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18 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well...he may have discovered that his honesty was working against him. 

Its unfortunate but I AM guilty of being turned off by the knowledge. Even though I DO always just approach sexual encounters as if. 

Its sort of like eating meat  

You embrace a level of denial when you eat a tasty steak. You choose to not think about where it ACTUALLY came from and what horrors that animal suffered to get a meal to your plate. 

Agreed, the scientific knowledge of U=U does not override the psychological impact of knowing someone is (or was) poz.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, NipLuvr212 said:

Setting up a straw man, or in this case fox, is never becoming.

Just reminding you it takes two to tango...but for many its always "the other guy" who's wrong. 

Sometimes its both.

Not everyone is a good match, even for a business transaction. Best to move on without the sour grapes. Makes you the bigger man. 

 

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2 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Just reminding you it takes two to tango...but for many its always "the other guy" whose wrong. 

Sometimes its both.

Not everyone is a good match, even for a business transaction. Best to move on without the sour grapes. Makes you the bigger man. 

 

so kind of you not to pass judgment

Posted
On 3/1/2026 at 7:50 AM, JayinHKNYC said:

U=U

If, and only if, U is actually U. 

If you look at the original U=U study, there were several seroconversions, when U wasn’t really U. Those got discounted, but in real life, those guys became infected with HIV. And that’s what really matters. 

Posted
31 minutes ago, nycman said:

If, and only if, U is actually U. 

If you look at the original U=U study, there were several seroconversions, when U wasn’t really U. Those got discounted, but in real life, those guys became infected with HIV. And that’s what really matters. 

Exactly. Just because a guy at one point tested undetectable doesn’t mean he is undetectable at any given moment, hence my psychological barrier I mentioned earlier (I deem it psychological because the same concept applies to a negative test).

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U=U... look at the recent studies... zero seroconversions. Yes, it depends if they are not undetectable any more, you always have to weigh the risks, but too many people on this site blanket stigmatize undetectable as suspect.

Posted
2 hours ago, JayinHKNYC said:

U=U... look at the recent studies... zero seroconversions.

HIV can hide in dormant cells and reactivate and multiply during a lapse in treatment of less than a week.
 There are multiple examples of drug resistance occurring after many years of viral treatment and especially after infections from STI's such as syphilis. 
So... U does not always equal U because people get lazy and metabolisms change with other external factors
 
 
 
Posted
17 hours ago, SFChinois said:

He doesn't show face so that a red flag?  anyone confirm how he looks?  LOL

 

Disagree that this is a red flag- unless they refuse to also dm you a face. 
 

Posted
8 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:
HIV can hide in dormant cells and reactivate and multiply during a lapse in treatment of less than a week.
 There are multiple examples of drug resistance occurring after many years of viral treatment and especially after infections from STI's such as syphilis. 
So... U does not always equal U because people get lazy and metabolisms change with other external factors
 
 
 

“HIV can multiply during a lapse in treatment”- in other words, after a lapse in treatment, they may be *not* undetectable. This does not seem like it is a rebuttal of U=U. 
 

The drug resistance point you mention also seems to suggest that when drugs don’t work, the person wouldn’t truly be undetectable. Again, that is a well known point, and doesn’t counter the idea that being truly undetectable means untransmittable.

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