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So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile:

"I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same.

I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun 

Be around my age or younger."

I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort?

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7 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

A new generation of 'escorts' (and I use the term loosely) think this is Grindr while getting paid.

That’s a good way of putting it. Several guys I’ve contacted recently seem to think I’m supposed to cater to them, not them to me. I find it’s the youngest crowd too. If you can believe the ages these guys put. I know a guy who’s profile says he’s 24 when he’s actually 35. I suppose 24 sounds more appealing. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

It feels like this guy is looking to film content.  He's not really an escort.  He's looking for same/like.

There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business.  Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue.

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1 hour ago, Scott Virginian said:

There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business.  Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue.

Is it truly a problem (challenge) are we just witnessing unbridled capitalism?  👀

Posted
2 hours ago, Scott Virginian said:

way more revenue.

This is apparently only true for a small group of creators. Most creators earn anywhere between a couple of dozen dollars to a few hundred dollars a month from their Onlyfans. Not enough to forego other income streams. Though they are getting creative. 

I saw another profile of an escort who has an Onlyfans who explicitly states on his escort profile that when you "hire" him, you cannot touch him and you (the client!) will film him having sex with someone else. And the client pays the escort for this. He has many positive reviews, go figure. 

On the flip side, there seem to be guys who have Onlyfans but also genuinely enjoy escorting and still offer great service. 

But especially during ans right after the pandemic, Hunqz was flooded with young guys who all had demands on their profiles, as if it were Grindr. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Wolfer said:

This is apparently only true for a small group of creators. Most creators earn anywhere between a couple of dozen dollars to a few hundred dollars a month from their Onlyfans. Not enough to forego other income streams. Though they are getting creative. 

 

This.  I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). 

It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle.

 

 

Posted
19 hours ago, Wolfer said:

So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile:

"I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same.

I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun 

Be around my age or younger."

I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort?

Please share this escort page so we don’t waste time clicking on it browsing RM

Posted
16 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

 

This.  I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). 

It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle.

 

 

This is my suspicion as well. I have never subscribed to an OF for more than a month. 

We see a guy pretty regularly who does porn as well. It doesn't seem to impact his desire to still escort and he hasn't blown up his rates. 

Posted

I think @BenjaminNicholas and @Jamie21 have it in one. Providers such as the one in the OP’s post are using RM to monetise their sex life, and/or drive revenue to their OF/JFF platforms. 

I have only encountered this scenario once with a provider. Initial contact was fine, he was even charming. Then it felt like I was on a weird job interview with all the questions. It was clear the provider was only interested in clients who fit certain criteria, (age, race, body shape/muscularity, etc.). What I was amused at was when I decided to end our back and forth with a polite “Thanks for your time, but I don’t think we’re a match” he was almost upset that I declined him. 

Whether it’s down to naïveté, ego, youth, hubris, or a combination, they either learn that’s not how this game works, and adjust or they move on. 

Posted
22 hours ago, ThroatCummer said:

Is it truly a problem (challenge) are we just witnessing unbridled capitalism?

I may not understand your phrasing, but are you suggesting that  "unbridled capitalism" in itself is not a problem?

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On 3/13/2023 at 6:36 PM, Wolfer said:

This is apparently only true for a small group of creators.

On 3/13/2023 at 6:54 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved

Fair points.  

I was possibly too focused on one facet: new entrants may feel that content creation gives them more choice/control over whom they work with, and that might initially seem more attractive. 

Benjamin's point about a fickle audience is good, and relevant to every form of social media: you have to feed the content monster every bloody day, and even taking a short break can cost you your audience.  At the start, however, some may not realize just how high that mountain is to climb.

Posted (edited)
On 3/13/2023 at 12:46 PM, Scott Virginian said:

There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business.  Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue.

As long as they are willing to actually do the work. Many younglings think that is easy having sex and getting paid. The truth is that in every profession, success is dependent on hard work and who you know. 

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Posted
On 3/14/2023 at 12:20 PM, BtmBearDad said:

What I was amused at was when I decided to end our back and forth with a polite “Thanks for your time, but I don’t think we’re a match” he was almost upset that I declined him. 

I had a guy do that to me once too. What too many of these guys fail to understand is that I’m not looking to have a quick fuck and call it a day. If you advertise boyfriend experience, expect some level of “interview” before the client commits. And if from that it’s not a fit, that’s the risk of advertising extended time. 

Posted
On 3/13/2023 at 10:54 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

 

This.  I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). 

It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle.

 

 

A very few make huge money, most don’t. Some guys seem to think they’ll be able to retire in a year by just posting a weekly movie of them tossing themselves off in front of a mirror. They soon realise it takes more work than that. Then they lose interest.

I have a justforfans. I’m in the top 3% of models on there. I make a reasonable return but I’m not retiring anytime soon! It takes work to build up a subscriber base. I probably spend 2 days a month working on it, and I have a business partner who I pay (from the justforfans revenue) to do the editing and social media uploads etc. He spends a couple of days too. He manages all that admin side and I do the performing and finding guys to collaborate with, and setting up film shoots. 

It doesn’t displace my massage work but it is a nice income stream to supplement that. I think to make having a fans site at least worthwhile you need to find a niche, film good quality content (good lighting, multiple angles, professional editing) and publish regularly.

The problem is that it’s so easy to enter the fans site business that people set up a site thinking they’ll be rich… and now it’s saturated with average content produced by naive models. 
 

 

Posted
On 3/14/2023 at 4:10 AM, Wolfer said:

So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile:

"I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same.

I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun 

Be around my age or younger."

I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort?

He will starve.

Posted

Great marketing strategy

”I’m available (sort of)                  to spend time (all that’s guaranteed) with men (a few of you) Contact me (if you dare) and I’ll get back to you (?) soon (if your CV, resume, full nude photos and 3 current credit references all pass inspection)”

 

Posted
15 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

Great marketing strategy

”I’m available (sort of)                  to spend time (all that’s guaranteed) with men (a few of you) Contact me (if you dare) and I’ll get back to you (?) soon (if your CV, resume, full nude photos and 3 current credit references all pass inspection)”

 

Who’s interviewing whom here?!

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