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2 hours ago, Alpha714 said:

The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal. Fox News may have have higher numbers in the daypart but their audience is way older. As someone who has spent a good amount of his career involved in network television, it is all about reaching the target audience who has the greatest buying power. XXXX

*Please keep politics out of your message. 

Here's a reality check. According to the most recent quarterly Nielsen's (2Q25):

Colbert: 2.417 million total viewers - 219, 000 key 18-49 demo
Kimmel: 1.772 million total viewers - 220, 000 key 18-49 demo
Fallon:   1.188 million total viewers - 157, 000 key 18-49 demo
Gutfeld: 3.289 million total viewers - 238, 000 key 18-49 demo

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One host has made huge gains year-on-year.

As is now obvious, Gutfeld smashed Kimmel in total viewership, and beat him in the so-called "key demo" of 18-49 year olds. If if you really are someone who "has spent a good amount of his career in network television', you must know that Neilsen is the GOLD standard when it comes to TV ratings. If you have info to show that Nielsen is incorrect, please post it. Also, since Gutfeld is a non-network station, it has a smaller universe of potential viewers.
Touché.

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16 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Here's a reality check. According to the most recent quarterly Nielsen's (2Q25):

Colbert: 2.417 million total viewers - 219, 000 key 18-49 demo
Kimmel: 1.772 million total viewers - 220, 000 key 18-49 demo
Fallon:   1.188 million total viewers - 157, 000 key 18-49 demo
Gutfeld: 3.289 million total viewers - 238, 000 key 18-49 demo

WWW.TVINSIDER.COM

One host has made huge gains year-on-year.

As is now obvious, Gutfeld smashed Kimmel in total viewership, and beat him in the so-called "key demo" of 18-49 year olds. If if you really are someone who "has spent a good amount of his career in network television', you must know that Neilsen is the GOLD standard when it comes to TV ratings. If you have info to show that Nielsen is incorrect, please post it. Also, since Gutfeld is a non-network station, it has a smaller universe of potential viewers.
Touché.

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Your ratings list means nothing in the overall scope of things, as you've shown them multiple times. What is being pointed out to you is that me and MULTI-MILLIONS of people do not sit down and watch these shows to report to Nielsen, but watch highlights of the shows that interest us on YouTube. So this is where your back-patting data becomes flawed and moot.

When you take into account views on the Internet of these four talk show hosts, Gutfeld goes from first to worst. Next to nobody cares to watch him on the Internet, which is why so many people have no idea who he is, until he went on Jimmy Fallon and brought his war chest of viewers with him that one night. 

How as you mention does Gutfeld have a "smaller universe of viewers"? The percentage of people with rabbit ears in 2025 rivals the amount of people who watch Gutfeld clips on YouTube. There isn't a cable or satellite provider in the USA that doesn't carry FOX News. I pat myself on the back for not putting that channel in quotes. 😊

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He may be too focused on Trump, but Kimmel is objectively funny. Arguing he isn't because you don't like him is dumb.  I dislike Trump, yet I'd never deny he's charming and funny.  "Shithole Countries" Who says that?!  It's terrible, and 8 years later I'm still chuckling at that frankness and disregard mixed with vulgarity. :-)

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It should be noted that Gutfeld and the network late night talk shows do not start and end at the same time. The Nielsen ratings quoted attribute the time for Gutfeld as 10pm  where as Kimmel and the rest of the network shows are attributed to 11:35pm. There is quite a difference in the universe of people watching television between those two time periods. When looking at social media platforms that bring true late night reach into focus, the description of “horrible ratings” given to JK is very inaccurate

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9 minutes ago, Alpha714 said:

It should be noted that Gutfeld and the network late night talk shows do not start and end at the same time. The Nielsen ratings quoted attribute the time for Gutfeld as 10pm  where as Kimmel and the rest of the network shows are attributed to 11:35pm. There is quite a difference in the universe of people watching television between those two time periods. When looking at social media platforms that bring true late night reach into focus, the description of “horrible ratings” given to JK is very inaccurate

"The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal."

This is YOUR quote. Care to back it up with an unbiased source? 

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3 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

"The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal."

This is YOUR quote. Care to back it up with an unbiased source? 

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View counts are able to be seen by all. That's your source. And, no, view counts are not "biased", just an accurate measure of the popularity of what is watched. If you want to take the time to use simple math to add up the total of views these late-night guys you don't find to be funny compared to the one guy you find funny that I don't at all, my point is proven.

Moderator, this is now "dead horse beaten to an unrecognizable, dental records needed" level. Lock.

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On 9/19/2025 at 9:29 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

They absolutely were about his ratings.
And unless you were sitting in on the meetings that the execs at Nexstar, Sinclair, ABC, and Disney had, then you are only speculating. And your speculation is baseless.

leadership that can’t handle criticism.

This has nothing to do with criticism. It has to do with a low-ratings, no-talent loudmouth with an inflated sense of self worth getting on the public airwaves and spreading lies.

You also were not in the boardroom, so your statements, too, are speculation.

Here is the basis I used to speculate, using critical reasoning skills to examine the facts and arrive at a conclusion.

Timing:

Canceling the show occurred immediately after public and private backlash to the episode content. The timing suggests pulling the show was in response to the backlash. 

Motives: 

Nexstar is trying to buy another conglomerate to gain access to an outsize market share of American audiences. The FCC regulates that no single entity can own TV stations reaching more than 40% of the public. The deal would give them double that cap: 80% of market share. Nexstar needs the FCC to lift these restrictions to allow Nexstar’s otherwise unlawful acquisition to proceed. The FCC, therefore, has significant leverage over media corporations like Nexstar to make demands and concessions in exchange for more favorable, if not illegal, media company dealmaking. 

Influences: 

Brendan Carr, the chairman of the FCC, said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way", referring to actions ABC could take regarding late-night host Jimmy Kimmel. Carr’s mob boss style coercion and intimidation tactics almost certainly influenced the media company’s decisions. I need not mention where Carr’s loyalties lie to connect the dots, but I will add this obvious implication to make it plain.

Given the recent history of people in power pressuring CBS to cancel The Colbert Report, the top of the movement has enormous influence. Jimmy Kimmel Live is the next of perhaps many pins to fall. Anyone that dare point out plain facts in a comedic manner risks damaging a fragile ego, and being pressured from said ego to be cancelled/fired/silenced.

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On what basis did you form your own conclusions?

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With regard to “lies”

There is no evidence to support claims that Jimmy Kimmel lied about anything on his last show, given the circumstances and information available at the time. Any evidence you have, please share. Opinions are not evidence.

Speculation is not “lying”, especially not speculation presented in a comedic manner designed to provoke contemplation and challenge the viewer to do their own investigation of the facts from credible sources, and arrive at their own conclusions.

Some say the shooter was an alt-right extremist unhappy with Charlie Kirk’s views, perhaps in the shooter’s sphere of thought, not far right enough. Others speculate the shooter has left leaning ideas. Without more concrete evidence, or a trial to find all the facts, I don’t know that anyone can say for sure what was going on in the shooter’s head when he decided to murder someone who, at first pass, aligned more closely with his family’s beliefs and worldview than someone on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

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