*Late Night TV takes another hit

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

2 hours ago, Alpha714 said:

The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal. Fox News may have have higher numbers in the daypart but their audience is way older. As someone who has spent a good amount of his career involved in network television, it is all about reaching the target audience who has the greatest buying power. XXXX

*Please keep politics out of your message. 

Here's a reality check. According to the most recent quarterly Nielsen's (2Q25):

Colbert: 2.417 million total viewers - 219, 000 key 18-49 demo
Kimmel: 1.772 million total viewers - 220, 000 key 18-49 demo
Fallon:   1.188 million total viewers - 157, 000 key 18-49 demo
Gutfeld: 3.289 million total viewers - 238, 000 key 18-49 demo

Late Night Ratings Revealed: Who's Top & Who's Lagging Behind?

WWW.TVINSIDER.COM

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One host has made huge gains year-on-year.

As is now obvious, Gutfeld smashed Kimmel in total viewership, and beat him in the so-called "key demo" of 18-49 year olds. If if you really are someone who "has spent a good amount of his career in network television', you must know that Neilsen is the GOLD standard when it comes to TV ratings. If you have info to show that Nielsen is incorrect, please post it. Also, since Gutfeld is a non-network station, it has a smaller universe of potential viewers.
Touché.

BTC
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[viewing ownly]

16 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Here's a reality check. According to the most recent quarterly Nielsen's (2Q25):

Colbert: 2.417 million total viewers - 219, 000 key 18-49 demo
Kimmel: 1.772 million total viewers - 220, 000 key 18-49 demo
Fallon:   1.188 million total viewers - 157, 000 key 18-49 demo
Gutfeld: 3.289 million total viewers - 238, 000 key 18-49 demo

Late Night Ratings Revealed: Who's Top & Who's Lagging Behind?

WWW.TVINSIDER.COM

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One host has made huge gains year-on-year.

As is now obvious, Gutfeld smashed Kimmel in total viewership, and beat him in the so-called "key demo" of 18-49 year olds. If if you really are someone who "has spent a good amount of his career in network television', you must know that Neilsen is the GOLD standard when it comes to TV ratings. If you have info to show that Nielsen is incorrect, please post it. Also, since Gutfeld is a non-network station, it has a smaller universe of potential viewers.
Touché.

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Your ratings list means nothing in the overall scope of things, as you've shown them multiple times. What is being pointed out to you is that me and MULTI-MILLIONS of people do not sit down and watch these shows to report to Nielsen, but watch highlights of the shows that interest us on YouTube. So this is where your back-patting data becomes flawed and moot.

When you take into account views on the Internet of these four talk show hosts, Gutfeld goes from first to worst. Next to nobody cares to watch him on the Internet, which is why so many people have no idea who he is, until he went on Jimmy Fallon and brought his war chest of viewers with him that one night. 

How as you mention does Gutfeld have a "smaller universe of viewers"? The percentage of people with rabbit ears in 2025 rivals the amount of people who watch Gutfeld clips on YouTube. There isn't a cable or satellite provider in the USA that doesn't carry FOX News. I pat myself on the back for not putting that channel in quotes. 😊

[Rod Hagen]

He may be too focused on Trump, but Kimmel is objectively funny. Arguing he isn't because you don't like him is dumb.  I dislike Trump, yet I'd never deny he's charming and funny.  "Shithole Countries" Who says that?!  It's terrible, and 8 years later I'm still chuckling at that frankness and disregard mixed with vulgarity. :-)

Edited Saturday at 03:26 PM by Rod Hagen

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

9 minutes ago, viewing ownly said:

.When you take into account views on the Internet of these four talk show hosts, Gutfeld goes from first to worst. .

Care to back that comment up with statistics from a non-biased source?

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[Alpha714]

It should be noted that Gutfeld and the network late night talk shows do not start and end at the same time. The Nielsen ratings quoted attribute the time for Gutfeld as 10pm  where as Kimmel and the rest of the network shows are attributed to 11:35pm. There is quite a difference in the universe of people watching television between those two time periods. When looking at social media platforms that bring true late night reach into focus, the description of “horrible ratings” given to JK is very inaccurate

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

9 minutes ago, Alpha714 said:

It should be noted that Gutfeld and the network late night talk shows do not start and end at the same time. The Nielsen ratings quoted attribute the time for Gutfeld as 10pm  where as Kimmel and the rest of the network shows are attributed to 11:35pm. There is quite a difference in the universe of people watching television between those two time periods. When looking at social media platforms that bring true late night reach into focus, the description of “horrible ratings” given to JK is very inaccurate

"The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal."

This is YOUR quote. Care to back it up with an unbiased source? 

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[viewing ownly]

3 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

"The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal."

This is YOUR quote. Care to back it up with an unbiased source? 

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View counts are able to be seen by all. That's your source. And, no, view counts are not "biased", just an accurate measure of the popularity of what is watched. If you want to take the time to use simple math to add up the total of views these late-night guys you don't find to be funny compared to the one guy you find funny that I don't at all, my point is proven.

Moderator, this is now "dead horse beaten to an unrecognizable, dental records needed" level. Lock.

[Simon Suraci]

On 9/19/2025 at 9:29 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

They absolutely were about his ratings.
And unless you were sitting in on the meetings that the execs at Nexstar, Sinclair, ABC, and Disney had, then you are only speculating. And your speculation is baseless.

leadership that can’t handle criticism.

This has nothing to do with criticism. It has to do with a low-ratings, no-talent loudmouth with an inflated sense of self worth getting on the public airwaves and spreading lies.

You also were not in the boardroom, so your statements, too, are speculation.

Here is the basis I used to speculate, using critical reasoning skills to examine the facts and arrive at a conclusion.

Timing:

Canceling the show occurred immediately after public and private backlash to the episode content. The timing suggests pulling the show was in response to the backlash. 

Motives: 

Nexstar is trying to buy another conglomerate to gain access to an outsize market share of American audiences. The FCC regulates that no single entity can own TV stations reaching more than 40% of the public. The deal would give them double that cap: 80% of market share. Nexstar needs the FCC to lift these restrictions to allow Nexstar’s otherwise unlawful acquisition to proceed. The FCC, therefore, has significant leverage over media corporations like Nexstar to make demands and concessions in exchange for more favorable, if not illegal, media company dealmaking. 

Influences: 

Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC, said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way", referring to actions ABC could take regarding late-night host Jimmy Kimmel. Carr’s mob boss style coercion and intimidation tactics almost certainly influenced the media company’s decisions. I need not mention where Carr’s loyalties lie to connect the dots, but I will add this obvious implication to make it plain.

Given the recent history of people in power pressuring CBS to cancel The Colbert Report, the top of the movement has enormous influence. Jimmy Kimmel Live is the next of perhaps many pins to fall. Anyone that dare point out plain facts in a comedic manner risks damaging a fragile ego, and being pressured from said ego to be cancelled/fired/silenced.

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On what basis did you form your own conclusions?

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With regard to “lies”

There is no evidence to support claims that Jimmy Kimmel lied about anything on his last show, given the circumstances and information available at the time. Any evidence you have, please share. Opinions are not evidence.

Speculation is not “lying”, especially not speculation presented in a comedic manner designed to provoke contemplation and challenge the viewer to do their own investigation of the facts from credible sources, and arrive at their own conclusions.

Some say the shooter was an alt-right extremist unhappy with Charlie Kirk’s views, perhaps in the shooter’s sphere of thought, not far right enough. Others speculate the shooter has left leaning ideas. Without more concrete evidence, or a trial to find all the facts, I don’t know that anyone can say for sure what was going on in the shooter’s head when he decided to murder someone who, at first pass, aligned more closely with his family’s beliefs and worldview than someone on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

[Km411]

After significant public pressure, Disney has allowed Jimmy Kimmel back on air. In a new statement, Disney writes: “Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country.  It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive.  We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday."
 

Wait, I thought the show was suspended because of poor ratings?!

[+ Travis69]

BREAKING NEWS.  BREAKING NEWS.  THE JIMMY KIMMEL SHOW WILL RETURN TUESDAY NIGHT.

[+ EVdude]

23 hours ago, Km411 said:

Wait, I thought the show was suspended because of poor ratings?!

His ratings on Tuesday may be a tad better!

Edited 20 minutes ago by EVdude

[BuffaloKyle]

I'm curious to see how many stations, if any, choose not to air his show on Tuesday.

[Simon Suraci]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloKyle said:

I'm curious to see how many stations, if any, choose not to air his show on Tuesday.

Sinclair will not. They said they won’t until Kimmel apologizes and donates to Turning Point. Hell would freeze over first. Kimmel has been sticking to his principles, not something we can say of many others in the current moment.

A lot of folks, especially the under 50 and under 40 crowd, do not view shows like Kimmel’s live on TV anymore. Millennials like you (BuffaloKyle) and I tend to watch on YouTube and other outlets where the content is viewable on demand, at the convenience of the watcher, with minimal ads, and sometimes without ads. Few of us are staying up and tuning in at the moment the show is broadcast on traditional television. A lot of us don’t even have traditional television anymore.

TV ratings do not reflect the true reach and influence of shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live. Sinclair can choose not to air, but that won’t stop the people in those broadcast areas from accessing the content. It’s all available online.

Applause to Kimmel, various celebrities, entertainment unions, and others, for standing up for free speech! We can never truly live as free people in a society where the state either controls or polices the media. Rand Paul, and even Ted Cruz, of all people, spoke with clarity about the plain reality of what happens when the proverbial tables are turned. One core value all true American patriots (regardless of party) share is the right to, and unwavering protection of, free speech. This time, true American values win.

Now that we get a peek inside the boardroom, we can see that apparently Bozo was wrong about the executives’ motives. Linking the following article discussing what really went down, and why. From the article:

"Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country," the statement says. 

"It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday."

[KeepItReal]

The bottom line speaks. Consumers (like me!)  cancelled their subscriptions, unions stepped up and industry insiders were vocal about not working with Disney/ABC. Disney share price started to drop and analysts became concerned about revenue and growth. Capitalism, yeah baby! 

[BuffaloKyle]

You were right @Simon Suraci. Sinclair has said they will be preempting his show still. Nexstar had no comment yet. I looked if either owns my ABC station in Buffalo and neither do.

Edited 19 hours ago by BuffaloKyle

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

The Sinclair Broadcast Group announced Monday that it will not air Jimmy Kimmel's late-night return Tuesday night across its dozens of ABC affiliates until "formal discussions" are held with the network regarding "professionalism and accountability."

Further, Sinclair is calling on Kimmel to apologize to the family of Charlie Kirk. 

Sinclair issued a statement hours after ABC parent company Disney announced "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" would return from hiatus Tuesday night. Disney yanked his show last week over comments regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.

"Sinclair will not lift the suspension of 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' on our stations until formal discussions are held with ABC regarding the network's commitment to professionalism and accountability,' 

"Sinclair also calls on upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA.

"Regardless of ABC's plans for the future of the program, Sinclair intends not to return 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to our air until we are confident that appropriate steps have been taken to uphold the standards expected of a national broadcast platform."

Sinclair owns 38 ABC affiliates. That's 20% of ABC stations. Kimmel's ratings were already in the toilet. Without Sinclair, it will soon be economically unfeasible for ABC to continue to carry his program. And if Nexstar also decides not to air the Kimmel Show, that will be the nail in the proverbial coffin. Meanwhile, Kimmel will be on a very, very short leash.

Thank you Sinclair for your commitment to professionalism, accountability and upholding moral standards..

BTC
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[mike carey]

Snow in summer? Or is it just a few snowflakes?

[marylander1940]

49 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 

Thank you Sinclair for your commitment to professionalism, accountability and upholding moral standards..

BTC
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Hopefully other public figures will start behaving that way! Unfortunately, it's pretty bias!

[KeepItReal]

If you missed John Oliver's show last night on HBO - take the time to watch it. Historical context is interesting. 

 

https://youtu.be/ohPToBog_-g

[+ Travis69]

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

The Sinclair Broadcast Group announced Monday that it will not air Jimmy Kimmel's late-night return Tuesday night across its dozens of ABC affiliates until "formal discussions" are held with the network regarding "professionalism and accountability."

Further, Sinclair is calling on Kimmel to apologize to the family of Charlie Kirk. 

Sinclair issued a statement hours after ABC parent company Disney announced "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" would return from hiatus Tuesday night. Disney yanked his show last week over comments regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.

"Sinclair will not lift the suspension of 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' on our stations until formal discussions are held with ABC regarding the network's commitment to professionalism and accountability,' 

"Sinclair also calls on upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA.

"Regardless of ABC's plans for the future of the program, Sinclair intends not to return 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to our air until we are confident that appropriate steps have been taken to uphold the standards expected of a national broadcast platform."

Sinclair owns 38 ABC affiliates. That's 20% of ABC stations. Kimmel's ratings were already in the toilet. Without Sinclair, it will soon be economically unfeasible for ABC to continue to carry his program. And if Nexstar also decides not to air the Kimmel Show, that will be the nail in the proverbial coffin. Meanwhile, Kimmel will be on a very, very short leash.

Thank you Sinclair for your commitment to professionalism, accountability and upholding moral standards..

BTC
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[Km411]

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Thank you Sinclair for your commitment to professionalism, accountability and upholding moral standards..

Kimmel doesn’t need ABC or the Sinclair affiliates; Kimmel is the platform. And Sinclair could take a lesson from Kimmel on professionalism, accountability, and moral standards.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

10 hours ago, Km411 said:

Kimmel doesn’t need ABC or the Sinclair affiliates; 

Actually, he does need them if he wants to continue getting his 17 million dollar paycheck for being a ratings-challenged, no-talent loser.

BTC
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[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

11 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

You were right @Simon Suraci. Sinclair has said they will be preempting his show still. Nexstar had no comment yet. I looked if either owns my ABC station in Buffalo and neither do.

That's unfortunate. There are 38 ABC affiliates that should celebrate the fact that a lying idiot won't be polluting their airwaves. The list include Seattle, St. Louis, Wash DC, and Portland. As an alternative, the folks that like him could watch water boil at 11:30 PM and be better entertained.

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[+ sync]

30 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Actually, he does need them if he wants to continue getting his 17 million dollar paycheck for being a ratings-challenged, no-talent loser.

BTC
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His paycheck will probably increase from ABC's about-face.

[+ MikeThomas]

Glad to see Kimmel's coming back.  ABC backed down.  Now I can restart my Hulu and Disney+ subscription and finish this season's OMITB!