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Posted (edited)
On 5/31/2023 at 2:50 AM, BSR said:

Look, while I am utterly baffled that anyone would watch The Kardashians (or any reality TV for that matter), I'm not going to launch into diatribes or berate people for doing so.

Let me fix this for you 

the correct comparison in this context would be; someone who watches the Kardashians, professes to intensely dislike them ad nauseam, then devoting significant time/attention & energy to detailing that intense dislike while consuming lots of adjacent media about the Kardashians to fully confirm that the reason for the intense dislike is justified.

Your comparison implies that someone just watches Kardashians and isn’t triggered by them. If the person is extremely triggered by watching Kardashians - then the question becomes, why watch ?

btw - when you continue to consume media about celebrities or other public figures whom you dislike, you’re just strengthening their brand & name recognition so they will make more money on their next projects.  So just keep talking about whomever you dislike.  As they say - there is no bad press.  Remember Kim’s sex tape ??
Like it or not - our capitalist system thrives on people who have widespread name recognition (good or bad) and absolutely nothing will change it.  

Sometimes, celebrities with huge name recognition will go into politics - you gotta love America 🇺🇸

Edited by SouthOfTheBorder
Posted
9 hours ago, CuriousByNature said:

....despite the advantages of universal healthcare and not going bankrupt to get treatment, the healthcare situation is pretty dismal across the country

Sorry to go off topic...but I thought Canada was the role model for Universal Healthcare? Has that veil of misinformation finally being pulled back ?

Posted
7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Sorry to go off topic...but I thought Canada was the role model for Universal Healthcare? Has that veil of misinformation finally being pulled back ?

Where did you come up with that? I've never heard that. Depends on your source, but best healthcare is usually mentioned for Singapore, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and most western European countries (other than the UK). I've never heard the Canadian system being described as enviable. 

best-healthcare-2022-map.jpg
WWW.ATLASANDBOOTS.COM

Japan has the best healthcare in the world according to a recent report from the Legatum Institute. We take a look at who else performed well

best-healthcare-2022-map.jpg

 

Best-Healthcare-in-the-World.jpg
WISEVOTER.COM

Regional trends in healthcare quality are very visible, with developed countries generally offering higher quality healthcare than developing countries. The World Health...

 

"The ten countries with the best healthcare are Belgium, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Germany, Iceland, Finland, France, and Malta, with care system scores ranging from 79.8 to 83.8. The country that has the best healthcare in the world is Belgium, with a care system score of 83.8. Japan follows closely behind as the second country with the best healthcare, with a care system score of 83.2. Sweden, Switzerland, and Norway are the third, fourth, and fifth countries with the best healthcare, with care system scores of 83.1, 82.4, and 82.2, respectively. Germany and Iceland have the sixth and seventh best healthcare systems in the world, both with a care system score of 81.1. Finland has the eighth best healthcare in the world, with its care system score of 80.9. France and Malta round out the top ten countries with the best healthcare, with care system scores ranging at 80.4 and 79.8, respectively.

The ten countries with the best healthcare systems, according to the care system score, are :

1. Belgium – 83.8
2. Japan – 83.2
3. Sweden – 83.1
4. Switzerland – 82.4
5. Norway – 82.2
6. Germany – 81.1
7. Iceland – 81.1
8. Finland – 80.9
9. France – 80.4
10. Malta – 79.8"

Posted
17 hours ago, wsc said:

Didn't they already try the Vancouver area after they first left the UK? And after whatever time there, they moved to California, I suspect because the M part of H&M wasn't getting enough starshine to suit her needs, so off to a more Tinseltown-adjacent venue.

On another point, except for the King -he being the constitutionally designated Head of State for the Dominion of Canada [also the only one in the UK who doesn't need a Passport]- I don't think being a British royal or a peer of the realm (duke, earl, etc.) confers any sort of immigration or residency rights for Canada or any of the other dozen or so Commonwealth Realms, such as Australia, New Zealand, etc.

I really don't know myself, but do you know for a fact that it's the case that the son of the King of Australia doesn't have the right to live in Australia if he wishes to? That's amazing to me if it's true. If that's the case, then I guess the ginger prince was wise to marry an American to get his green card. I guess if I were obligated to live anywhere in the UK, I'd choose Brighton, which probably has the least dreadful climate. The city even matches me from a religious perspective:

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"Brighton is identified as one of the least religious places in the UK, based upon analysis of the 2011 census which revealed that 42 per cent of the population profess no religion, far higher than the national average of 25 per cent. Brighton has been described as the UK's most "Godless" city. The largest religion is Christianity, with 43 per cent reporting an affiliation. The second-largest religion is Islam, with 2.2 per cent, which is lower than the national average. As part of the Jedi census phenomenon in 2001, 2.6 per cent claimed their religion was 'Jedi Knight', the largest percentage in the country."

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Posted
8 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Sorry to go off topic...but I thought Canada was the role model for Universal Healthcare? Has that veil of misinformation finally being pulled back ?

It is universal in that we don't have to pay to go to the hospital or see a doctor, but the system is pretty broken too. And there is great reluctance to have two-tiered system where those who can afford it would pay privately, which would reduce wait times and unclog the system.  Many Canadians view universal healthcare the way many Americans view gun ownership - an almost sacred right that must never be touched or modified.

Posted
55 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

Where did you come up with that? I've never heard that. Depends on your source, but best healthcare is usually mentioned for Singapore, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and most western European countries (other than the UK). I've never heard the Canadian system being described as enviable. 

best-healthcare-2022-map.jpg
WWW.ATLASANDBOOTS.COM

Japan has the best healthcare in the world according to a recent report from the Legatum Institute. We take a look at who else performed well

best-healthcare-2022-map.jpg

 

Best-Healthcare-in-the-World.jpg
WISEVOTER.COM

Regional trends in healthcare quality are very visible, with developed countries generally offering higher quality healthcare than developing countries. The World Health...

 

"The ten countries with the best healthcare are Belgium, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Germany, Iceland, Finland, France, and Malta, with care system scores ranging from 79.8 to 83.8. The country that has the best healthcare in the world is Belgium, with a care system score of 83.8. Japan follows closely behind as the second country with the best healthcare, with a care system score of 83.2. Sweden, Switzerland, and Norway are the third, fourth, and fifth countries with the best healthcare, with care system scores of 83.1, 82.4, and 82.2, respectively. Germany and Iceland have the sixth and seventh best healthcare systems in the world, both with a care system score of 81.1. Finland has the eighth best healthcare in the world, with its care system score of 80.9. France and Malta round out the top ten countries with the best healthcare, with care system scores ranging at 80.4 and 79.8, respectively.

The ten countries with the best healthcare systems, according to the care system score, are :

1. Belgium – 83.8
2. Japan – 83.2
3. Sweden – 83.1
4. Switzerland – 82.4
5. Norway – 82.2
6. Germany – 81.1
7. Iceland – 81.1
8. Finland – 80.9
9. France – 80.4
10. Malta – 79.8"

Exactly.  Our healthcare in Canada is better than many places, but nowhere near as efficient and progressive as Northern Europe and Japan.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Where did you come up with that?

The thousands of times it's been evoked over the last two decades when people were discussing the horrible state of healthcare insurance in the US. 

They keep pointing to Canada as having figured it out.

I am guessing because the Canadians are the "most like us". Apparently not because it was actually not true.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

...I am guessing because the Canadians are the "most like us". Apparently not because it was actually true.

Don't you watch South Park? Canadians are nothing like us. Their heads bob up and down when they talk! 😄

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I don't know where these thousands of voices came from lauding the Canadian healthcare system. I've never heard these voices...

Who's controlling the voice in your head? | JKF

Posted
2 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

I've never heard these voices...

Seriously ??

How is that even possible ?

The Canadian system has been evoked in the mainstream media throughout the whole lead up to the formation of Obamacare.

Perhaps your choice of information is too intellectual to hear the voices of mainstream b.s.

Anyway . We are way off topic and that's my fault .

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Unicorn said:

I really don't know myself, but do you know for a fact that it's the case that the son of the King of Australia doesn't have the right to live in Australia if he wishes to? That's amazing to me if it's true. If that's the case, then I guess the ginger prince was wise to marry an American to get his green card. I guess if I were obligated to live anywhere in the UK, I'd choose Brighton, which probably has the least dreadful climate. The city even matches me from a religious perspective:

640px-Palace_Pier%2C_Brighton_%28NHLE_Co
EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

No, more as a matter of conjecture than an absolute fact, based on passport practices and regulations. To legally enter a country, a traveler must present a valid passport issued by his home country and containing a visa specifying the purpose for entry (visit, study, work, etc.). The type of visa determines allowed length of stays, as determined by the host country, which probably differ from one to the next. The point is that the host country, not the home country, sets these limits. In the British system, the sovereign is not required to have a passport since all passports are issued in his/her name. This covers the getting-out-of-Britain part, but I don't know how it's treated on the getting-into-another-country part of the trip. I doubt the King of Canada has to show a passport (even if he had one) at the Ottawa airport after arriving from London. However, I'm also pretty sure neither would the U. S. President, the Pope, or any other head of state be asked to show a passport upon arrival.

If you're a British HRH (a designated member of the Royal Family), you're likely to be given a variety of perks and exceptions regarding passport requirements in Commonwealth realms, but setting up house in the host country without the required residency visa would likely not be one of them.

And a far as places replete with non-believers, and aside from Brighton, might I suggest almost any Jesuit university? I have it on fairly good authority -from several Jesuits- these places are filled with atheists.

God bless 'em!

 

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Posted
On 6/3/2023 at 6:26 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

Let me fix this for you 

the correct comparison in this context would be; someone who watches the Kardashians, professes to intensely dislike them ad nauseam, then devoting significant time/attention & energy to detailing that intense dislike while consuming lots of adjacent media about the Kardashians to fully confirm that the reason for the intense dislike is justified.

Your comparison implies that someone just watches Kardashians and isn’t triggered by them. If the person is extremely triggered by watching Kardashians - then the question becomes, why watch ?

btw - when you continue to consume media about celebrities or other public figures whom you dislike, you’re just strengthening their brand & name recognition so they will make more money on their next projects.  So just keep talking about whomever you dislike.  As they say - there is no bad press.  Remember Kim’s sex tape ??
Like it or not - our capitalist system thrives on people who have widespread name recognition (good or bad) and absolutely nothing will change it.  

Sometimes, celebrities with huge name recognition will go into politics - you gotta love America 🇺🇸

I disagree with the premise that all publicity is good publicity.  Bad publicity can put your name in the headlines, but it can also make your "brand" toxic.  Global superstar celeb Greta Thunberg has diminished to a toxic nobody.  Hopefully the these 2 narcissists, professional victims, private jet climate warriors meet the same fate.

  • 1 year later...
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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Let's see how long the money lasts!

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM

News Group Newspapers offered an “unequivocal apology” to the prince for serious intrusion into his private life, as well as that of his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

 

I imagine he got somewhere between 5 and 10 million pounds as a settlement.

The fact that his mother's situation was cited would add to the damages since it impacted him at an early and impressionable age. The Sun admitting to having invaded her privacy will invoke a lot of sympathy for Harry.

Edited by Luv2play
Posted
2 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

The settlement was quoted at 8-figures.

I've read upwards of $12 million.

That would be in the range I gave given I was using British pounds.

On your list of his sources of wealth, he did quite well by his book I imagine and his other self employment ventures.

Posted
5 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

The settlement was quoted at 8-figures.

I've read upwards of $12 million.

i heard an interviewee this morning cite (apparently with background knowledge that it was accurate) a BBC report that the costs alone will be an 8 figure amount (so at least £10m), and just now a report that damages will be $20m (so over $US12m).

One important point from the result is that despite endless case settlements earlier without any admissions of guilt, News Limited have accepted that they acted unlawfully. This will remove the option in future claims against them of plausibly seeking a 'no admissions' settlement.

Posted

As usual the lawyers end up doing very well out of it as well. They apparently racked up millions of pounds in fees as Harry wended his way through the legal system.

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