Rate Increases for (Perceivably) Standard Services?

[+ Jamie21]

1 hour ago, jmichaeliii said:

  I sometimes wish they could read my mind.

That’s exactly what a good provider does when you meet him first time. I’ve said it before, regarding sensual massage: you’re working the mind as well as the body. The mind is the biggest sex organ (even if he’s 10 inches 😂). 

[Ali Gator]

More often than not, the travelers can’t answer simple questions like: how long will you be in town for? And which hotel are you staying at?  The hotel question is very important to me because there are some locations throughout the state I won’t go to and certain hotels l won’t step foot in. Still, I need to ask multiple times before I get an answer and make up my mind. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

4 hours ago, AtlTopGuy said:

Overall I think the providers need to engage a bit more in pre-meeting discussions and be definitive on their part.....this is NOT only the responsibility of the client.

I never said it was just the client who needed to speak up.  I just said to always be clear, which most people aren't.

And, if the meeting doesn't go the way you want it to, you're always welcome to leave.

Clients need to realize that if they're going to engage the services of a young escort, they're going to likely jump through some hoops to get the job done.  This is just the reality of the situation.

As I've said a million times before, unprofessional behavior in a fully unregulated industry go hand in hand. 

Do your homework, trust your gut and don't think solely with your dick.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 4/5/2025 at 1:20 PM, Jamie21 said:

Could be the inclusion of kissing. That does change the dynamic of a session...

 

On 4/5/2025 at 12:29 PM, WorthJayson said:

...When I asked what the $300 rate entailed, he said just oral and anal...

 

On 4/5/2025 at 2:37 PM, WorthJayson said:

...I guess I was just thinking standard stuff that typically happens when hooking up would just be baked into the base rate...

My typical random hookups always include anal sex... sometimes oral sex, too... But, never kissing.  Kissing is reserved for my long term relationships*.  Sounds like this escort has similar expectations to mine.

*Edit: long-term relationships for me means 2-hour appointments or longer 😁 

Edited April 7 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ ApexNomad]

16 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

People get embarrassed to ask, especially in writing. It can make it very difficult. I encourage guys to be clear because it’s not going to offend me but still they are reluctant. Perhaps they don’t want a record anywhere out of fear of lack of discretion or even getting into legal trouble in those backward countries where it’s unlawful to hire for sex (yes I’m talking about you 🇺🇸). 

I find clients can be very coy about asking. It’s difficult to guess from subtle hints and innuendo. There’s phrases that come up often such as; ‘what’s included?’ which is so open as to be pointless, ‘how erotic does it get?’ …answer: ‘It’s 4.3 on the erotic scale of course (like the Richter scale - it’s exponential 😉)’… and ‘will you be naked?’ which I translate to ‘I want to suck you’.

Then there’s the text that arrives asking ‘full service?’ (and not always with a question mark)…It is at least direct I guess. And the ‘what is the most you offer?’ or words to that effect….which gets the reply ‘what is your budget?’ (actually it doesn’t because we all know that those requests never result in a booking - they’re 99% sure to be a time waster).

Often guys are hyper respectful of massage therapy and will ask lots of questions about technique and areas of their neck / shoulders etc which are tight. We discuss what they’d like me to work on…then right at the end of all those questions they raise the elephant in the room and ask furtively ‘and how does it end?’ …I’m often tempted to say ‘I like to spoon for a short while after I’ve bred a guy’ but that’s probably over promising so I just send a ‘💦😉’ which seems to be sufficiently subtle for these ‘I’m booking a legit massage’ buyers. 

If there’s a specific activity you definitely want then you just have to ask directly. If that’s difficult, find a porn film that shows the action and send him a link - even better if your guy is in it!. I get a few clients sending me links to films I’ve done saying ‘I want this please’. It’s nice to know they’ve watched you, and as someone once said ‘a picture is worth a thousand words’.

 

When I reflect on the first time I reached out to a provider, back when texting and apps weren’t a thing, I wonder if I could go through it again in today’s age, especially with all the technology we have now. I remember speaking with the provider both over the phone and in person for my first time. There was no way I could have conveyed what I wanted via text or email—it would’ve felt too clinical or detached, and not at all reflective of the experience I was seeking. Seeing it written down, I think, would have stripped away everything I needed from the moment. 

I think it took the provider no more than five minutes to understand exactly what I wanted, or rather, what I needed. He knew right away. It was in the way I spoke. I was nervous. I was tripping over my words. He could sense my unease, and he understood it. There’s something about the human connection that gets divorced from the page. Everyone’s experience is different, and how and when they come to it in life varies. It’s all so personal.  

[+ Jamie21]

5 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

There’s something about the human connection that gets divorced from the page.

Yes, and it can also get divorced from the audio in a phone call.

Nothing beats sitting across from, or even better next to someone when they explain what they want. Writing it down or speaking it over the phone can be too difficult. 

Sometimes I get clients like that. They really don’t want to put it in a text, and definitely not speak to me on the phone (no one under 65 makes phone calls any more!). They want an opportunity at the start of the session for a conversation and that’s where they ask. It can be quite difficult to work out how long someone wants for that chat. I remember one guy telling me on text that he wanted to talk to me before the session about what he’d like. I assumed it would be just something brief like ‘nothing on my feet, my foreskin is tight so be gentle and lots of body contact etc’ but it was much more profound. I sat next to him on the table, held his hand while he told me why he was here and how he felt. It was an unburdening; both mental through the chat and physical through the massage. There’s no way he could have conveyed what he needed in a text or phone call. An incredibly emotional experience. That can only be done in person. 
 

[SirBillybob]

On 4/6/2025 at 7:27 PM, musclvr said:

So he quoted you the Basic Economy fare. Then there is Economy, Economy Plus, Premium Economy, Business (non-refundable pre-pay), Business (pay after your session), and First.

Honestly, that's what it seems some of these providers try do.

And there are plenty of threads on here about dynamic pricing and free upgrades.

But the baggage is always free.