Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Have you guys ever left an encounter with a provider feeling cheated? Did they over promise and severely under delivered? I have an it's the worst feeling. + SidewaysDM and Danny-Darko 2
MarkBottom2025 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Was this for a massage or escorting service ? Why did u feel cheated?
Danny-Darko Posted January 4 Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, Reggyreg56 said: Have you guys ever left an encounter with a provider feeling cheated? Did they over promise and severely under delivered? I have an it's the worst feeling. You eventually get over it and chalk it up to a learning experience and know not to ever hire that person again under any circumstances no matter what they promise. What else can any of us do? + PhileasFogg, + SidewaysDM and + Pensant 2 1
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 44 minutes ago, MarkBottom2025 said: Was this for a massage or escorting service ? Why did u feel cheated? It was for a massage. He was absolutely terrible. A dog could have done a better job. I payed him upfront. Stupid of me I know. Lol + SidewaysDM and + Pensant 2
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 37 minutes ago, Danny-Darko said: You eventually get over it and chalk it up to a learning experience and know not to ever hire that person again under any circumstances no matter what they promise. What else can any of us do? That's true. You do get over it but you never forget! Lol + SidewaysDM 1
MarkBottom2025 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 @Reggyreg56 sorry for the bad experience. Yes live and learn on that one ! + SidewaysDM 1
marylander1940 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 51 minutes ago, Reggyreg56 said: Have you guys ever left an encounter with a provider feeling cheated? Did they over promise and severely under delivered? I have an it's the worst feeling. Elaborate! 6 minutes ago, Reggyreg56 said: It was for a massage. He was absolutely terrible. A dog could have done a better job. I payed him upfront. Stupid of me I know. Lol Did you find him on RM or rent masseur? He didn't even make an effort to massage you? Did you complain about it at the moment?
mtaabq Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Darling, it’s happened to all of us. Or most of us, anyway. Yes, it stinks. But you chalk it up to experience, you move on, and you’re more careful with your choices next time. Take a deep breath, let it out, then let it go. Dwelling on it is not going to make it any better. I’m sorry it happened to you. + SidewaysDM, + jimbosf and + Just Sayin 1 1 1
+ purplekow Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reggyreg56 said: Have you guys ever left an encounter with a provider feeling cheated? Did they over promise and severely under delivered? I have an it's the worst feeling. Were you cheated or were the requirements of the meeting poorly realized or not made clear. If you were cheated, there would have been intent to give an unsatisfactory encounter. Miscommunication from provider to client or vice versa is not cheating. Not to say that kind of experience is acceptable, but if there is no intent, then both parties ought to examine how they are interacting. Now if you were mislead about the providers capabilities to satisfactorily relay the desired service or he did not do what he promised with intent, then indeed you were cheated. Feeling cheated and being cheated are not always equivalent. Edited January 4 by purplekow
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 26 minutes ago, MarkBottom2025 said: @Reggyreg56 sorry for the bad experience. Yes live and learn on that one ! Yes, you're right! Lol
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 22 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Elaborate! Did you find him on RM or rent masseur? He didn't even make an effort to massage you? Did you complain about it at the moment? He wasn't on Rentmen. He was on Adam4Adam. Based on his personality complaining may have made the situation worse! Lol
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, purplekow said: Were you cheated or were the requirements of the meeting poorly realized or not made clear. If you were cheated, there would have been intent to give an unsatisfactory encounter. Miscommunication from provider to client or vice versa is not cheating. Not to say that kind of experience is acceptable, but if there is no intent, then both parties ought to examine how they are interacting. Now if you were mislead about the providers capabilities to satisfactorily relay the desired service or he did not do what he promised with intent, then indeed you were cheated. Feeling cheated and being cheated are not always equivalent. I was mislead about the provider's capabilities.
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 17 minutes ago, mtaabq said: Darling, it’s happened to all of us. Or most of us, anyway. Yes, it stinks. But you chalk it up to experience, you move on, and you’re more careful with your choices next time. Take a deep breath, let it out, then let it go. Dwelling on it is not going to make it any better. I’m sorry it happened to you. I appreciate that. I am better now than I was believe me. + Just Sayin and + m_writer 2
marylander1940 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 12 minutes ago, Reggyreg56 said: He wasn't on Rentmen. He was on Adam4Adam. Based on his personality complaining may have made the situation worse! Lol Sorry to hear that. Don't ever pay upfront! I would report him to Adam for Adam I am sure you wouldn't be the first one complaining about his services. He certainly doesn't like his job! + SidewaysDM 1
+ purplekow Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Reggyreg56 said: I was mislead about the provider's capabilities. That is unfortunate. Take home lessons to be learned from this but it does not make you feel any better about it happening at all. Sort of like when people tell you you are lucky to have survived an accident. Lucky is when you do not have the accident at all. + SidewaysDM 1
+ FrankR Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Reggyreg56 said: He wasn't on Rentmen. He was on Adam4Adam. Based on his personality complaining may have made the situation worse! Lol A4A in my experience is either fantastic or terrible. I have met real gems and the biggest time wasters. You will learn to identify the red flags after exchanging a few messages - move on and go find those gems! 😉 + SidewaysDM 1
Nightowl Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Sorry this happened to you. For me it happened once. Hired for a 90 minute erotic massage. The guy had no massage skills, no skill at erotic buildup, and apparently no knowledge of a man’s refractory period. Strictly rub and tug (and tug and tug and tug…). I felt cheated because I really wanted a good massage. The only good thing that happened was that he pulled his ad from Rmass shortly after, sparing anyone else from similar disappointment. + SidewaysDM 1
+ JamesB Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I’m sorry you went through that. It’s happened to most of us, so welcome to a club none of us really wanted to join. Try to treat it as a learning experience and move on. I’d also recommend searching this forum for threads on “red flags,” as they can be very helpful. And until you develop a solid vetting process of your own, you might want to stick with providers who are recommended here. Having a no deposit, no upfront payment rule is also a good guideline to follow. + SidewaysDM and + jimbosf 2
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 11 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Sorry to hear that. Don't ever pay upfront! I would report him to Adam for Adam I am sure you wouldn't be the first one complaining about his services. He certainly doesn't like his job! You're right. I didn't think about reporting him. Thanks!
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 58 minutes ago, JamesB said: I’m sorry you went through that. It’s happened to most of us, so welcome to a club none of us really wanted to join. Try to treat it as a learning experience and move on. I’d also recommend searching this forum for threads on “red flags,” as they can be very helpful. And until you develop a solid vetting process of your own, you might want to stick with providers who are recommended here. Having a no deposit, no upfront payment rule is also a good guideline to follow. Excellent advice! Thank you! + JamesB and + SidewaysDM 2
Reggyreg56 Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 12 hours ago, purplekow said: That is unfortunate. Take home lessons to be learned from this but it does not make you feel any better about it happening at all. Sort of like when people tell you you are lucky to have survived an accident. Lucky is when you do not have the accident at all. That's so true! Lol
TonyDown Posted January 5 Posted January 5 There was a thread on the worst massage ever, where the session was so awful I questioned how he was able to maintain clients. I agree with the above, to chalk it up to experience.
maninsoma Posted January 5 Posted January 5 While I agree that paying up front is never wise, I also don't think that the suggestion that this can allow someone to withhold payment after a session has completed is ethically wrong. If you get on someone's table and he has no skills, then get up relatively quickly, tell him you aren't satisfied with his skills, pay a portion of the fee and leave. If you stay, however, and endure whatever the provider has to give then you should pay the agreed-upon rate. When it comes to the "extras," that's where it can get more murky. If you really want the extras, it's best to just hire an escort. If you want specific extras but want them from someone advertising as a masseur, it's best to clearly address expectations up front so you can focus your hiring on guys who are willing to give you what you want.
Reggyreg56 Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 7 hours ago, TonyDown said: There was a thread on the worst massage ever, where the session was so awful I questioned how he was able to maintain clients. I agree with the above, to chalk it up to experience. Yes you're right. I will try to do that, thanks!
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