Wolfer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile: "I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same. I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun Be around my age or younger." I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort? Simon Suraci, + The Big Guy, tenderloin and 9 others 1 1 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 A new generation of 'escorts' (and I use the term loosely) think this is Grindr while getting paid. For some, it might work for a short time, but I can't see this as the norm. It feels like this guy is looking to film content. He's not really an escort. He's looking for same/like. Njguy2, + ButchAtl, RadioRob and 10 others 5 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaroslav Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: A new generation of 'escorts' (and I use the term loosely) think this is Grindr while getting paid. That’s a good way of putting it. Several guys I’ve contacted recently seem to think I’m supposed to cater to them, not them to me. I find it’s the youngest crowd too. If you can believe the ages these guys put. I know a guy who’s profile says he’s 24 when he’s actually 35. I suppose 24 sounds more appealing. Pd1_jap, + ButchAtl, Simon Suraci and 5 others 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Ask yourself…do you really want to meet someone with that large a cock…sorry…that large an ego? I agree with @BenjaminNicholas, these guys are using their superficial attraction as way of monetising their sex life. Avoid. Njguy2, + BenjaminNicholas, Danny-Darko and 4 others 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Virginian Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: It feels like this guy is looking to film content. He's not really an escort. He's looking for same/like. There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business. Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue. Edited March 13, 2023 by Scott Virginian Danny-Darko and tennisjock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ ThroatCummer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Scott Virginian said: There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business. Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue. Is it truly a problem (challenge) are we just witnessing unbridled capitalism? 👀 + KensingtonHomo, tennisjock and + IronMaus 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfer Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Scott Virginian said: way more revenue. This is apparently only true for a small group of creators. Most creators earn anywhere between a couple of dozen dollars to a few hundred dollars a month from their Onlyfans. Not enough to forego other income streams. Though they are getting creative. I saw another profile of an escort who has an Onlyfans who explicitly states on his escort profile that when you "hire" him, you cannot touch him and you (the client!) will film him having sex with someone else. And the client pays the escort for this. He has many positive reviews, go figure. On the flip side, there seem to be guys who have Onlyfans but also genuinely enjoy escorting and still offer great service. But especially during ans right after the pandemic, Hunqz was flooded with young guys who all had demands on their profiles, as if it were Grindr. HoseMaster, + IronMaus, + Lucky and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Wolfer said: This is apparently only true for a small group of creators. Most creators earn anywhere between a couple of dozen dollars to a few hundred dollars a month from their Onlyfans. Not enough to forego other income streams. Though they are getting creative. This. I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle. + IronMaus, TorontoDrew and Simon Suraci 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 We’ll see what happens when the recession hits. Pd1_jap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 19 hours ago, Wolfer said: So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile: "I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same. I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun Be around my age or younger." I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort? Please share this escort page so we don’t waste time clicking on it browsing RM CastaDiva and Jaroslav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGirth Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This guy clearly doesn’t understand what it means to be an escort. So many new guys are like that they request photos and stats, RM is not a dating app. + ButchAtl, Jaroslav and Simon Suraci 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 16 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: This. I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle. This is my suspicion as well. I have never subscribed to an OF for more than a month. We see a guy pretty regularly who does porn as well. It doesn't seem to impact his desire to still escort and he hasn't blown up his rates. HoseMaster and + IronMaus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfer Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, ChasingGirth said: Please share this escort page so we don’t waste time clicking on it browsing RM He's not on RM as far as I know i saw his add on Hunqz. tennisjock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtmBearDad Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I think @BenjaminNicholas and @Jamie21 have it in one. Providers such as the one in the OP’s post are using RM to monetise their sex life, and/or drive revenue to their OF/JFF platforms. I have only encountered this scenario once with a provider. Initial contact was fine, he was even charming. Then it felt like I was on a weird job interview with all the questions. It was clear the provider was only interested in clients who fit certain criteria, (age, race, body shape/muscularity, etc.). What I was amused at was when I decided to end our back and forth with a polite “Thanks for your time, but I don’t think we’re a match” he was almost upset that I declined him. Whether it’s down to naïveté, ego, youth, hubris, or a combination, they either learn that’s not how this game works, and adjust or they move on. Scott Virginian and + KensingtonHomo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 22 hours ago, ThroatCummer said: Is it truly a problem (challenge) are we just witnessing unbridled capitalism? I may not understand your phrasing, but are you suggesting that "unbridled capitalism" in itself is not a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Virginian Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 6:36 PM, Wolfer said: This is apparently only true for a small group of creators. On 3/13/2023 at 6:54 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved Fair points. I was possibly too focused on one facet: new entrants may feel that content creation gives them more choice/control over whom they work with, and that might initially seem more attractive. Benjamin's point about a fickle audience is good, and relevant to every form of social media: you have to feed the content monster every bloody day, and even taking a short break can cost you your audience. At the start, however, some may not realize just how high that mountain is to climb. + BenjaminNicholas and Pd1_jap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pd1_jap Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) On 3/13/2023 at 12:46 PM, Scott Virginian said: There has been another thread on this topic, but bottom line: OnlyFans et. al. are a real challenge for the escort business. Creators can hook up with a much smaller circle of similar hot guys and monetize the product for way more revenue. As long as they are willing to actually do the work. Many younglings think that is easy having sex and getting paid. The truth is that in every profession, success is dependent on hard work and who you know. Edited March 15, 2023 by Pd1_jap + DrownedBoy and Scott Virginian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 12:20 PM, BtmBearDad said: What I was amused at was when I decided to end our back and forth with a polite “Thanks for your time, but I don’t think we’re a match” he was almost upset that I declined him. Turnabout is fair play! Pd1_jap and BtmBearDad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaroslav Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 12:20 PM, BtmBearDad said: What I was amused at was when I decided to end our back and forth with a polite “Thanks for your time, but I don’t think we’re a match” he was almost upset that I declined him. I had a guy do that to me once too. What too many of these guys fail to understand is that I’m not looking to have a quick fuck and call it a day. If you advertise boyfriend experience, expect some level of “interview” before the client commits. And if from that it’s not a fit, that’s the risk of advertising extended time. jeezifonly, BtmBearDad and + cougar 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 10:54 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: This. I know more than a few OF guys who struggle to make it worth the legwork involved (finding models, releases, editing time, marketing, etc). It was once huge money for many creators, but the market is saturated and members fickle. A very few make huge money, most don’t. Some guys seem to think they’ll be able to retire in a year by just posting a weekly movie of them tossing themselves off in front of a mirror. They soon realise it takes more work than that. Then they lose interest. I have a justforfans. I’m in the top 3% of models on there. I make a reasonable return but I’m not retiring anytime soon! It takes work to build up a subscriber base. I probably spend 2 days a month working on it, and I have a business partner who I pay (from the justforfans revenue) to do the editing and social media uploads etc. He spends a couple of days too. He manages all that admin side and I do the performing and finding guys to collaborate with, and setting up film shoots. It doesn’t displace my massage work but it is a nice income stream to supplement that. I think to make having a fans site at least worthwhile you need to find a niche, film good quality content (good lighting, multiple angles, professional editing) and publish regularly. The problem is that it’s so easy to enter the fans site business that people set up a site thinking they’ll be rich… and now it’s saturated with average content produced by naive models. Scott Virginian, Pd1_jap, + IronMaus and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 4:10 AM, Wolfer said: So I stumbled upon a provider who had this on his profile: "I don’t respond to people I’m not interested in. And I respect if you do the same. I love sporty guys with hairy legs! A lot into foot, dominance, long sessions, 3somes, taking pics or videos. Text me if you think we can match, it will be fun Be around my age or younger." I kind of feel like he has a very different idea of what it means to be an escort? He will starve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Great marketing strategy ”I’m available (sort of) to spend time (all that’s guaranteed) with men (a few of you) Contact me (if you dare) and I’ll get back to you (?) soon (if your CV, resume, full nude photos and 3 current credit references all pass inspection)” Jaroslav and + IronMaus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaroslav Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 15 hours ago, jeezifonly said: Great marketing strategy ”I’m available (sort of) to spend time (all that’s guaranteed) with men (a few of you) Contact me (if you dare) and I’ll get back to you (?) soon (if your CV, resume, full nude photos and 3 current credit references all pass inspection)” Who’s interviewing whom here?! jeezifonly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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