the least you can do to start off on the right foot.

[+ FreshFluff]

TopAsian, There are a lot of time wasters out there who'd just meet the escort, talk over the scene, and then go and beat off at home for free. There may be few of these time wasters out there, but since such people are always be looking for "fresh meat," they'll end up wasting many escorts' time.

 

Well looks like I am the odd man out. If I was meeting an escort to talk about taking him abroad...That's going to be a very nice and pricey trip. I would NOT expect to pay for coffee time. That is the first clue that he is NOT the escort for you. IMO.

 

TA wishes to discuss a multi-hour date. According to his post, the trip is only a possibility at this point.

[bigvalboy]

TopAsian, There are a lot of time wasters out there who'd just meet the escort, talk over the scene, and then go and beat off at home for free. There may be few of these time wasters out there, but since such people are always be looking for "fresh meat," they'll end up wasting many escorts' time.

 

 

 

TA wishes to discuss a multi-hour date. According to his post, the trip is only a possibility at this point.

 

Ah!! in that case, discussion of a multi-hour date, the escort should most definitely be compensated.

[JoeyBryant]

Well looks like I am the odd man out. If I was meeting an escort to talk about taking him abroad...That's going to be a very nice and pricey trip. I would NOT expect to pay for coffee time. That is the first clue that he is NOT the escort for you. IMO.

 

Come on now, so you're saying you'd base whether you'd take a guy to ancient Greece or the Islands of Seychelles over how well 1 coffee date went?

[Juan Vancouver]

I love this question.

 

As with every single question in this forum, the right answer is: everyone does it differently and there is no right or wrong. So I am going to avoid this cope out and I am going to share my personal point of view:

 

I am in the wonderful business of spending time with people.

 

I use all my talents, my body, my interpersonal skills, my knowledge about different subjects, my personal experience, my emotional awareness, my sexual libido to provide a satisfying experience of companionship. I get paid for the time I spend with people. Many a time I engage in sexual contact with my clients, and many others that doesn't happen; we go for dinner, we go to the theatre, the opera, we go scuba diving, we travel the world together. There is no one way in which the time that I spend with my clients looks like.

 

If you ask me to spend time with you, for whatever reason, I will -excitedly, put all my expertise to make sure that that time is a fun time, and I will expect to be paid for it. The shortest appointment I accept is one hour. No exceptions.

 

Wanting an escort to spend time with you with the promise that you will hire him in the future is like asking a mechanic to fix your car for free with the proviso that if he does a good job you will bring him another car. When someone says that it is logical to meet an escort before the "big event" I think you are forgetting the fact that meeting the escort, the time he spends with you IS the big event. This is our job. Not sucking your cock, not the fisting; we do this because it's fun, because we are lascivious little tarts. Our job is meeting you, spending time with you.

 

Personally, I think it is always a good business practice for a mutual no obligation meeting. (in this case , location will be the choice of the escort). Briefly engage in a cordial conversation. Get down to expectations from both sides and come to an agreement before shaking hands and call it an appointment booked.

 

I am all for cordial conversation! I agree that one has to be very careful in screening potential clients (and escorts) and one has to make sure that expectations are clear. I, like many of my colleagues, do this on the phone, at the time in which we are about to confirm a session. I would never meet anyone without first having this first cordial conversation. It starts the engines running, it is the first sexy spark of getting to know one another!

 

There will be times, upon meeting the escort, you figure that he is not your cup of tea, either because he is not truthful with his advertising, or his certain behavior or personal traits of him that you know you will not be enjoying his company. In this case, is a full hourly rate justifiable?

 

I am perfectly aware that this is the case. We are not supposed to be everyone's cup of tea. It would be ludicrous to assume that even Brad Pitt or the hottest person in the world would be desired by all and would have chemistry with everyone. That is why personally I offer that if the minute you opened the door you were not thrilled with what you saw; if you disliked my lisp, my goiter of if I reminded you of your late father; if for whatever reason you would want to not go ahead with the session, all you would need to do is say that this would not work out, and I would leave without enquiring about your motives or asking for any compensation.

 

No questions asked.

 

So, no; personally, I will not accept "social" invitations or auditions. I live by the certainty that you have every right to receive a fulfilling service from me and I have put in effect as many measures to ensure that it is so. Also I would be very unlikely to accept a trip to Europe based on a 15 minute free meet at Starbucks. In my experience, all the clients with whom I have travelled for long and short periods have approached the situation entirely different. Granted: there have been a few who have called me asking for a "tester", freebie of time, blow job, orgy, you name it, saying that they wanted to take me to Paris for two months, buy me a car, give me an apartment, buy the moon for me, you name it. Dumb ho that I am I have not agreed to giving them the tester. Only God knows what outrageous riches I have missed!

 

It takes all kinds. Some escorts love spending their free time with their clients. Some will jump at the opportunity of having an interview before a session, I am sure that some genuine traveling clients ask for interviews... I just wanted to share with you how I do things and the reason for which I do them that way. I hope this is somewhat elucidating.

[healthguy]

Dear Juan,

I would be privileged to escort you to dinner someday. It would be a pleasure just to meet and talk with such a wise person. Certainly my tab for the

pleasure of your company and time. And, if the next time around I win Megamillions, I may just subtly be interviewing you to accompany me on that trip to Ireland! Take care, Rand

[jjkrkwood]

As should be the case with any offer or invitation, the "inviter" should pay....

[bigvalboy]

Come on now, so you're saying you'd base whether you'd take a guy to ancient Greece or the Islands of Seychelles over how well 1 coffee date went?

 

No No Joey...I was just saying, that if I were coming out of pocket to take an escort overseas, I did not think that it would be necessary to pay him for his time while we discussed the trip over coffee. FreshFluff corrected me and said that the original OP was talking about a multi-hour hire, the trip abroad was something that was to come possibly at a later date.

 

If I were taking an escort to Greece or to the Islands of Seychelles, I would probably do a weekend hire first, just to make sure that we connected on all levels.

[Michael Wayne]

depending on my schedule and how busy I am at the time I would gladly meet and accept coffee or lunch on you with no hourly fee involved. Usually it is the CLIENT who is too busy for such a meeting. Most clients would prefer to schedule details via email or texting these days. Now just from the perspective of experience I will tell you this: in 9 out of 10 typical meetings like this it ENDS up being a session and I get paid. it is usually an ,"on site," interview aka an inspection. As a result when I agree to these things I always leave an hour open after , "coffee," for COCK!

[unsub2O17]

Juan seems to have a good take on this issue. In my mind, I figure that the first 10-15 minutes of any session is for getting a "first" first-hand knowledge of the escort, and, if it's good, then you've got the rest of the time for a "go". My problem is that once I commit to a session, I think (hasn't happened yet) that I'd have a very hard time backing out of it. I don't even like changing appointment times or dates once they're set--no matter how good the reason.

[Keenan]

The time to discuss business is before meeting the escort in my opinion. Time is money for the escort.

 

Keenan

I made contact with a well reviewed escort about the possibilities of a multihour hire, also possibly a future trip abroad. He seemed eager and enthusiastic with the idea. I then wrote and inquire about a possible coffee get together to brainstorm our plan,nail down the scene and get acquainted. He then proceeded to inform me that it would cost me to have this coffee meeting.

 

Like to get a sense what the board thinks. Is this normal or am I too naive to assume that taking time to discuss business over coffee should be part of the routine leading to the actual hire, and it should not involve $. Inquisitive mind wants to know!

[JoeyBryant]

in 9 out of 10 typical meetings like this it ENDS up being a session and I get paid. it is usually an ,"on site," interview aka an inspection. As a result when I agree to these things I always leave an hour open after , "coffee," for COCK!

 

That's where the hidden danger is. And it's lethal. Deadly. You end up getting only $200 when you should have gotten $500.

 

Because then, after the client busts that nut...so much for the multi-hour appointment next week. That's exactly what happened to me last week. A drink date 'interview' turned into dinner which turned into sex. What was supposed to happen was, meet the next day and THEN get paid for 4 or 5 hours worth of time. But since he'd already nutted the day before, his needs were fulfilled before it was destined to happen. And if you'd agreed to meet for lunch or drinks for free, 2 or 3 hours can go by and you're only getting $200. That's a pretty clever tactic on the part of the client. You don't want to be dumb enough to fall for that. Now, if by all means a person chooses to do that...fine. But just so you know, it's a form of negotiation. Pay for sex, but not for time. Up to you what you're charging for though.

 

I should have followed the usual, proper way of doing things for longer encounters. Meet only on the mutual agreed terms, and if things progress that's okay. Because you're already in the moment and no need to back out if things are going accordingly.

 

So for now on, no pre-appointment meetups. It's good business practice, but it rarely works in this business. It just pretty much throws a monkey wrench into the plans when doing so.

[EZEtoGRU]

I agree with the view that a client should be expected to pay for the time with the escort if he wants a coffee-focused pre-meet. The only exception I could see to this would be if the client and escort know each other really well (ie have had multiple prior transactions) and are meeting to discuss the specifics of say a 7-10 day international trip they will be doing together. In this case, I would not expect either the client or the escort to quibble over whether there is reimbursement for the one hour coffee meeting. However, for a client that is unknown to the escort, there should absolutely be compensation for a "pre-meeting".

[BostonPhil]

I love this question.

 

As with every single question in this forum, the right answer is: everyone does it differently and there is no right or wrong. So I am going to avoid this cope out and I am going to share my personal point of view:

 

I am in the wonderful business of spending time with people.

 

I use all my talents, my body, my interpersonal skills, my knowledge about different subjects, my personal experience, my emotional awareness, my sexual libido to provide a satisfying experience of companionship. I get paid for the time I spend with people. Many a time I engage in sexual contact with my clients, and many others that doesn't happen; we go for dinner, we go to the theatre, the opera, we go scuba diving, we travel the world together. There is no one way in which the time that I spend with my clients looks like.

 

If you ask me to spend time with you, for whatever reason, I will -excitedly, put all my expertise to make sure that that time is a fun time, and I will expect to be paid for it. The shortest appointment I accept is one hour. No exceptions.

 

Wanting an escort to spend time with you with the promise that you will hire him in the future is like asking a mechanic to fix your car for free with the proviso that if he does a good job you will bring him another car. When someone says that it is logical to meet an escort before the "big event" I think you are forgetting the fact that meeting the escort, the time he spends with you IS the big event. This is our job. Not sucking your cock, not the fisting; we do this because it's fun, because we are lascivious little tarts. Our job is meeting you, spending time with you.

 

 

 

I am all for cordial conversation! I agree that one has to be very careful in screening potential clients (and escorts) and one has to make sure that expectations are clear. I, like many of my colleagues, do this on the phone, at the time in which we are about to confirm a session. I would never meet anyone without first having this first cordial conversation. It starts the engines running, it is the first sexy spark of getting to know one another!

 

 

 

I am perfectly aware that this is the case. We are not supposed to be everyone's cup of tea. It would be ludicrous to assume that even Brad Pitt or the hottest person in the world would be desired by all and would have chemistry with everyone. That is why personally I offer that if the minute you opened the door you were not thrilled with what you saw; if you disliked my lisp, my goiter of if I reminded you of your late father; if for whatever reason you would want to not go ahead with the session, all you would need to do is say that this would not work out, and I would leave without enquiring about your motives or asking for any compensation.

 

No questions asked.

 

So, no; personally, I will not accept "social" invitations or auditions. I live by the certainty that you have every right to receive a fulfilling service from me and I have put in effect as many measures to ensure that it is so. Also I would be very unlikely to accept a trip to Europe based on a 15 minute free meet at Starbucks. In my experience, all the clients with whom I have travelled for long and short periods have approached the situation entirely different. Granted: there have been a few who have called me asking for a "tester", freebie of time, blow job, orgy, you name it, saying that they wanted to take me to Paris for two months, buy me a car, give me an apartment, buy the moon for me, you name it. Dumb ho that I am I have not agreed to giving them the tester. Only God knows what outrageous riches I have missed!

 

It takes all kinds. Some escorts love spending their free time with their clients. Some will jump at the opportunity of having an interview before a session, I am sure that some genuine traveling clients ask for interviews... I just wanted to share with you how I do things and the reason for which I do them that way. I hope this is somewhat elucidating.

 

Thank you so much for saving my fingers from having to type this. I could not have said it better myself.