Rick M Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 (edited) I am filing this "review" anonymously because I don't think my encounter with the subject is typical, and I'm afraid some readers may misinterpret my reason for posting. My experience with X forced to me reevaluate some of my perceptions about escorting, for this is a case, I'm sure, of a person who would cultivate other fields if he could only escape his current sinkhole. I met X at his place. He was an hour late running a mercy mission for his ex-boyfriend, but I was not in a rush, so I waited for him in the neighborhood. Turned out that he and this boyfriend had broken up recently, and that event was one of a number of negatives weighing on his mind. His apartment was dark and messy; he was between jobs (another burden) and I got the impression that I was inconveniencing him. Physically he's slim and boyish, not my "type," as I prefer rugged, robust, and muscular humans. All the same, I went ahead with the session. We got to talking. I was a little put off by his attitude, which is ironic and smart-ass. He loves to contradict and challenge opinions, but then, so do I. We got into it on his sofa, and later, with rollicking intensity, we continued the athletic foreplay on his bed. Although limited to kissing and body contact, we had a good time; nothing else happened, which is only disappointing in retrospect: I didn't get all the menu items I wanted. Truly distressing was the phase during which he passed out. I could not get a response out of him. I began imagining the ultimate scenario in which I call 911 and summon the EMTs. But since he was still breathing--perhaps in a shallow fashion, yet similar to normal sleep--I decided to give him time to recover. I pushed his inert body to one side and went hunting for my clothes. After ten minutes or so, he revived and walked out into the living room without a trace of grogginess. (At that time I was still 73% zonked, and although I had remained conscious throughout, he claimed that it was I who had gone completely under!) I conclude from all this, and conversations with other "low end" providers within the last year, that there is a whole stratum of guys struggling and barely keeping total insolvency at bay through their underground gig economy; in contrast, their "high end" counterparts--a more polished, prosperous, mobile tribe--seem to be successful in their trade (with or without another paying occupation). My instincts in the past might have directed me toward a half- or even full-ass rescue operation, but if you are familiar with my article about a particular personal funding fiasco, I am now far less likely to intervene. Edited May 21, 2024 by Rick M Typo + keroscenefire 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rick M said: I am filing this "review" anonymously because I don't think my encounter with the subject is typical, and I'm afraid some readers may misinterpret my reason for posting. My experience with X forced to me reevaluate some of my perceptions about escorting, for this is a case, I'm sure, of a person who would cultivate other fields if he could only escape his current sinkhole. I met X at his place. He was an hour late running a mercy mission for his ex-boyfriend, but I was not in a rush, so I waited for him in the neighborhood. Turned out that he and this boyfriend had broken up recently, and that event was one of a number of negatives weighing on his mind. His apartment was dark and messy; he was between jobs (another burden) and I got the impression that I was inconveniencing him. Physically he's slim and boyish, not my "type," as I prefer rugged, robust, and muscular humans. All the same, I went ahead with the session. We got to talking. I was a little put off by his attitude, which is ironic and smart-ass. He loves to contradict and challenge opinions, but then, so do I. We got into it on his sofa, and later, with rollicking intensity, we continued the athletic foreplay on his bed. Although limited to kissing and body contact, we had a good time; nothing else happened, which is only disappointing in retrospect: I didn't get all the menu items I wanted. Truly distressing was the phase during which he passed out. I could not get a response out of him. I began imagining the ultimate scenario in which I call 911 and summon the EMTs. But since he was still breathing--perhaps in a shallow fashion, yet similar to normal sleep--I decided to give him time to recover. I pushed his inert body to one side and went hunting for my clothes. After ten minutes or so, he revived and walked out into the living room without a trace of grogginess. (At that time I was still 73% zonked, and although I had remained conscious throughout, he claimed that it was I who had gone completely under!) I conclude from all this, and conversations with other "low end" providers within the last year, that there is a whole stratum of guys struggling and barely keeping total insolvency at bay through their underground gig economy; in contrast, their "high end" counterparts--a more polished, prosperous, mobile tribe--seem to be successful in their trade (with or without another paying occupation). My instincts in the past might have directed me toward a half- or even full-ass rescue operation, but if you are familiar with my article about a particular personal funding fiasco, I am now far less likely to intervene. I would have turned around and walked away at the end of the sentence "I got the impression I was inconveniencing him" (4th sentence, 2nd paragraph), having exchanged no money. Edited May 21, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial + DrownedBoy, Peter Eater, Wanderoz and 10 others 3 5 5
+ JEC Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 This review is a testimonial for trying to do as much vetting as you can with providers. Vetting includes (1) checking available reviews (2) trying to connect with other clients if possible and (3) limited chat with the provider to gauge their "vibe" and your compatibility. Other providers/clients on here will do a phone session before as well. If they have fans content, that can tell a lot about their sexual behaviors and preferences. No vetting will ever catch every nuance or detail, but I would hope to discern some level of enthusiasm before agreeing to meet with a provider. None of this is critical @Rick M I've had my share of bad meetings (including my most recent one, not bad just "meh"), I try to use them as a learning opportunity for "how could I have vetted that for a better result"? Such an imperfect science, this hobby! Part of the intrigue is now knowing exactly what you will get beforehand, still it's disappointing when the the experience is lacking. Hen, Medin, + keroscenefire and 1 other 1 1 2
Marc in Calif Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 8 hours ago, Rick M said: Physically he's slim and boyish, not my "type," as I prefer rugged, robust, and muscular humans. All the same, I went ahead with the session... A few things don't add up in your story! Did you not know his physical stats or see photos before you met him? Or did he post fake stats and pics? 8 hours ago, Rick M said: After ten minutes or so, he revived and walked out into the living room without a trace of grogginess. (At that time I was still 73% zonked, and although I had remained conscious throughout, he claimed that it was I who had gone completely under!) Why were you so "zonked"? Had you done drugs with him before he passed out? And, if so, why in the world would you do drugs after you'd met him, heard his tale of woe, and seen his "dark and messy" apartment? As @samhexum would say -- "Lucy, you got a lot of splainin' to do!" 😊 houlougalleria, NYXboy, Saabster and 1 other 3 1
Rick M Posted May 22, 2024 Author Posted May 22, 2024 Not going to answer random questions... Accept the evidence as it stands! Sometimes I roll the dice with strangers because there is something (inharmoniously) alluring about them. Sometimes I'm just seeking to expand my research database. And I did make an emotional connection here, even though it didn't lead to anything enduring or particularly meaningful. + azdr0710 and Marc in Calif 1 1
Peter Eater Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 I suppose danger can be exciting, but the eventual result is not all that different from being a rescuer: self-destructive. Good luck. Hen, Wanderoz, + nycman and 3 others 1 5
SouthOfTheBorder Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 lots of red flags & they were ignored guys hire for many reasons - some are drawn to the risk & danger. if that is the reason, then you’re gonna find it.
BostonDadType Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 There are so many strange parts to this story. Why were YOU having issues staying awake? (At that time I was still 73% zonked, and although I had remained conscious throughout, he claimed that it was I who had gone completely under!) I know you said you're not going to answer "random" question - but I thinks this is not random at all and goes to the heart of your post. Saabster, houlougalleria, Your Man in Arlington and 7 others 4 4 2
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 My advice. Keep this anonymous. It doesn't make either of you look good. Your Man in Arlington, Walt, dcguy20 and 4 others 4 1 1 1
topunderachiever Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 17 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: My advice. Keep this anonymous. It doesn't make either of you look good. this ^ You have to wonder why the OP wanted us all to know. peter831, Your Man in Arlington, Walt and 1 other 1 3
NYXboy Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 imagine doing drugs with a provider and then complaining that the provider is on drugs. Walt, marylander1940, Your Man in Arlington and 3 others 6
Marc in Calif Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 On 5/21/2024 at 7:05 PM, Rick M said: Not going to answer random questions... No. A random question would have been this: "What's the dick size of the ex-boyfriend?" Specific questions about your own description of events are never "random." Maybe you think that they're simply too pointed and annoying for you. But don't try to call them "random." That's a typical refuge of trolls who don't want to be accountable for what they write. Jim_n_NYC, Hot4latin, + nycman and 5 others 3 2 3
Jim_n_NYC Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 I'm going to have to start writing 6 paragraph long dissertations on meeting guys and then when I get challenged on it, I'm going to claim the questions are random. LOL. Marc in Calif 1
marylander1940 Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/21/2024 at 1:48 PM, Rick M said: I am filing this "review" anonymously because I don't think my encounter with the subject is typical, and I'm afraid some readers may misinterpret my reason for posting. My experience with X forced to me reevaluate some of my perceptions about escorting, for this is a case, I'm sure, of a person who would cultivate other fields if he could only escape his current sinkhole. I met X at his place. He was an hour late running a mercy mission for his ex-boyfriend, but I was not in a rush, so I waited for him in the neighborhood. Turned out that he and this boyfriend had broken up recently, and that event was one of a number of negatives weighing on his mind. His apartment was dark and messy; he was between jobs (another burden) and I got the impression that I was inconveniencing him. Physically he's slim and boyish, not my "type," as I prefer rugged, robust, and muscular humans. All the same, I went ahead with the session. We got to talking. I was a little put off by his attitude, which is ironic and smart-ass. He loves to contradict and challenge opinions, but then, so do I. We got into it on his sofa, and later, with rollicking intensity, we continued the athletic foreplay on his bed. Although limited to kissing and body contact, we had a good time; nothing else happened, which is only disappointing in retrospect: I didn't get all the menu items I wanted. Truly distressing was the phase during which he passed out. I could not get a response out of him. I began imagining the ultimate scenario in which I call 911 and summon the EMTs. But since he was still breathing--perhaps in a shallow fashion, yet similar to normal sleep--I decided to give him time to recover. I pushed his inert body to one side and went hunting for my clothes. After ten minutes or so, he revived and walked out into the living room without a trace of grogginess. (At that time I was still 73% zonked, and although I had remained conscious throughout, he claimed that it was I who had gone completely under!) I conclude from all this, and conversations with other "low end" providers within the last year, that there is a whole stratum of guys struggling and barely keeping total insolvency at bay through their underground gig economy; in contrast, their "high end" counterparts--a more polished, prosperous, mobile tribe--seem to be successful in their trade (with or without another paying occupation). My instincts in the past might have directed me toward a half- or even full-ass rescue operation, but if you are familiar with my article about a particular personal funding fiasco, I am now far less likely to intervene. You hired someone who wasn't your type? I'm not going to mention all the other red flags. Sorry but too much drama! Marc in Calif 1
marylander1940 Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/23/2024 at 12:49 PM, NYXboy said: imagine doing drugs with a provider and then complaining that the provider is on drugs. On 5/21/2024 at 1:57 PM, Vegas_Millennial said: I would have turned around and walked away at the end of the sentence "I got the impression I was inconveniencing him" (4th sentence, 2nd paragraph), having exchanged no money. On 5/22/2024 at 8:48 AM, nycman said: Marc in Calif 1
Lohengrin1979 Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 These boards never fail to amaze, intrigue, and delight. I keep feeling that I should be less surprised at what clients and providers encounter since I’ve been hiring for two decades but an essay like this comes along and titillates me anew. + APPLE1 and + nycman 2
+ nycman Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/21/2024 at 9:57 PM, Marc in Calif said: Why were you so "zonked"? Had you done drugs with him before he passed out? On 5/21/2024 at 10:05 PM, Rick M said: Not going to answer random questions... In other words…."yes". marylander1940 and Marc in Calif 1 1
+ keroscenefire Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/21/2024 at 11:48 AM, Rick M said: I conclude from all this, and conversations with other "low end" providers within the last year, that there is a whole stratum of guys struggling and barely keeping total insolvency at bay through their underground gig economy; I do agree with this. Definitely have had some encounters with guys that I think could be semi-homeless. There definitely are some drug users out there. I don't think is new but it is important to be careful. Had one guy hit me up when I was out of town and he tried to convince me to Venmo him for a "future visit." I declined of course and when I got back into town, his RM profile and SM had him in LA. He apparently moved there to "couch surf" with a friend after being evicted from his spot in Denver. There always has been a significant number of escorts (perhaps even most) who do this job because it's one of the few ways to make quick and relatively easy money when there otherwise aren't many other opportunities. It's one oef the few ways that these recent Venezuelan and Colombian guys can make good money. Absolutely nothing wrong in hiring these guys and many of them can provide a wonderful experience. But it's always a great idea to be careful with anyone that you hire as we have no idea what is going on in their life and yeah in some ways you have to be prepared for shit like, "What if this escort has a medical emergency while with me." If you cannot, you probably shouldn't hire at all. Lohengrin1979, Beancounter, Your Man in Arlington and 2 others 4 1
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