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13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Interesting that he actually admits to being HIV positive.

A huge turn off for me but I admire his integrity for being honest about it.

even if undetectable and under ART?  I understand it is no longer contagious.

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1 hour ago, BaronArtz said:

What is ART?  

I don't mean to get all judgmental here, but us denizens of this space really should be up to speed on the latest medical issues: ART, Truvada/prep, Doxy Prep etc.  As Sy and Marcy Sims used to say in the adverts, "an educated consumer is our best customer." 

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1 hour ago, tenderloin said:

I don't mean to get all judgmental here....

... but I'm gonna do it anyway...🙄

I've been fucking my brains out since the late 80s. Condoms have done the trick thus far. No unwanted pregnancies and no HIV. So not much interest in all these options that give me a false sense of security to bareback everyone.

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5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Yeah...I know it's not entirely logical.

Just can't do it with someone who I KNOW is infected. Total turn off.

 

You’re not alone!  I once had a very very mild/vanilla hookup with a guy who was undetectable… I was too scared to go anywhere near his cum, and my mind was racing for weeks afterwards, thinking that I could have caught something just from making out with him (what if we both had cuts in our mouths and he didn’t take his meds, etc).  This fear of STIs in general has essentially made me celibate for the last few years. I know my fear after that particular encounter was illogical, but I can’t deny that I had it and have to accept that it’s best for my mental health to simply avoid.

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20 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

... but I'm gonna do it anyway...🙄

I've been fucking my brains out since the late 80s. Condoms have done the trick thus far. No unwanted pregnancies and no HIV. So not much interest in all these options that give me a false sense of security to bareback everyone.

I didn't say that people should or should not use condoms or prep or whatever. I won't judge others' decisions there. But, referring to the question "what is ART?", is seems to me that to be a sexually active gay man seeing escorts and to not be familiar with the basics of HIV treatment/prevention is pretty stunning. 

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46 minutes ago, tenderloin said:

I didn't say that people should or should not use condoms or prep or whatever. I won't judge others' decisions there. But, referring to the question "what is ART?", is seems to me that to be a sexually active gay man seeing escorts and to not be familiar with the basics of HIV treatment/prevention is pretty stunning. 

I don't agree. 

If you're not into bareback sex...then why should you care ? 

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20 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

You’re not alone!  I once had a very very mild/vanilla hookup with a guy who was undetectable… I was too scared to go anywhere near his cum, and my mind was racing for weeks afterwards, thinking that I could have caught something just from making out with him (what if we both had cuts in our mouths and he didn’t take his meds, etc).  This fear of STIs in general has essentially made me celibate for the last few years. I know my fear after that particular encounter was illogical, but I can’t deny that I had it and have to accept that it’s best for my mental health to simply avoid.

I sympathize with your fears. It took me a long time to tame mine. Similar to @BaronArtz I approach sex as if everyone has every STI. So I do what I'm comfortable with. I'm not particularly scared of getting most STIs (though I never have) because I'm tested regularly and they're all treatable. If I'm going to bareback, I use PreP or condoms. 

I have two concerns with your point of view. One, is that you're denying yourself sex because of irrational fear. That's not good for you. There's no evidence of HIV being transmitted due to a cut in someone's mouth. HIV is actually a relatively hard infection to get - compared to chlamydia or giardia. So maybe you could talk to a counselor who will make you feel more confident. 

Second, HIV stigma is very real and very harmful to people living with HIV. We need to fight it internally and as a community. I know this is particularly challenging for those of us who are over 40 because we saw an entire generation decimated. But from PreP to ART, HIV is no longer a death sentence. And giving into irrational fear is harmful to ourselves and our community. By all means, use condoms, take PreP, what have you, but try to end the stigma. 

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11 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

I sympathize with your fears. It took me a long time to tame mine. Similar to @BaronArtz I approach sex as if everyone has every STI. So I do what I'm comfortable with. I'm not particularly scared of getting most STIs (though I never have) because I'm tested regularly and they're all treatable. If I'm going to bareback, I use PreP or condoms. 

I have two concerns with your point of view. One, is that you're denying yourself sex because of irrational fear. That's not good for you. There's no evidence of HIV being transmitted due to a cut in someone's mouth. HIV is actually a relatively hard infection to get - compared to chlamydia or giardia. So maybe you could talk to a counselor who will make you feel more confident. 

Second, HIV stigma is very real and very harmful to people living with HIV. We need to fight it internally and as a community. I know this is particularly challenging for those of us who are over 40 because we saw an entire generation decimated. But from PreP to ART, HIV is no longer a death sentence. And giving into irrational fear is harmful to ourselves and our community. By all means, use condoms, take PreP, what have you, but try to end the stigma. 

Thank you!  Part of the reason I hooked up with the undetectable guy in the first place was in an effort to actively fight the stigma in my mind (previously a poz status had been an automatic “no”).  I felt comfortable/safe with the science in my brain before the hookup, but not after the fact subconsciously.

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18 hours ago, LookingAround said:

To be deaf and blind as a gay man in the age of HIV is pretty stunning. Your comment is as revealing as it is stunning. 

I'm not "gay".

So there's that...

Also, I am completely aware of the risks of HIV and have chosen a prevention that ALSO lowers my risk of multiple other sexually transmitted diseases.

I think all these gays who pop pills so they can bareback every random guy they meet are the ones who are deaf and blind to the reality of the risks they take.

I am uninterested in anything that only prevents ONE sexually transmitted disease. So you shouldn't be "stunned".

 

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15 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

 

I am uninterested in anything that only prevents ONE sexually transmitted disease. So you shouldn't be "stunned".

 

So you lead the Daddy's Den Chapter of the Know Nothing party? I'd tell you to look up DoxyPep, but it would evidently be a waste of time.

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19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

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On 5/13/2024 at 1:58 PM, Wanderoz said:

Now, if only somewhere there in NYC will only "dive in" and report back!

I met him yesterday. He’s very handsome and was a lot of fun. Too bad all the background noise here detracted from the original poster’s query. He’s well worth a meeting for anyone not put off by his stutus, which really shouldn’t be an issue for anyone who takes the proper precautions.

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