Meeting potential hire over coffee, Are you expected to compensate escort?

[Juan Vancouver]

depending on my schedule and how busy I am at the time I would gladly meet and accept coffee or lunch on you with no hourly fee involved. Usually it is the CLIENT who is too busy for such a meeting. Most clients would prefer to schedule details via email or texting these days. Now just from the perspective of experience I will tell you this: in 9 out of 10 typical meetings like this it ENDS up being a session and I get paid. it is usually an ,"on site," interview aka an inspection. As a result when I agree to these things I always leave an hour open after , "coffee," for COCK!

 

Hey stud,

 

I am glad that this model works for you. It really takes all types and there are as many different ways to deal with this profession as people engaging in it. That is what makes escorting so delicious and exciting! As I said before I don't sell cock, I sell an experience of companionship, time spent with my clients. In the light of that, a meeting IS a session. I understand well that if the main event is cock then a meeting is just the prelude to the session. I am glad you are sharing this because it really does shed light on the subject from an entirely different perspective.

 

Keep them smiling, sexy!

[+ peterhung85]

WOOOOOW!

 

The topic seemed waaaay tooo familiar, glad I stopped by. So the "well reviewed escort" is actually me

Yes, this gentlemen got in touch with me via email told me about his situation and what his intentions are. We exchanged 10+ emails. Eventually, he asked me to meet him for free. This is not about talking over the details about a trip that WILL HAPPEN, but a trip that might happen. And about an hour hire that MIGHT happen in the future.

 

I told the gentleman, that I consider myself a professional escort and not in an egoistic way, but in a way, that this is what I do for living, therefore I expect to get compensated for the time we spend together. Then he told me that he - in his field of work - also meets clients and it is never sure that they will hire his services because he has to put work in advance and flatter his clients before he gets any kind of assignment. I eventually told him that it is quite harsh to compare our jobs, since this is a clear example of apples and oranges. I stated him that escorts get compensated for their times and not for the actual activities occoured. I told him that someone who truly wants to meet a person and in a lucky case take him to 2 different countries in Asia, takes the time (and money) to hire him beforehand to see if there is a match (just like all my clients who have ever taken me to trips before did)

 

I since then have not got an answer from him, but we all remained calm and polite to each other.

 

I wish this story would have had a better ending but it did not... (or have not)... we will see

 

All the best to everyone from Toronto

[JoeyBryant]

I told the gentleman, that I consider myself a professional escort and not in an egoistic way, but in a way, that this is what I do for living, therefore I expect to get compensated for the time we spend together.

 

In the future, you may want to consider a social arrangement rate for these kind of meetings. I'm not totally against meeting for drinks or coffee first. However, I have found that in most cases it usually hasn't worked out to meet in that way.

 

Realize too, you are being 'sized up' and only showing a window with clothes on. Take those clothes off...you're twice as attractive and things are programmed to go in the right direction.

[+ peterhung85]

sorry...

 

In the future, you may want to consider a social arrangement rate for these kind of meetings. I'm not totally against meeting for drinks or coffee first. However, I have found that in most cases it usually hasn't worked out to meet in that way.

 

Realize too, you are being 'sized up' and only showing a window with clothes on. Take those clothes off...you're twice as attractive and things are programmed to go in the right direction.

 

Dear Joey,

 

Maybe I was not clear enough: The client insisted on meeting for FREE! (That means No compensation, no money, nada, no dinero...) Hope this is more easy to understand

[JoeyBryant]

Dear Joey,

 

Maybe I was not clear enough: The client insisted on meeting for FREE! (That means No compensation, no money, nada, no dinero...) Hope this is more easy to understand

 

Again, in the future you may want to counter-offer a social agreement rate. So, you're not agreeing to meet for free, but you're also not turning down the appointment in it's entirety. I don't care how much they insist about meeting for free. I'll insist further that I have a social rate and/or deposit required if that were to happen.

 

You can try it out and see what happens...but like I mentioned already (and as you are so implying to me as well) it usually doesn't work out that way. Why? I don't know. It just doesn't. It's better to make an appointment, and offer to meet downstairs at the Martini bar to feel someone out rather than insist on meeting days prior to be sized up.

[jjkrkwood]

Dear Joey,

 

Maybe I was not clear enough: The client insisted on meeting for FREE! (That means No compensation, no money, nada, no dinero...) Hope this is more easy to understand

 

Maybe the guy compared you to a contractor and thought you would come out to give him a FREE estimate ? Who was gonna Pay for the coffee ?

[+ newatthis]

Maybe the guy compared you to a contractor and thought you would come out to give him a FREE estimate ? Who was gonna Pay for the coffee ?

Hey, this opens a whole new range of possibilities -- "I'd be happy to meet you over coffee and give you an estimate of how much I'll charge for an hour with you."

[jjkrkwood]

Hey, this opens a whole new range of possibilities -- "I'd be happy to meet you over coffee and give you an estimate of how much I'll charge for an hour with you."

 

Well as they say "One visual face-to-face is worth 1000 blowjobs"....

[+ peterhung85]

I guess we are not speaking the same language here Joey. No worries! (If the "suppose to be" client does not want to pay ANY rate and INSISTS meeting for free I can give him any social rate I feel like... IF HE WANTS TO MEET FOR FREE, YOU CAN SUGGEST WHATEVER YOU WANT )

 

Best Regards

 

Again, in the future you may want to counter-offer a social agreement rate. So, you're not agreeing to meet for free, but you're also not turning down the appointment in it's entirety. I don't care how much they insist about meeting for free. I'll insist further that I have a social rate and/or deposit required if that were to happen.

 

You can try it out and see what happens...but like I mentioned already (and as you are so implying to me as well) it usually doesn't work out that way. Why? I don't know. It just doesn't. It's better to make an appointment, and offer to meet downstairs at the Martini bar to feel someone out rather than insist on meeting days prior to be sized up.

[+ peterhung85]

Maybe the guy compared you to a contractor and thought you would come out to give him a FREE estimate ? Who was gonna Pay for the coffee ?

Good question... I will tell you once the coffee meeting ever happens

[+ VeryHappyCustomer]

When hiring employees for my company I distinguish between free and compensated activities. I think the same distinction is fair when hiring providers.

1 -- Phone screens are at our mutual convenience, and should be viewed as an opportunity for professional development and networking. The call is free.

2 -- In-person interviews are at *my* convenience. I pay for everything: transportation, hotel, meals, misc expenses and a day of "consulting".

[jjkrkwood]

When hiring employees for my company I distinguish between free and compensated activities. I think the same distinction is fair when hiring providers.

1 -- Phone screens are at our mutual convenience, and should be viewed as an opportunity for professional development and networking. The call is free.

2 -- In-person interviews are at *my* convenience. I pay for everything: transportation, hotel, meals, misc expenses and a day of "consulting".

 

Although escorting is a business, the only business I can compare it to would be modelling, where modells are sent out to potential clients on "Go Sees" at No charge to the client.

 

However, a modelling agency with large investors and backing can probably afford to supply NO CHARGE time, whereas a self employed escort CANNOT.... and really shouldnt be expected to. As we all know, there are alot of people that would engage the escorts FREE time with NO intention or ever hiring him. for some, sitting in a cafe having a drink with a HOT guy might be just enuf to Feed their fantasy and get them off.

[+ peterhung85]

Although escorting is a business, the only business I can compare it to would be modelling, where modells are sent out to potential clients on "Go Sees" at No charge to the client.

 

However, a modelling agency with large investors and backing can probably afford to supply NO CHARGE time, whereas a self employed escort CANNOT.... and really shouldnt be expected to. As we all know, there are alot of people that would engage the escorts FREE time with NO intention or ever hiring him. for some, sitting in a cafe having a drink with a HOT guy might be just enuf to Feed their fantasy and get them off.

 

Very true!

[rguer]

2 -- In-person interviews are at *my* convenience. I pay for everything: transportation, hotel, meals, misc expenses and a day of "consulting".

 

I've been on both sides of the interviewing table. When we interview, we pay expenses but not a consulting fee, and when I've been interviewed only my expenses were paid.

 

On the other hand, I've usually gotten (or my company has given) a signon bonus.

 

If you don't mind my asking, what general field are you in? Are you hiring consultants or full-time employees?

[bigvalboy]

WOOOOOW!

 

The topic seemed waaaay tooo familiar, glad I stopped by. So the "well reviewed escort" is actually me

Yes, this gentlemen got in touch with me via email told me about his situation and what his intentions are. We exchanged 10+ emails. Eventually, he asked me to meet him for free. This is not about talking over the details about a trip that WILL HAPPEN, but a trip that might happen. And about an hour hire that MIGHT happen in the future.

 

I told the gentleman, that I consider myself a professional escort and not in an egoistic way, but in a way, that this is what I do for living, therefore I expect to get compensated for the time we spend together. Then he told me that he - in his field of work - also meets clients and it is never sure that they will hire his services because he has to put work in advance and flatter his clients before he gets any kind of assignment. I eventually told him that it is quite harsh to compare our jobs, since this is a clear example of apples and oranges. I stated him that escorts get compensated for their times and not for the actual activities occoured. I told him that someone who truly wants to meet a person and in a lucky case take him to 2 different countries in Asia, takes the time (and money) to hire him beforehand to see if there is a match (just like all my clients who have ever taken me to trips before did)

 

I since then have not got an answer from him, but we all remained calm and polite to each other.

 

I wish this story would have had a better ending but it did not... (or have not)... we will see

 

All the best to everyone from Toronto

 

Well Peter it is a good thing that you stopped by. I thank you for clearing all this up for us. Until now we were just speculating here. In this situation however, you were completely correct. Sorry it did not workout for you, but then again, you just never know.

[robberbaron4u]

As by prior advisement, I offer a potential hire cocktails and luncheon or dinner at the restaurant of his choice with notice that the meeting is the "interview" and that monetary compensation for his time will not be forthcoming. With regard to your trip abroad, Scotty is available to carry your bags and he does have way with ticket agents and luggage handlers that will assure you attentive service. . .

[bigvalboy]

I offer a potential hire cocktails and luncheon or dinner at the restaurant of his choice

 

As always, you are a class act robber...

[jjkrkwood]

As by prior advisement, I offer a potential hire cocktails and luncheon or dinner at the restaurant of his choice with notice that the meeting is the "interview" and that monetary compensation for his time will not be forthcoming. With regard to your trip abroad, Scotty is available to carry your bags and he does have way with ticket agents and luggage handlers that will assure you attentive service. . .

 

Well I am available for only a few sliders at White Castle. Those little buns and the minced onion are THE BEST !

[+ peterhung85]

Thank you!

 

Well Peter it is a good thing that you stopped by. I thank you for clearing all this up for us. Until now we were just speculating here. In this situation however, you were completely correct. Sorry it did not workout for you, but then again, you just never know.

 

Dear Bigvalboy,

 

Thank you for your sweet post, I appreciate it. It is no big deal really! You have a wonderful day!

[LurkerSpeaks]

Just thought I would throw my two cents worth into the ring. I understand both sides of the coin here. Personally, I look at the "pre-meeting" as a form of advertising. Sometimes advertising works, sometimes it doesn't. I think the "pre-meet" can/could/should happen if, and only if, the time/place, etc can be worked out to be convenient for the escort. If any travel costs, etc are incurred by the escort to make it to the meeting, as well as the costs of coffee, dinner, etc, then those costs should most definitely be covered by the person who would be doing the hiring. But I do not agree with a "full price" hourly fee for a 15 minute meet and greet. Just my opinions.

[+ FreshFluff]

A few other threads that TopAsian99 started provide some interesting context.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?38460-fee-for-time (I think some of the people responding may have misunderstood what he was getting at.)

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?67629-what-is-fair

[Decatur Guy]

I tend to do one- or two-hour appointments. I feel like for those, good research in the reviews and a good phone conversation is enough. It would be presumptuous to expect a free pre-meet for something like that.

 

As for going off on a trip together, I would want one or two hourlong appointments minimum before doing that. In that case, that IS the interview!

 

Now I will say this to those escorts who would never consider meeting a regular forum member (not any ol' prospective client out of the blue, but a forum member whose posts your like) for lunch or coffee as our treat -- you might want to rethink that. Here's why:

 

A couple of months ago, an escort off the forum whose posts I enjoy was in town. I had just hired someone a week earlier, and I had no money for another hire in the budget at that time.

 

I called the escort and asked him if I could take him to lunch. I made it clear it was not a hiring situation -- I considered this one forum pal asking another forum pal visiting his city to meet and buy lunch, if we had mutually free time. I also made it clear that if he wanted to do this and a chance for an actual appointment came up, I'd expect him to cancel our lunch and take the appointment. But if he's going to be eating alone anyway, why not meet me?

 

His hotel was close to my place, and he agreed. We met and had a very nice lunch, chatting about this and that. No sex.

 

Well, flash forward to this past weekend. He's back in town, and I really shouldn't hire him because I'm on vacation next week. But I so much enjoyed the lunch and his company two months ago that I simply can't let the opportunity pass. So I hired him for an hour. (And plan to do so again).

 

So his decision to meet me as one forum member to another another led to an appointment for him later. I most likely wouldn't haven hired him last weekend because of my impending vacation if we had not met earlier. But the previous meeting pushed me over the edge. Just something to think about guys before you uniformly turn now any lunch- or dinner-only offer as a blanket policy ...

 

Bottom line is this: I'm a long, long, long way in my life before I'll spend $200 to $300 to watch another guy -- however hot he is and however golden the conversation -- eat food or drink coffee that I also paid for and then just go on my merry way. Sorry, that ain't happening.

[jawjateck]

I have never asked for a preliminary "off the clock" meet-and-greet, nor has an escort ever offered such. I have always considered a first-time hire as the interview for a future meeting or longer engagement.

[jjkrkwood]

Bottom line is this: I'm a long, long, long way in my life before I'll spend $200 to $300 to watch another guy -- however hot he is and however golden the conversation -- eat food or drink coffee that I also paid for and then just go on my merry way. Sorry, that ain't happening.

 

DG, I am in TOTAL agrrement with you, however, you know that this strange shit occurs, and different things turn diff people on. A guy perhaps not totally out of the closet could get sexual fulfillment by just sitting and gazing at a hot guy over coffee.? Maybe this is his BF experience ? Whatever the case, there is certainly a flavor to fit every taste, and it is up to the escort to decide what the flavor-du-jour IS !. If I am spending $300, I AM getting a cock in my mouth !

[cany10011]

I'm not sure what the point of meeting for coffee is. The deciding factor is whether or not there is good chemistry in bed. If so, hire him if he floats your book and looks presentable. I don't think talking about the trip over croissants would help. Plus, to echo other comments, i would never consider inviting anyone on such a lengthy trip that I wasn't planning on having fun with or have already some established sexual history. Sounds like to me, the OP was looking for a free consult (esp after 10 email exchanges).