YngMotionXTrey in Pittsburgh

[JayCeeKy]

https://rentmen.eu/YngMotionXTrey

I probably should have said his $600-$700 fee was way over MY budget, but still, I  wasn't expecting this kind of response. He also Blocked me.

[BigK]

What a sweetheart!

[+ azdr0710]

everybody will have an opinion on this.....instead of even mentioning budgets and typical price ranges, etc., a client can just say, "thanks for the reply, but I'll pass for now....appreciate your time"

[JayCeeKy]

I appreciate the feedback regarding my brief exchange with this provider, but I would point out that simply replying with “Thanks… but I’ll pass for now” offers him no meaningful feedback as to why I chose not to hire him. I mentioned the $300 figure because that is, in fact, generally what I offer for this type of service.

Constructive feedback is especially important for someone like this gentleman, who I suspect may be relatively new to the business (both of his reviews are less than two months old) and may have unrealistic expectations about what most clients  -- at least in my experience — are actually willing to pay for the requested service, which typically is not in the $600–700+ range he appears to expect.

That said, the pricing issue is secondary. The primary reason I chose to share information about this particular provider was to alert our “company of men” to what appears to be his clear disdain for gay men, as evidenced by his repeated use (twice) of a term I consider highly demeaning -- made all the more concerning given the context in which he chose to use it in responding to me.

[56harrisond]

@JayCeeKy what services and duration did you request?

[builder boy]

Classy Guy.   

[+ Pensant]

you dodged an expensive bullet!

[Peter Eater]

“his clear disdain for gay men, as evidenced by his repeated use (twice) of a term I consider highly demeaning”

He identifies as “str8,” so homophobia is probably to be expected.

[BuffaloKyle]

10 hours ago, 56harrisond said:

@JayCeeKy what services and duration did you request?

I was interested to know as well since the response was "something like that would be 600-700"

If you were just asking for a one hour session for him to top you then I agree 600-700 is not reasonable.

[TJMS]

On the RM ad I am looking at he says he is "bisexual."

[guru68]

Hot pics, but yeah, the attitude is a turn-off.

[DMICS]

Both parties handled this wrong. 

OP was wrong with "I usually pay $300" bit. It comes off as bargaining and/or "lowballing." Could've just said the first part and thanked him. The provider rightfully blocked you.

The provider was also wrong with his vitriol after. 

[JayCeeKy]

55 minutes ago, DMICS said:

OP was wrong with "I usually pay $300" bit. It comes off as bargaining and/or "lowballing." Could've just said the first part and thanked him. The provider rightfully blocked you.

At the risk of belaboring an already moribund horse, it remains unclear to me whether you actually read my previous comment explaining why I did not simply respond with “Thanks, but no thanks,” so I will restate the point more plainly.

My principal objective was to make it clear to someone who appears to be significantly overvaluing his services that he may, in fact, be pricing himself out of the market entirely. Constructive feedback of that nature can be valuable, particularly when an individual seems disconnected from what the market is realistically prepared to bear. And yes, perhaps there was an element of "bargaining" on my part -- but negotiation and price discovery are hardly foreign concepts in business, nor do they constitute bad faith or improper conduct.

More broadly, I find it rather absurd to suggest that people should block one another on Rentmen simply because they fail to agree on price. If everyone adopted that approach, the platform itself would quickly become dysfunctional, reduced to little more than users reflexively blocking one another over routine disagreements about value.

A far more rational response from the provider would be to simply ignore an inquiry that does not meet his expectations or, better yet, recognize market realities and offer a compromise rate -- particularly if business happens to be slow. What is neither appropriate nor prudent, however, is responding with language widely understood to be derogatory, particularly when those words are inherently offensive to the very audience one purports to serve.

But then again, perhaps I simply operate under a different understanding of how rational adults -- and competent professionals -- conduct business.

[guru68]

I don't blame any provider for blocking someone that they have come to see (right or wrong) as a time waster for them. I know in general I get rather annoyed with people that I think are wasting my time. Yes, responding as he did was off-putting and not very professional. If nothing else, for the possibly of what happened - that his words could be shared and possibly color the perceptions of other prospective clients.

[DMICS]

34 minutes ago, JayCeeKy said:

At the risk of belaboring an already moribund horse, it remains unclear to me whether you actually read my previous comment explaining why I did not simply respond with “Thanks, but no thanks.”

I read it clearly. You wanted to "educate" when to some you came off as a jerk trying to bargain. 

While his rate is over my personal budget, seeing him quote $600 just off his appearance and not knowing what exactly was requested isn't a shock in this industry, in 2026. As I said both sides were wrong in the communication, moreso the provider. He shouldn't have replied at all and just blocked you. 

Societal behaviour has changed drastically post-pandemic in this digital, social media era we're currently amassed in. That's also reflected in this business as the newer, younger providers are joining. Most of them don't have the decorum, elite professionalism and respect that veteran clients would normally expect. 

When I started getting into this hobby I was taught in this forum by fellow members that your kind of response in the screenshot is frowned upon and it most cases will trigger at minimum getting blocked. 

So as you wanted to give some education to that provider, here's the education when it comes to dealing with some high-priced very young providers.

 

Edited Saturday at 09:24 PM by DMICS

[JayCeeKy]

It’s a bit surprising to me that gay men would direct more criticism at someone who merely suggested a lower rate in a business transaction — branding them a lowballing, time-wasting jerk who deserved to be blocked  — while offering only minimal criticism toward a provider who casually uses a hateful slur with what seems like clear disdain for the gay community.

[nomad]

16 minutes ago, JayCeeKy said:

It’s a bit surprising to me that gay men would direct more criticism at someone who merely suggested a lower rate in a business transaction — branding them a lowballing, time-wasting jerk who deserved to be blocked  — while offering only minimal criticism toward a provider who casually uses a hateful slur with what seems like clear disdain for the gay community.

I don't think your reply was inappropriate at all.  His shit response was completely.  Bullet dodged.  Better fish in the sea to catch.  Let someone else have the displeasure of his company.

[DMICS]

40 minutes ago, JayCeeKy said:

It’s a bit surprising to me that gay men would direct more criticism at someone who merely suggested a lower rate in a business transaction — branding them a lowballing, time-wasting jerk who deserved to be blocked  — while offering only minimal criticism toward a provider who casually uses a hateful slur with what seems like clear disdain for the gay community.

Did I not say both parties were wrong? 

YngMotionXTrey isn't on CoM, you are. So I'm going to speak directly to you giving my personal perspective about what happened. If YngMotionXTrey was a CoM member I'd be doing the same. And I'm not going to randomly message a provider I've had no prior contact with on RM talking about professionalism. 

This is not the REESEGOD situation from a few years back where the provider had knowledge of this forum where all the backlash of his vitriol towards a client forced him to reflect on his communication and be more respectful. 
 

Either way I’ll end it off here. 👍

Edited Saturday at 10:32 PM by DMICS