Murdered Detroit neurosurgeon was in relationship with male killer.

[marylander1940]

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[moonlight]

19 hours ago, sniper said:

They looked like blemishes to me. 

Yeah me too. Maybe they are tattoos but it's not clear from the pic. If they aren't tattoos, I wouldn't see any reason to consider this guy a "thug" from his pic/appearance alone.

[Alchemy]

On 8/8/2024 at 10:58 AM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Keep in mind, this is in Detroit.  

That's not even close to the home of a billionaire.

...  And, again, in Detroit.

Correct. I worked not far from his place. It's the Boston-Edison Neighborhood. Back in Henry Ford's day, it was THE neighborhood to be. During the Motown heyday, it had a revival with Berry Gordy and others living there. But it's surrounded by dicey areas and the houses, which are beautiful and can sell for a million or more -- much more if they were elsewhere, are not in as much demand as previously. Many also sell for far less than a million. 

[LookingAround]

On 8/10/2024 at 4:48 PM, pubic_assistance said:

I'm not "gay". And I don't understand the 2024 comment. Did someone recently decide that masculinity doesn't exist ? Just becasue your tastes run to feminine men...doesn't mean than all masculine men are "punks". I don't doubt that Devon Hoover's attraction was the rugged masculinity that Desmond Burks exhibits.

Men who are men.

He just hires male escorts lol. But he's not gay. Got it?

[pubic_assistance]

9 hours ago, LookingAround said:

He just hires male escorts lol. But he's not gay. Got it?

Bisexual men hire too.

[Miguyhere]

On 9/10/2024 at 8:10 AM, maninsoma said:

Though the photos of the alleged killer aren't clear, it looks to me like he has small teardrop tattoos on his face -- maybe one on his left side and three on his right.  I think that's a big part of why my reaction to his photo was "why would anyone be attracted to him?!"  I assume you all know that gang members get teardrop tattoos on their faces after they kill someone, so if my reading of his mug shot is correct it looks like he's telling the world that he had already killed numerous people.  If you find that sexy and "masculine" then I have nothing else to say.

I interpreted those teardrops the same way.  We all have different life experiences that help form our opinions.  That goes for the use of the word “Thug”.  In my house, the term “Thug” is definitely not attached to a race or culture, but it’s a “look” that’s projected.  This story is a tragic one regardless.  I just wish folks could stop themselves from being so quick to judge other folks opinions.  We each view things with different life experiences.  Accusing others of being racist, without even knowing their race/culture/life experiences, is a seriously harsh and hurtful leap in my opinion.  

[Ali Gator]

Maybe I'm the odd man out, but I don't find the doctor all that attractive in the OP. 

[Andy2]

Honestly, if there is anything we have learned from the Message Board, it is that gay or bisexual or pansexual men have widely varying tastes.  Repeatedly, we have seen differences in taste become personal pissing matches.  It is a human impulse to regard one's own taste as "best," but if you fall into that trap you are misunderstanding the world we live in. 

FWIW, I find the doctor very handsome in a classic 1950s way; as I grew up as a white guy in the 1950s, he would have been very sexy to me.  

The mug shot of the apparent murderer struck me kinda the way it struck Pubic Assistance:  strong jaw, handsome brown eyes, very masculine aura.  Personally, I am not attracted to facial hair and strongly prefer more hair on the top (hence, I really like the clean-shaven doctor), but I do not see "thug" in that photo.  

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

This POS took a plea to a second degree murder charge and was sentenced today to 35 to 60 years in prison. The lowlife smiled, smirked, and waved during sentencing.
Bozo would love to say what he hopes will happen to this piece of human garbage during his stay in prison, but that may violate the COM rules.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/23/us-news/male-prostitute-who-murdered-neurosurgeon-smirks-smiles-and-waves-as-hit-with-huge-sentence/

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[JB_Studio38]

7 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

This POS took a plea to a second degree murder charge and was sentenced today to 35 to 60 years in prison. The lowlife smiled, smirked, and waved during sentencing.
Bozo would love to say what he hopes will happen to this piece of human garbage during his stay in prison, but that may violate the COM rules.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/23/us-news/male-prostitute-who-murdered-neurosurgeon-smirks-smiles-and-waves-as-hit-with-huge-sentence/

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I was looking for a topic here that probably discussed this, but couldn’t find it so made a new thread. Thanks for reviving (though I haven’t read this thread yet, and idk if I want to yet lol). Albeit, the way you said it, sounds a bit racist 🤔 

That said, stories like this are all too common I feel in the gay/money lifestyle. I knew a (White) friend who I was pretty sure was involuntarily murdered (overdosed) by his married (White) lawyer sugar daddy who they had a volatile relationship with. But the story never hit the news. And the lawyer never got charged or indicted. This happened in Denver, where another friend of a friend was also murdered in a relationship situation (neither were escorts) 
 

I have met many doctors in the lifestyle, even one is a current regular. I already gave my suggestions here, however I don’t think it’s just down to someone being a human garbage. The news often only tells SMALL TIDBITS of what actually went down. They don’t know everything, and if they do know: it’s probably why he took the plea deal so the real details wouldn’t be shared public.
 

No blame on either side, but I think if we all knew the true story (which might someday be shown on “true crime” series), it would probably look very different than what the courts and media portray. No doubt, this client may have engaged in a dynamic that allowed this to happen. Especially since it wasn’t a random, one night thing. 
 

We just need to start having the conversations, among gay men and in society in general about toxic relationships, sugar daddy situations, etc. Too many damaged people are allowing other damaged people into their lives, and this same fucking narrative plays out over and over again. Time to start speaking up. BLM ✊🏿 did its thing, women’s rights did its thing. It’s time to petition for FREE and routine, gay mental health access. Push it as much as condoms and lube are freely available in gay bars. HIV may be a disease of the immune system, but toxicity and co-dependency is just as much something that needs to be treated as a disease. 

Edited yesterday at 06:08 AM by JB_Studio38

[BaronArtz]

Male prostitute who murdered neurosurgeon smirks, smiles and waves as hit with huge sentence

Does anyone know who the escort is?  I don't recall seeing him on rentmen.  In any event, he will have to turn tricks in jail from now on.

Be careful out there!

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, BaronArtz said:

Male prostitute who murdered neurosurgeon smirks, smiles and waves as hit with huge sentence

Does anyone know who the escort is?  I don't recall seeing him on rentmen.  In any event, he will have to turn tricks in jail from now on.

Be careful out there!

Sociopathic behaviour with the complication of malignant narcissism; as an acquaintance, a psychotherapist, remarked to me, it is not an uncommon affliction with male providers engaged in the "business". Your caution should be taken to heart and exercised in any "hire".

[Reggyreg56]

That guy was trade! I don't think he was advertising on Rentmen 

[robberbaron4u]

11 minutes ago, Reggyreg56 said:

That guy was trade! I don't think he was advertising on Rentmen 

Please, let us be realistic, "Rentmen" is a "trade paper", not the Ladies Home Journal.

[TJMS]

His victim was a prominent neurosurgeon in Detroit. Sad

[Reggyreg56]

11 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said:

Please, let us be realistic, "Rentmen" is a "trade paper", not the Ladies Home Journal.

True, but look at that guy. I have seen many guys like him. Hell I have been with a few. He is straight up trade. No more, no less. Well he's also a cold blooded killer so there's that.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

15 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

........, the way you said it, sounds a bit racist 🤔 

.I have met many doctors in the lifestyle, even one is a current regular. I already gave my suggestions here, however I don’t think it’s just down to someone being a human garbage. The news often only tells SMALL TIDBITS of what actually went down. They don’t know everything, and if they do know: it’s probably why he took the plea deal so the real details wouldn’t be shared public.

No blame on either side, but I think if we all knew the true story (which might someday be shown on “true crime” series), it would probably look very different than what the courts and media portray. No doubt, this client may have engaged in a dynamic that allowed this to happen. Especially since it wasn’t a random, one night thing.

Nonsense! Your psychoanalytic babble and accusations of racism doesn't change the facts!
The victim, Dr. Devon Hoover,  was a highly successful neurosurgeon, a kind soul who was beloved in his community. His body was found in a crawl space in his home by police with 2 bullets in his head after a welfare check was performed when he failed to show up to visit his dying mother.

The perp, Desmond Burks, confessed to the murder. After he killed Dr. Hoover, he stole expensive jewelry from his home and made money transfers from the doctor's bank account and went on a wild shopping spree. He also confessed to a previous murder where he pummeled a fellow motorist to death in an act of road rage. At the sentencing, he smiled and smirked for the cameras while the grieving family sat in the courtroom and tearfully watched.

You state that there is "no blame on either side" and if we knew the "true story" "it would probably look very different than what the courts and media portray." No blame on either side? Really? Is there a moral equivalence between the neurosurgeon hiring an escort and the escort murdering him? Are there mitigating factors to this crime? What do you think the "true story" is? Did the doctor do something or say something that would have justified his murder? 

It is not racist to call a piece of human garbage a piece of human garbage. Despite what you may say or think, this cold blooded murder has absolutely NOTHING to do with BLM, women's rights, or mental health. This is an act of violence by a depraved human animal who will hopefully die in prison.

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Edited 18 hours ago by BOZO T CLOWN

[TJMS]

I read the doctor's obituary, and he sounds like a Renaissance Man. He just chose badly when it came to lovers. 

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Nonsense! Your psychoanalytic babble and accusations of racism doesn't change the facts!
The victim, Dr. Devon Hoover,  was a highly successful neurosurgeon, a kind soul who was beloved in his community. His body was found in a crawl space in his home by police with 2 bullets in his head after a welfare check was performed because he failed to show up to visit his dying mother.

The perp, Desmond Burks, confessed to the murder. After he murdered Dr. Hoover, he stole expensive jewelry from his home and made money transfers from the doctor's bank account and went on a wild shopping spree. He also confessed to a previous murder where he pummeled a fellow motorist to death in an act of road rage. At the sentencing, he smiled and smirked for the cameras while the grieving family sat in the courtroom and tearfully watched.

You state that there is "no blame on either side" and if we knew the "true story" "it would probably look very different than what the courts and media portray" No blame on either side? Really? Is there a moral equivalence between the neurosurgeon hiring an escort and the escort murdering him? Are there mitigating factors to this crime? What do you think the "true story" is? Did the doctor do something or say something that would have justified this murder in cold blood? 

It is not racist to call a piece of human garbage a piece of human garbage. Despite what you may say or think, this cold blooded murder has absolutely NOTHING to do with BLM, women's rights, or mental health. This is an act of violence by a depraved human animal who will hopefully die in prison.

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I am in agreement with you. 

[Luv2play]

5 hours ago, Reggyreg56 said:

That guy was trade! I don't think he was advertising on Rentmen 

As it turned out, rough trade (RT). Back when being gay was illegal and there was no Rentmen, gays solicited RT  in the rougher parts of town (often servicemen) and took their chances on getting roughed up or worse. Sal Mineo comes to mind. 
These days some people still do this and this doctor appears to be one of them. 

[Luv2play]

Just now, Luv2play said:

As it turned out, rough trade (RT). Back when being gay was illegal and there was no Rentmen, gays solicited RT  in the rougher parts of town (often servicemen) and took their chances on getting roughed up or worse. Sal Mineo comes to mind. 
These days some people still do this and this doctor appears to be one of them. 

The literature from the period has stories about this. Tennessee Williams in his short story, Three for a Party, dealt with a gay man who liked RT and didn’t mind getting the odd black eye in pursuit of his fun.

[JB_Studio38]

4 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Nonsense! Your psychoanalytic babble and accusations of racism doesn't change the facts!
The victim, Dr. Devon Hoover,  was a highly successful neurosurgeon, a kind soul who was beloved in his community. His body was found in a crawl space in his home by police with 2 bullets in his head after a welfare check was performed because he failed to show up to visit his dying mother.

The perp, Desmond Burks, confessed to the murder. After he murdered Dr. Hoover, he stole expensive jewelry from his home and made money transfers from the doctor's bank account and went on a wild shopping spree. He also confessed to a previous murder where he pummeled a fellow motorist to death in an act of road rage. At the sentencing, he smiled and smirked for the cameras while the grieving family sat in the courtroom and tearfully watched.

You state that there is "no blame on either side" and if we knew the "true story" "it would probably look very different than what the courts and media portray" No blame on either side? Really? Is there a moral equivalence between the neurosurgeon hiring an escort and the escort murdering him? Are there mitigating factors to this crime? What do you think the "true story" is? Did the doctor do something or say something that would have justified this murder in cold blood? 

It is not racist to call a piece of human garbage a piece of human garbage. Despite what you may say or think, this cold blooded murder has absolutely NOTHING to do with BLM, women's rights, or mental health. This is an act of violence by a depraved human animal who will hopefully die in prison.

BTC
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Cool your heels…you’re so angry, you’re missing the point entirely. 

I just made a topic the other day, about how much I dislike people like the perpetrator. And I can go on and on about how stupid he probably is, but then that would assume I’m talking about a “sane” person…which in this case likely not.

When I said not casting blame on either side, I was meaning it in a way that was simply saying: I won’t “blame” the doctor for his own fate BUT, I have seen this dynamic play out so many times with other people, ESPECIALLY when it comes down to “younger Black guy/older wealthy White guy” dynamic.

You wouldn’t understand what I’m saying, because you haven’t seen the things I’ve seen in the context. I’ve seen it many times: wealthy White guy, keeps a gaggle of young/financially challenged Black men in/out of their homes. He doesn’t necessarily want to “pay for an escort” the proper way, but rather have someone around he can be a daddy to (even if he’s a bottom), and kinda have on 24/7 call. Not quite sugar daddy, but they may have differing views. 
 

The problem is some of these “genius” White guys try to “game” the system by seeking someone who’s not too bright, and potentially dangerous. Where giving someone $500 for an all out weekend, sounds better than $1,500 for an overnight. A wealthy guy who is going for someone in his mid 30s, who doesn’t have anything but him to depend on is certainly a 🤨 

That said, I don’t know the specifics of this one, however it wouldn’t surprise me.

[JB_Studio38]

16 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

As it turned out, rough trade (RT). Back when being gay was illegal and there was no Rentmen, gays solicited RT  in the rougher parts of town (often servicemen) and took their chances on getting roughed up or worse. Sal Mineo comes to mind. 
These days some people still do this and this doctor appears to be one of them. 

 
I was talking with my friends who are familiar with Detroit, and they mentioned something about Palmer Park that the Doctor apparently went to pick up another person:

https://www.cruisinggays.com/detroit/areas/1205-palmer-park/

Again, not the best way to carry out these things. I would not be bringing tricks from a park to my home, anything that goes down would have to be at a hotel. I’ve been doing that for the past 2 years anyway lol. 

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

58 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Cool your heels…you’re so angry, you’re missing the point entirely. 

I just made a topic the other day, about how much I dislike people like the perpetrator. And I can go on and on about how stupid he probably is, but then that would assume I’m talking about a “sane” person…which in this case likely not.

When I said not casting blame on either side, I was meaning it in a way that was simply saying: I won’t “blame” the doctor for his own fate BUT, I have seen this dynamic play out so many times with other people, ESPECIALLY when it comes down to “younger Black guy/older wealthy White guy” dynamic.

You wouldn’t understand what I’m saying, because you haven’t seen the things I’ve seen in the context. I’ve seen it many times: wealthy White guy, keeps a gaggle of young/financially challenged Black men in/out of their homes. He doesn’t necessarily want to “pay for an escort” the proper way, but rather have someone around he can be a daddy to (even if he’s a bottom), and kinda have on 24/7 call. Not quite sugar daddy, but they may have differing views. 
 

The problem is some of these “genius” White guys try to “game” the system by seeking someone who’s not too bright, and potentially dangerous. Where giving someone $500 for an all out weekend, sounds better than $1,500 for an overnight. A wealthy guy who is going for someone in his mid 30s, who doesn’t have anything but him to depend on is certainly a 🤨 

That said, I don’t know the specifics of this one, however it wouldn’t surprise me.

 "When I said not casting blame on either side, I was meaning it in a way that was simply saying: I won’t “blame” the doctor for his own fate BUT, I have seen this dynamic play out so many times.."

How magnanimous of you not to blame Dr, Hoover for his own murder .

This is not about Bozo being "angry". It is about expressing shock at what you wrote in your post.

Even though you admit that you don't know anything about the specifics of this particular case, you type four paragraphs of hypothetical "what-ifs" and "based on my experience" nonsense to try to explain the motives of Dr. Hoover and Burks.  Based on your vast knowledge of the older wealthy white man/younger poor black man dynamic, you can pick apart exactly what went on here..... without knowing any of the details of the case.

This was simply a cold-blooded murder and robbery. Anything more is baseless speculation on your part. It was committed by an animal who has no value for human life, who had killed before and gotten away with it. Despite what you may think, this murder has no relation to BLM, women's rights, black/white dynamics, or gay mental health access. 

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[robberbaron4u]

4 hours ago, TJMS said:

I read the doctor's obituary, and he sounds like a Renaissance Man. He just chose badly when it came to lovers. 

In the course of my lifetime, I have often encountered gentlemen of means and men of prominence in their professional lives and, having been introduced to their "partners" asked myself, privately, "Why?!?".