*Late Night TV takes another hit

[marylander1940]

16 minutes ago, BSR said:

Kimmel’s ratings were dismal, 1.1 million vs. 2.8 million for Colbert and 3.1 million for Greg Gutfeld (the first two are on broadcast networks whereas Gutfeld’s on cable).  We know that Colbert’s show was losing $40 million a year despite higher ratings.  I can only imagine how many $millions Kimmel’s was losing.  That’s not censorship.  That’s capitalism.

The only reason he was fired yesterday was because of his company was threatened! 

That's not capitalism, that's not rule of law, that's mob style blackmail and state sponsored censorship! 

Kimmel is worth around 50 million, he'll be fine! 

 

Edited Friday at 01:10 AM by marylander1940

[Simon Suraci]

2 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Truth matters.

This is exactly why we need truth tellers like Kimmel to fill a jester role in our society.

[BSR]

53 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

This is exactly why we need truth tellers like Kimmel to fill a jester role in our society.

This is exactly why we need propaganda parrots like Kimmel to fill a jester role in our society.

There, I fixed it for you.

[+ FrankR]

5 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

This is exactly why we need truth tellers like Kimmel to fill a jester role in our society.

Recent actions prove that mockery hurts the shameless liars. We need more of them. 

[Simon Suraci]

4 hours ago, BSR said:

propaganda parrots

I disagree. The intent of propaganda isn’t to invite questioning, but to produce compliance and unity around a message by using emotional appeals, simplified narratives, and repetition rather than evidence-based reasoning. This approach discourages analysis and nuance. 

Late night shows employ satire, not propaganda. The show’s writers write the jokes, while the entertainer executes delivery. This small group of people does not a powerful cabal make.

Satire uses humor, irony, exaggeration, mockery, or ridicule to expose and critique flaws in human behavior, social norms, and cultural institutions. Satire seeks to inspire awareness and critical thinking; it entertains while urging people to look deeper at what’s really going on. Critical thinking introduces doubt, nuance, and alternative perspectives.

Satire does not tell people what to think, but rather invites them to question what the powerful in society are telling them to think. The power structures here are not a handful of late night show writers, producers or entertainers. The shows are punching up by poking fun at those in power who would tell us what to think.

The key difference between satire and propaganda is whether the communicator wants the audience to think for themselves or to submit to a message. In late night TV, the entertainers want the audience to think for themselves. Jokes, in this medium, are the vehicle to get people to do so.

With regard to parroting: late night TV shows come up with their own original creative material. They do mock, but they are not regurgitating, mimicking, or copying anything.

[mike carey]

To add to what @Simon Suraci said, satire builds on a narrative of what it critiques, but that narrative us usually a big picture that goes further than the individual elements that form part of it. Disproving, or calling out a lie in one small part does not necessarily debunk the entire narrative. Necessarily is the key word. Some things depend on the validity of every component. Narratives that tell a big story, whether for it to be satirised or merely revealed, are more like a jigsaw puzzle. Take out one piece and the picture is still clear. To mix metaphors, not every stone is a keystone.

[+ sync]

Question:  If

@BOZO T CLOWN 

• "Kimmel had lousy ratings and was losing $$$."
• "Too bad for Kimmel that even the half of the country he didn't alienate            didn't bother to tune into his 60-minute snoozefest."
• "Even some of his more loyal fans didn't want to listen to his nonsense before bedtime or while having sex."
• "Celebrity Family Feud will be shown on ABC stations at 11:30 tonight and for the indefinite future (and almost certainly will have higher ratings than the Jimmy Kimmel Show)."

and

@BSR 

• "Kimmel’s ratings were dismal, 1.1 million vs. 2.8 million for Colbert and 3.1 million for Greg Gutfeld"

why was it so important for some with differing opinions to go to extraordinary lengths to suppress his freedom of speech?

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

9 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

This is exactly why we need truth tellers...

We do need truth tellers. Kimmel is NOT one of them.  He is a pathological liar. The remarks that got him canned were lies. And when he made the comments, he knew they were lies. If you don't believe Bozo, 

• ask Nexstar
• ask Sinclair Broadcasting
• ask ABC
• ask Disney

Liars don't get rewarded with 17 million paychecks.

BTC
🤡

 

[marylander1940]

8 hours ago, BSR said:

This is exactly why we need propaganda parrots like Kimmel to fill a jester role in our society.

There, I fixed it for you.

If you don't like a comedian, don't watch him, do something else

This culture of censorship/cancellation is damaging free speech! 

Let's stop playing the victim card when someone makes a joke we don't like. 

[marylander1940]

8 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

We do need truth tellers. Kimmel is NOT one of them.  He is a pathological liar. The remarks that got him canned were lies. And when he made the comments, he knew they were lies. If you don't believe Bozo, 

• ask Nexstar
• ask Sinclair Broadcasting
• ask ABC
• ask Disney

Liars don't get rewarded with 17 million paychecks.

BTC
🤡

 

He's a comedian who makes jokes based on reality! He's not a journalist, he makes jokes!

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

.

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

He's a comedian who makes jokes based on reality! He's not a journalist, he makes jokes!

A comedian who makes jokes? Really? Please explain what part of  his "joke" about a 31-year old, murdered by an assassin's bullet in front of thousands of people, including his wife and young children, you found to be funny? 
Kimmel's employers are paying for a late night COMEDY show. Kimmel is NOT funny. Perhaps you considered his comments funny. Most rational people found them to be disgusting and repulsive.
Kimmel is stupid. Kimmel is a pathological liar. Kimmel is mean. His employers will make a lot more money airing Celebrity Family Feud at 11:30.
Jimmy Kimmel has only himself to blame for his show's cancellation. Nexstar, Sinclair, ABC, and Disney are not in the business of subsidizing a no-talent, mean-spirited, ratings-challenged liar.

 

              

            NOT funny - LOW Ratings                                            FUNNY - HIGH Ratings

 

BTC
🤡

Edited Friday at 12:22 PM by BOZO T CLOWN

[marylander1940]

9 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

.

A comedian who makes jokes? Really? Please explain what part of  his "joke" about a 31-year old, murdered by an assassin's bullet in front of thousands of people, including his wife and young children, you found to be funny? 
Kimmel's employers are paying for a late night COMEDY show. Kimmel is NOT funny. Perhaps you considered his comments funny. Most rational people found them to be disgusting and repulsive.
Kimmel is stupid. Kimmel is a pathological liar. Kimmel is mean. His employers will make a lot more money airing Celebrity Family Feud at 11:30.
Jimmy Kimmel has only himself to blame for his show's cancellation. Nexstar, Sinclair, ABC, and Disney are not in the business of subsidizing a no-talent, mean-spirited, ratings-challenged liar.

 

              

            FUNNY - High Ratings                                            NOT funny - Low Ratings

 

BTC
🤡

the joke wasn't about Charlie Kirk; it was about the "lack" of grieving in the reaction of someone who claimed to be his friend. 

I wish we I could post the video but because of who he is it would be too political. 

If Kimmel is mean, and a liar, don't watch him! Maybe start your own channel in YouTube to see how popular your jokes are. Is never too late to become an influencer, at least for those who have entrepreneurial willingness. 

Let people watch and decided who is talented and who isn't. 

Edited Friday at 12:29 PM by marylander1940

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

5 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

If Kimmel is mean, and a liar, don't watch him! 

BINGO!

And there you have it.
No one was watching!!! At least not enough to sustain the show. And we all know the reasons that his ratings were so low that you could fit his TV audience into a telephone booth.

Bozo has thoroughly enjoyed the last two nights. Sitting on the recliner with a big bag of popcorn on Bozo's lap with a bottle of seltzer on the nearby table watching a REAL comedian Steve Harvey say, "And the survey says..."

BTC
🤡

[marylander1940]

Just now, BOZO T CLOWN said:

BINGO!

And there you have it.
No one was watching!!! At least not enough to sustain the show. And we all know the reasons that his ratings were so low that you could fit his TV audience into a telephone booth.

Bozo has thoroughly enjoyed the last two nights. Sitting on the recliner with a big bag of popcorn on Bozo's lap with a bottle of seltzer on the nearby table watching a REAL comedian Steve Harvey say, "And the survey says..."

BTC
🤡

Let the market decide, not some insecure folks easily offended. 

Keep watching him, he won't be cancelled!

Is South Park next? 

 

 

[Simon Suraci]

4 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

• ask Nexstar
• ask Sinclair Broadcasting
• ask ABC
• ask Disney

These entities are beholden to the very leadership that Kimmel was critiquing. Their decisions weren’t about ratings; their decisions were about capitulation to that same leadership - leadership that can’t handle criticism.

If it were truly about ratings, it would have happened much sooner, and on the basis of not renewing contracts at the end of a term. Actions to pull the show were in direct response to backlash from those who can’t handle criticism.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

27 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

Their decisions weren’t about ratings;

They absolutely were about his ratings.
And unless you were sitting in on the meetings that the execs at Nexstar, Sinclair, ABC, and Disney had, then you are only speculating. And your speculation is baseless.

leadership that can’t handle criticism.

This has nothing to do with criticism. It has to do with a low-ratings, no-talent loudmouth with an inflated sense of self worth getting on the public airwaves and spreading lies.

 

Kimmel comports himself as if he has a right to say whatever he wants, regardless of veracity, without the fear of any consequences. Now that his inflated ego and big mouth have been knocked down a couple of notches, he should take responsibility for his lies. He needs to issue a public apology, and grovel on his knees to his various employers asking for his job back.

Since the above scenario is highly unlikely, Kimmel will end up on Substack, a podcast, or as an MSNBC talking head. 

BTC
🤡

[marylander1940]

27 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Kimmel comports himself as if he has a right to say whatever he wants, regardless of veracity, without the fear of any consequences. Now that his inflated ego and big mouth have been knocked down a couple of notches, he should take responsibility for his lies. He needs to issue a public apology, and grovel on his knees to his various employers asking for his job back.

Since the above scenario is highly unlikely, Kimmel will end up on Substack, a podcast, or as an MSNBC talking head. 

BTC
🤡

Can you elaborate and post some of the jokes he made based out of lies?

Just a few of them!

[+ Travis69]

55 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Kimmel comports himself as if he has a right to say whatever he wants, regardless of veracity, without the fear of any consequences.

I wonder where he learned that??????????????????

[BSR]

14 hours ago, sync said:

Question:  If

@BOZO T CLOWN 

• "Kimmel had lousy ratings and was losing $$$."
• "Too bad for Kimmel that even the half of the country he didn't alienate            didn't bother to tune into his 60-minute snoozefest."
• "Even some of his more loyal fans didn't want to listen to his nonsense before bedtime or while having sex."
• "Celebrity Family Feud will be shown on ABC stations at 11:30 tonight and for the indefinite future (and almost certainly will have higher ratings than the Jimmy Kimmel Show)."

and

@BSR 

• "Kimmel’s ratings were dismal, 1.1 million vs. 2.8 million for Colbert and 3.1 million for Greg Gutfeld"

why was it so important for some with differing opinions to go to extraordinary lengths to suppress his freedom of speech?

I reject the victimhood narrative.  What extraordinary lengths did anybody employ to get Kimmel canceled?  He said something things that were outright false and deeply distasteful.  When his ABC bosses demanded he apologize, Kimmel not only refused, he said he would double down on his next show.  Fearing the public backlash, the powers-that-be felt they had no choice but to fire him.  “Suppress his freedom of speech” makes Kimmel sound like a noble victim.  Bullshit!  Kimmel did this all to himself.

Edited Saturday at 12:04 AM by BSR
Wording

[Km411]

Kimmel’s not the victim, we (including you) are. You can’t see it yet, but you will. It’s sad.

[+ sync]

7 hours ago, BSR said:

I reject the victimhood narrative.  What extraordinary lengths did anybody employ to get Kimmel canceled?  He said something things that were outright false and deeply distasteful.  When his ABC bosses demanded he apologize, Kimmel not only refused, he said he would double down on his next show.  Fearing the public backlash, the powers-that-be felt they had no choice but to fire him.  “Suppress his freedom of speech” makes Kimmel sound like a noble victim.  Bullshit!  Kimmel did this all to himself.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see."

[+ purplekow]

On 9/18/2025 at 5:05 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Kimmel was crude and crass, and alienated half of the country. Not a good recipe for success.
Kimmel was not funny. His show was supposed to be late night COMEDY. Repeat - COMEDY. His viewers could have more fun staring at the wall. 
Kimmel had lousy ratings and was losing $$$. Reruns of Hee Haw would get better ratings than cry baby Kimmel. He can now go on the View with Colbert and have a group hug and cry with the girls.

Jimmy Kimmel became a huge business liability to Nexstar/ABC/Disney > Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
What's really surprising Kimmel made it this long..

BTC
🤡

 

If any of this is true, it is still irrelevant to the manner in which he and Colbert were handled.  Meanwhile Fox lives off feeding this beast when the shoe is on the other foot. 

Your statements just point out how weak the justification is for removing he because of WHAT HE SAID.  If what he said was really the reason, his ratings, the money and all the rest would be moot.   And while it may have been ill advised, it is only the heavy handed interference of the government into this matter now, and with the law changes that made companies like Sinclair possible.   If people were offended, and it seems unlikely that viewers of Colbert and Kimmel skew to the right who are carrying the torches for this, then they can not watch.  

 

Edited Saturday at 07:34 AM by purplekow

[+ purplekow]

15 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Kimmel comports himself as if he has a right to say whatever he wants, regardless of veracity, without the fear of any consequences. Now that his inflated ego and big mouth have been knocked down a couple of notches, he should take responsibility for his lies. He needs to issue a public apology, and grovel on his knees to his various employers asking for his job back.

Since the above scenario is highly unlikely, Kimmel will end up on Substack, a podcast, or as an MSNBC talking head. 

BTC
🤡

Yeah after all this is ABC not FOX.  

I wish they would just go back to talking about Epstein.  

Edited Saturday at 07:39 AM by purplekow

[Alpha714]

The ratings quoted earlier are based on total audience but when you look at the most coveted demo for advertisers (Adults 18-49), all three network late shows outpace Fox News with Kimmel and Colbert running almost equal. Fox News may have have higher numbers in the daypart but their audience is way older. As someone who has spent a good amount of his career involved in network television, it is all about reaching the target audience who has the greatest buying power. XXXX

*Please keep politics out of your message. 

[Km411]

Not mentioned in connection with ratings decline is the fact that Kimmel has 20.8M subscribers on his YouTube channel. Sure, it’s promo for the broadcast show, but these platforms are where the younger demographic lives. Will these cancellations hasten the demise of broadcast tv?