Jamie21 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 8 minutes ago, starman05 said: This is how I feel intimacy and feeling safe are priceless There it is exactly. If I’m asked the question “what one thing do your clients want?” I’d have to say it’s intimacy and feeling safe (I know that’s two!!!) but you really can’t have intimacy if you don’t feel safe. Everything else flows from this. It’s essential that the client feels comfortable with you, they trust you and they feel approved of by you. Create that environment and then you can deliver other things. + Coolwave35, 56harrisond, Your Man in Arlington and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingAround Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 11/10/2023 at 11:33 AM, Simon Suraci said: Sorry for the cold shower on your hot fantasy, guys. I’m just trying to inject some realism into this discussion so you can develop appropriate expectations and also delight in the unexpected when it happens. Value your providers and pay them accordingly. Please keep in mind we are not cum machines. I completely understand the client fantasy of a massage scenario morphing into a porn set. That scenario assumes your appointment is the only thing on your masseur’s agenda for the day. However, it’s just that: a fantasy. I can’t deliver cum for a massage fee for every client that darkens my door. Some days that means I would have to get hard and ejaculate six times back to back. Never mind the fact that I may have a legit escort client I have to perform for on that same day. I just can’t do it consistently and still maintain quality or sufficiently pace myself. If you want your masseur to cum as part of your massage session, please ask for it and pay his escort rate, or at the very least, tip very generously when you fail to discuss an appropriate fee prior to starting the session and he does it for you anyway. If your guy is already way overcharging for massage (like, $200+/hr), it’s safe to assume these services are already baked into the cost and I wouldn’t worry about it. $160/hr or less I would assume nothing more than massage, and enjoy the possibility of some extras if he does them. Happy endings are very common and normal, but not guaranteed. Do not expect full service, oral, or your masseur to cum for you. Some guys might do these things for their regular massage fee, but please respect masseurs with boundaries around what they will do for their standard massage fee. Boundaries vary. Clients are not entitled to anything they didn’t already discuss with their masseur. I want my clients to understand the value of each of the services they hire and pay accordingly. Massage (even erotic massage) is NOT discount sex work. Blowing loads all over clients with no discussion of rates beforehand is, in my mind, asking the client to expect discount escort services. We can debate at length about what is and isn’t sex work and many other threads already hash it out. IMHO, having to deliver cum - in one way or another - is well within the sex work category. Others can charge whatever they want for it. If your guy can consistently cum for you for a massage fee, enjoy the discount service, but please do not place the same expectations on other masseurs. I can do six massages a day. I can’t possibly take six escort clients a day. So I charge higher for escort service and lower for massage. Scarcity over a given time period is among the many reasons I charge the way I do. Thanks for this. I’m so turned off by the marketing posts disguised as “genuine” impromptu posts. Simon Suraci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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