robberbaron4u Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Luv2play said: This is the sort of comment that is contrary to the spirit and intention of this forum, which is to celebrate and yes, when necessary, offer critiques of providers who cater to our interests. You have no basis to besmirsch these guys that for whatever reason turned down an opportunity to meet with one of our forum members. It is their choice alone whether to meet or not when they are contacted via RM. I did not "besmirsch" the provider; I questioned the astuteness of any client in furnishing a personal photograph to an provider known only to the client by a www hookup and engaged in an activity which is illegal in many jurisdictions, In any event, in the true and certain belief that a picture is worth a thousand words, this is the photograph I furnish to a provider who requests one of me. . . Marc in Calif, + nycman, TorontoDrew and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ goosh69 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, robberbaron4u said: I did not "besmirsch" the provider; I questioned the astuteness of any client in furnishing a personal photograph to an provider known only to the client by a www hookup and engaged in an activity which is illegal in many jurisdictions, In any event, in the true and certain belief that a picture is worth a thousand words, this is the photograph I furnish to a provider who requests one of me. . . Right, and I similarly send ten hundred dollar bills in a photo. And I’ve had more rentboys than not tell me about their other John’s - often by name. And more than once show me pictures of them. It’s not some remote possibility that these two would show this guy’s photo. But still, the main issue is just them ghosting him. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Providers can screen and sift as they see fit but asking someone's age and requesting a photo is just a bad idea in general.... FIRST thing that needs to be considered is "privacy" and establish some level of trust in what can already be a nerve racking process where people can feel vulnerable. Providers ( I speak for myself ) should make massive efforts to make people feel safe and not nervous; more than they probably are to begin with. I'd not ask for photos, I don't ask how old people are because as long as it doesn't involve minors, the age of a client is 100% immaterial and inconsequential to me. I also never ask people for information that might make them uneasy or feel vulnerable. I never ask what people do for a living nor do I ask who they work for. People will invariably share what they want when they want but that's up to them to decide. People can screen a lot more than they realize from pushing communication.. how people communicate ( many factors involved ) is a far better screening tool than most would realize. I can tell pretty early on by texts, inbox messages and emails if I'm dealing with someone I'm interested in meeting and I'm certain people will be able to say the same about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said: I did not "besmirsch" the provider; I questioned the astuteness of any client in furnishing a personal photograph to an provider known only to the client by a www hookup and engaged in an activity which is illegal in many jurisdictions, In any event, in the true and certain belief that a picture is worth a thousand words, this is the photograph I furnish to a provider who requests one of me. . . Brilliant 🙌🏽👌🏽👏🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBillybob Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said: So, roughly 70’s-ish currently? Edited September 1, 2023 by SirBillybob marylander1940 and Marc in Calif 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, caramelsub said: I know of providers that prefer to hire over age 40 clients, or older clients over younger clients. I think it’s because they think younger clients play games or are immature or won’t have the money. Age preferences work the other way around too. I know about providers who refuse to hire people who are overweight and especially obese. Nowadays clients under 40 happen more than before because of "Grindr fatigue". caramelsub 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robberbaron4u Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, SirBillybob said: So, roughly 70’s-ish currently? Sir, my step might be somewhat slower these days, but, I assure you, the "spring" in that step is yet youthful. Marc in Calif, SirBillybob and TorontoDrew 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muscmtl Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 These 2 bozzos... red flags when they said yes to all my demands (99% never do), would not show face pic, and kept comming back with higher prices for each service... and I ve learned to trust my red flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muscmtl Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, V_Marco said: Providers can screen and sift as they see fit but asking someone's age and requesting a photo is just a bad idea in general.... FIRST thing that needs to be considered is "privacy" and establish some level of trust in what can already be a nerve racking process where people can feel vulnerable. Providers ( I speak for myself ) should make massive efforts to make people feel safe and not nervous; more than they probably are to begin with. I'd not ask for photos, I don't ask how old people are because as long as it doesn't involve minors, the age of a client is 100% immaterial and inconsequential to me. I also never ask people for information that might make them uneasy or feel vulnerable. I never ask what people do for a living nor do I ask who they work for. People will invariably share what they want when they want but that's up to them to decide. People can screen a lot more than they realize from pushing communication.. how people communicate ( many factors involved ) is a far better screening tool than most would realize. I can tell pretty early on by texts, inbox messages and emails if I'm dealing with someone I'm interested in meeting and I'm certain people will be able to say the same about me. Just checked your rentmen. Fukn hell, are u for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 10 hours ago, robberbaron4u said: You sent a prostitute a photograph of yourself by HIS request?!? I have to make inquiry of you as to what possessed you to undertake to comply with the request; he has a photograph of you which he can distribute to a wide audience by the www with any annotation he pleases to attach to it, e.g. "Old Fart" or "Parlor Q***n This post is mind boggling for two reasons. It's dehumanizing of providers when most of us would attest that our experiences are overall good and often great. If you think of all the famous women who have had exes or agents or photographers leak their photos, it doesn't seem we have to worry about escorts. Second, if you have social media (Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn), anyone can take a photo of you and claim anything about you. And in this era of deep fakes and AI-assisted video and graphic design, people with the right skills can copy your voice, etc. I wouldn't sweat someone having your picture. soloyo215, LA90046, TorontoDrew and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robberbaron4u Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: This post is mind boggling for two reasons. It's dehumanizing of providers when most of us would attest that our experiences are overall good and often great. If you think of all the famous women who have had exes or agents or photographers leak their photos, it doesn't seem we have to worry about escorts. Second, if you have social media (Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn), anyone can take a photo of you and claim anything about you. And in this era of deep fakes and AI-assisted video and graphic design, people with the right skills can copy your voice, etc. I wouldn't sweat someone having your picture. Mind-boggling? Doubtlessly, you wouldn't sweat someone having your picture until it turns up on a computer in you place of employment with, if you will, labelling inappropriate to the workplace . A prostitute, by definition, is a person who engages in sexual activity for payment; the use of the term is not dehumanizing, rather, it is the reality of the thing. Of course, you can "dress it up'" like a salad dish anyway you like to make it more palpable, but, in the end, it is a business and it is what it is. soloyo215 and + goosh69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, muscmtl said: Just checked your rentmen. Fukn hell, are u for real? Thank you 🙏🏽 ( I think 😜 ) I'm sort of newish here again. I ride the fine line between staying relative, competitive, and off the grid for the most part these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I don't know why some get upset when escorts ask for verification pics. A lot of them do it for safety issues. Others just want to confirm they can take the client and perform well. Let's be honest, not everyone gets an erection when is neeeded. At the end providers are entitled of servicing the people they want. It's like when you go to a store. Some of them can deny the service if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, socurious said: not everyone gets an erection when is neeeded. I know folks may have an off night once in a while but it's a bit weird to me. Thank goodness 😅 and knock on wood 🪵 in all my time in the biz, I've always been able to summon, obtain, sustain, and maintain an erection when one was expected and needed. I laugh when I'm reminded when Christopher Hitchens famously said he only prayed once, and that was for a hard on 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoDrew Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 I don't mind providing a face pic or stats. I think the provider should know who and what to expect. I don't mind being turned down either. What I didn't like in this situation was the way in which it was handled. Just a reminder, I'm told by someone I trust that these guys are a great hire. In this case, the customer service was lacking. soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 7 hours ago, marylander1940 said: I know about providers who refuse to hire people who are overweight and especially obese. Nowadays clients under 40 happen more than before because of "Grindr fatigue". Both you and Caramelsub talk about providers who hire clients. What universe are you operating in? I've yet to meet a provider, and I have met hundreds, who hired me, a client. It would save me a lot of money. + goosh69, Marc in Calif, muscmtl and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyGold Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, TorontoDrew said: Just a reminder, I'm told by someone I trust that these guys are a great hire. In this case, the customer service was lacking. Well they may have been for the other person - who may have been more compatible with their unprofessional criteria. Just as in real life - some providers may treat some people differently based on age / body type / race / socio-economic status etc. Someone having a great experience doesn’t mean another will. + goosh69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Luv2play said: Both you and Caramelsub talk about providers who hire clients. What universe are you operating in? I've yet to meet a provider, and I have met hundreds, who hired me, a client. It would save me a lot of money. I meant to say who refused to BE HIRED.... I shouldn't post from my phone. "I know about providers who refuse to be hired by people who are overweight and especially obese. Nowadays clients under 40 happen more than before because of "Grindr fatigue".' Edited September 2, 2023 by marylander1940 Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 hours ago, robberbaron4u said: Doubtlessly, you wouldn't sweat someone having your picture until it turns up on a computer in you place of employment with, if you will, labelling inappropriate to the workplace . Nothing like making assumptions... I run my place of employment, so that's not my concern. And, if such a photo was leaked, I'd say "yep, that's me. I have sex."Might that shock some people? Maybe. But I've never cared what others thought of me. Again, for someone who does or used to engage in this hobby you mostly project a very low opinion of those in the profession. marylander1940, Marc in Calif, Luv2play and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robberbaron4u Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: Nothing like making assumptions... I run my place of employment, so that's not my concern. And, if such a photo was leaked, I'd say "yep, that's me. I have sex."Might that shock some people? Maybe. But I've never cared what others thought of me. Again, for someone who does or used to engage in this hobby you mostly project a very low opinion of those in the profession. Not so; I have cast no aspiration on those engaged in " escorting", my point being, once again, that furnishing a photograph to a "total stranger" engaged in an activity which is illegal in any number of jurisdictions, is ill- considered. That you are your own man and immune from the consequences of a public outing is fine and dandy. However, give some thought to a "closeted" clergyman, a married man, an executive officer or just an ordinary fellow not in such a favorable position. I have named the game for that which, more often than not, it is and that is the "rub" in the thing. + KensingtonHomo, soloyo215, Marc in Calif and 2 others 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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