What are your 'fatal flaws' that providers do...

[+ KensingtonHomo]

8 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Had there been some kind of miscommunication and he was expecting to bottom?? 😂.  I think you are right to try to play around it. I’ve been in situations where for whatever reason I wasn’t hard and if the client didn’t make an issue of it and we ‘played around it’ then so it transpired that I did get hard. Once it becomes ‘a problem’ then there’s virtually no chance of getting hard.

I believe he listed himself as a vers top. But we didn't expect him to bottom. It's hard to overstate just how weird it was that he would not come off his belly. I did contemplate taking him by a shoulder and rolling him over but that felt too aggressive. My husband and I are old enough to realize that sometimes desire and erections don't line up. But our main issue remained that he ignored it and neither of us wanted to say "Hey, dude, your dick isn't hard." 

12 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Once it becomes ‘a problem’ then there’s virtually no chance of getting hard.

Yes, I also find that if one guy loses his erection in a session, it's like yawning. Everyone else gets soft too. 

[Boeingboing]

Pardon me if this reply comes off a bit naive, but I’m thinking of my last professional massage when I answer this.

It was the second time I had been massaged by this guy, Tim. First time was impressive, he really worked out some knots and almost-frozen joints. He was quiet, but from what little he said I could tell he was strictly professional and was fine with that. It didn’t stop me from scheduling a repeat 10 days later.
 

That second time though? Oh boy. He still thoroughly worked those same knots, but talked more. I learned about his wife who lives in a far-off country because of her immigration status, but that he believes in our current immigration policies for others. He told me skeletal details of a screenplay he’s writing. Has he written one before? “No, but I watch a lot of movies.” I feel slightly bad being so judgy, but to me, he’s just slightly deranged. 
 

When it comes to the providers y’all have been discussing I would also cut the cord at drugs and poor hygiene. I’ve gone through with one guy who seemed out of it and didn’t really make the drug connection until reading about someone else’s experience here. Again, naive I guess…

[Chien Andalou]

I’ll add when they go off on some xxx rant. I met Alex Volkov (still hot, but all roided out). He started swooning about Elon Musk and how wonderful he was. I was glad I had already cum, because I lost any remaining interest at that point. Between the cost and the steroids, I would only have seen him once anyway. But I wanted another shower to wash the xxx off. 

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[jonasfoleson]

Odd conversation. 

Not speaking good English. Relying on google translate to communicate. I'm far from a technophobe or Luddite but we have mouths, layrnxs and tongues for a reason. we don't need a smartphone to communicate, and why even work in an English-speaking country if you cannot even know the language. You'd earn MORE without the evident languge barrier.

[Wings246]

29 minutes ago, jonasfoleson said:

Odd conversation. 

Not speaking good English. Relying on google translate to communicate.

Really?  What if that person is impeccably hot, reasonably priced, and checks all your boxes except for English fluency?  I agree that if he can't even carry out basic dialogues and has to rely on translation apps, then it will be a major turnoff for me too.  But what if the English is comprehensible with basic vocabulary and perhaps just some broken grammatical structures here and there?  Is that still unacceptable to you?

Oddly enough, on a separate note, I find certain foreign accents very erotic and arousing, especially when the accented and/or foreign words are uttered uncontrollably at the peak of activities.  That actually somewhat incentivizes me to learn his language to understand what he just says to me...... 😉

[jonasfoleson]

5 hours ago, Wings246 said:

Really?  What if that person is impeccably hot, reasonably priced, and checks all your boxes except for English fluency?  I agree that if he can't even carry out basic dialogues and has to rely on translation apps, then it will be a major turnoff for me too.  But what if the English is comprehensible with basic vocabulary and perhaps just some broken grammatical structures here and there?  Is that still unacceptable to you?

Oddly enough, on a separate note, I find certain foreign accents very erotic and arousing, especially when the accented and/or foreign words are uttered uncontrollably at the peak of activities.  That actually somewhat incentivizes me to learn his language to understand what he just says to me...... 😉

I don't care how the fuck they look. I don't like speaking through iphones or androids. it's unnatural. somebody's looks in general make no impression on me, bar physicality. if the come to an English-speaking country but are too lax or even arrogant in some cases to properly learn the lanugage, i won't go back to them, which is my prerogative. i've seen many escorts though who were foreign but still make an acceptable level of English. 

[Wings246]

3 minutes ago, jonasfoleson said:

speaking through iphones or androids.

Luckily, I still have not experienced this myself.  I'd be pissed if this happens to me too.

[ACluelessGent]

4 hours ago, jonasfoleson said:

I don't care how the fuck they look. I don't like speaking through iphones or androids. it's unnatural. somebody's looks in general make no impression on me, bar physicality. if the come to an English-speaking country but are too lax or even arrogant in some cases to properly learn the lanugage, i won't go back to them, which is my prerogative. i've seen many escorts though who were foreign but still make an acceptable level of English. 

Are you serious? He comes to work  for a few days or weeks and he has to learn the language? May I ask what other languages do you speak? French? Spanish? German?

[Aamir]

11 hours ago, jonasfoleson said:

Odd conversation. 

Not speaking good English. Relying on google translate to communicate. I'm far from a technophobe or Luddite but we have mouths, layrnxs and tongues for a reason. we don't need a smartphone to communicate, and why even work in an English-speaking country if you cannot even know the language. You'd earn MORE without the evident languge barrier.

You use your mouth and tounge for illegal activities. Yet you cast stones? Leave people's tongues alone. Mind your manners.  Your mother raised you better than this.  For shame.

[MscleLovr]

For me, the “fatal flaws’ are

• Poor hygiene - I don’t mind if it’s a hot day and a guy needs a quick shower, but anything more…
• Drug use - I threw out a man who once arrived with recreational drugs
• Not kissing - an essential part of foreplay that I always check straightaway
• Other misrepresentation - superb body in photos but not reality, not ready to bottom (I’m a top only), trying  to upsell 

[jonasfoleson]

22 hours ago, Aamir said:

You use your mouth and tounge for illegal activities. Yet you cast stones? Leave people's tongues alone. Mind your manners.  Your mother raised you better than this.  For shame.

lol. what a goofy fucking point. maybe say something more pertinent or logical. What law have i broken? by citing an opinion on a Web forum.

Edited 5 hours ago by jonasfoleson

[Aamir]

1 hour ago, jonasfoleson said:

lol. what a goofy fucking point. maybe say something more pertinent or logical. What law have i broken? by citing an opinion on a Web forum.

You pay men to shoot jizz in your eye. That's illegal. Heck, maybe you even let them poop in your mouth (no judgement). We each have a dozen dark dirty little secrets. I suspect humility will serve us better in the long run. Maybe you can find some allies among the non-English speaking. Because when The Eyes come to put you and me in the camps, we're going to need friends on the outside. Under His eye.

[DMonDude]

On 9/13/2026 at 5:38 PM, jonasfoleson said:

I don't care how the fuck they look. I don't like speaking through iphones or androids. it's unnatural. somebody's looks in general make no impression on me, bar physicality. if the come to an English-speaking country but are too lax or even arrogant in some cases to properly learn the lanugage, i won't go back to them, which is my prerogative. i've seen many escorts though who were foreign but still make an acceptable level of English. 

Is being such an asshole about it necessary though?

Have you learned the language of every country you've visited? Or even an "acceptable level" beyond basic greetings? Most people who feel this way definitely don't do that, they expect tourist areas/attractions to be in English for them or they use a translator for convenience. Very interesting double standard.

Edited 3 hours ago by DMonDude

[jonasfoleson]

1 hour ago, Aamir said:

You pay men to shoot jizz in your eye. That's illegal. Heck, maybe you even let them poop in your mouth (no judgement). We each have a dozen dark dirty little secrets. I suspect humility will serve us better in the long run. Maybe you can find some allies among the non-English speaking. Because when The Eyes come to put you and me in the camps, we're going to need friends on the outside. Under His eye.

you keep citing non sequiturs, mainly out of some negative desire to "scope" me. I wasn't raised in your cutlure, so I'm not party to that. I stand by my views, and experiences. Unlike you, I get the term "everybody has the right to an opinion". there is no subtext there.  I never mentioned jizzing in my eye, you cognitively limited oaf. ANd it's not even illegal in my country or many other countries. i have better times than to "engage" with those with cognitive limitatations.

 

[jonasfoleson]

1 hour ago, Aamir said:

You pay men to shoot jizz in your eye. That's illegal. Heck, maybe you even let them poop in your mouth (no judgement). We each have a dozen dark dirty little secrets. I suspect humility will serve us better in the long run. Maybe you can find some allies among the non-English speaking. Because when The Eyes come to put you and me in the camps, we're going to need friends on the outside. Under His eye.

sorry, but i still cannot decipher your points. It's your cognitive issues at play, or your culture since it's normal to say goofy and mentally constrained stuff to strangers. Or enlightened me when I emntioned scat? I don't believe I did. fuck off, cognitive issue man.