Hiring Straight Guys(No politics)

[studchaser]

On 3/16/2023 at 5:02 AM, Jamie21 said:

Who cares! Just have great sex with other people you like, as many as possible, at the same time. Labels are so limiting. 

There are deep meaning to some of these fantasies Jamie. These labels carry weight that heighten the fantasy. For ppl like that the authentication of the labels are imperative 

[MmM]

I hired a straight guy recently. Hot young muscular guy who can be in the college wrestling team.  He kissed willingly (he wasn't using his tongue), got hard, fucked, and came.  He was such a nice guy, and the only draw to this for him was the money.  It wasn't as mechanical as that because we were interacting throughout; and I find knowing more about the other person eases the tension and makes for a more human interaction.  (And sometimes I just want unbridled sex! 😈 lol!) He has a girlfriend and admits that he wouldn't do this without getting paid.  And I believed he was sincere about that.  I enjoyed myself, thinking this straight dude was just obliging to get me off as I was turned on by his handsomeness and physique.  (Caveat: we had to have straight porn playing.)  It certainly is a fetish.  But I think I would prefer to be with someone who actually derives pleasure from gay sex.  Another one for my life's memoir.

Edited April 8, 2023 by MmM

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, MmM said:

But I think I would prefer to be with someone who actually derives pleasure from gay sex. 

He fucked you and shot his load ?
News flash: He derives pleasure from gay sex.

 

[Danny-Darko]

2 hours ago, MmM said:

I hired a straight guy recently. Hot young muscular guy who can be in the college wrestling team.  He kissed willingly (he wasn't using his tongue), got hard, fucked, and came.  He was such a nice guy, and the only draw to this for him was the money.  It wasn't as mechanical as that because we were interacting throughout; and I find knowing more about the other person eases the tension and makes for a more human interaction.  (And sometimes I just want unbridled sex! 😈 lol!) He has a girlfriend and admits that he wouldn't do this without getting paid.  And I believed he was sincere about that.  I enjoyed myself, thinking this straight dude was just obliging to get me off as I was turned on by his handsomeness and physique.  (Caveat: we had to have straight porn playing.)  It certainly is a fetish.  But I think I would prefer to be with someone who actually derives pleasure from gay sex.  Another one for my life's memoir.

Great that you found such a gem. I wish I could find one in my area! I agree with everything you said up till the end "But I think I would prefer to be with someone who actually derives pleasure from gay sex". In my experience, I have very rarely found a gay escort or hustler who's in it for the money who would have been with me for free and truly "ENJOYED" himself had he not been paid! MONEY is the key factor gay or not here for those that see it as a business or temporary money-making opportunity. Yes I have been for a few men who have escorted, stripped/danced on their own time who cruised me and we connected sexually. Those have been few and far apart and in my younger years. As I got older very very few attractive younger gay men would be interested in sleeping with me out of pleasure they derive from it. I've never been bad looking and at my age women still find me attractive (lucky me right, LOL), but men who do it for the money even at my first hire at 19 years old did it not because they derived pleasure from it but because they got paid. Erection and ejaculation is not synonymous of pleasure necessarily. Those that still believe that then also must believe that men can't be "raped or molested" unless penetrated or that men can't be raped by women. I honestly though that myth had finally been debunked, I guess not. Agree with me or not, all I'm saying is don't fool yourself. 

[Danny-Darko]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

He fucked you and shot his load ?
News flash: He derives pleasure from gay sex.

 

I fucked and shot my load being with a few women in my youth. Trust me, I didn't derive pleasure from straight sex nor did it make me bisexual! 

[Simon Suraci]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

He fucked you and shot his load ?
News flash: He derives pleasure from gay sex.

 

I actually agree with @Danny-Darkoon this point. When getting paid you do whatever you must to go through the motions to make a client happy.

For those clients who want straight men, I’m assuming part of the fantasy is that the provider is genuinely straight so he’s willingly doing something you know he wouldn’t otherwise want to do or be willing to do without payment. I’m intentionally ignoring that sexuality is fluid reality for the sake of argument. It’s a power thing, where money is the power. Evidence of, or impression of, the provider being straight i.e. must play straight porn, etc. reinforces that the client has power over someone he normally wouldn’t have power over in the real world. That’s a rush, I get it.

“Everything is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power.”

Every experience is a little different. You can connect with someone on a friendly level which helps on the physical front.

Also, you can STILL not be genuinely straight, play a straight character, perform, and make a client happy. As long as the client is successfully duped, no harm no foul. The client got the experience he wanted and is none the wiser. All are happy. In that case it doesn’t matter if the client is “actually” straight (again, nuances out the window for the sake of argument), it only matters that the client BELIEVES the provider is genuinely straight.

Aside - it is possible to be violated when you’re hard. Orgasm does not always mean you’re into what’s happening. The same applies for consensual situations. Ask any closeted gay man who has sex with his wife on a regular basis. I know a few of those.

[pubic_assistance]

25 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

I’m intentionally ignoring that sexuality is fluid reality for the sake of argument.

That's like saying I would like to make a point about propulsion but I'm going to ignore gravity for the sake of my argument.

[pubic_assistance]

41 minutes ago, Danny-Darko said:

I fucked and shot my load being with a few women in my youth. Trust me, I didn't derive pleasure from straight sex nor did it make me bisexual! 

I am genuinely curious then, WHAT made you shoot your load if you weren't deriving any pleasure from the experience ? How does this work ?

 

[Danny-Darko]

Rather than believe me, I suggest you do some research on your own about male molestation and rape and other reasons men can be unwilling participants in sex. Human sexuality and psychology are very complex and also male physiology has a lot to do with it.   

[Danny-Darko]

53 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

Aside - it is possible to be violated when you’re hard. Orgasm does not always mean you’re into what’s happening. The same applies for consensual situations. Ask any closeted gay man who has sex with his wife on a regular basis. I know a few of those.

Like you, I've known quite a few closeted married men with many children who have shared the agony and the experience of having to "make love" to their wives and even getting them pregnant! Life is not just black or white. And money isn't the only motivation either!  

[Guest]

On 3/4/2023 at 5:52 AM, MmM said:

I believe that perceived and actual social unacceptance of sexual predilections are what forces people to fit themselves in a box. 

I would have rephrased that as "...what forces SOME people to fit...".

 

[Guest]

On 3/3/2023 at 9:13 AM, Simon Suraci said:

...In my humble opinion, the only person limiting their own enjoyment of a straight provider is the client.

I agree with what you said. I just would have put the "straight" in this last sentence in quotes... Personally, I'd never knowingly hire a straight man. Some escorts just enjoy sex so much that I can at least imagine that he's enjoying sex with me (if he's gay or bi). However, if someone is truly as revolted by the idea of having sex with a man as I am with having sex with a woman, it would make the sex creepy for me. And the idea of having straight porn in the background? Yuck! 

I'm not judging, but I just don't understand why a man would prefer sex with a straight man. Maybe it's as another poster suggested: getting off on the idea that you have the power to make someone do something he hates. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

I suggest you do some research on your own about male molestation and rape and other reasons men can be unwilling participants in sex.

We were discussing sex for money. Not "rape". As far as research...I was raped twice when I was young. So I have a little first hand knowledge. This leaves me further baffled about what this has to do with escorting .

[MmM]

I see people's pov here, but to clarify:

- I didn't mention he is disgusted by having sex with another man, he is just not turned on by it. It requires more concentration to stay hard without ED meds

- he didn't cum because he wanted to, I asked him if he could. If you rub the penis long enough, it will cum. 

- I didn't hire him because he is straight, but because he is a hot young virile man. I would prefer hiring a gay or bi guy though, because there's a higher chance that someone gay or bi could be into having sex with me instead of someone straight going through the motions. 

- I don't think it's a power dynamic where I am asking him to do something he doesn't want to do. He is not desperate and told me he only does this because of the allure of making a lot of money quickly. You can look at it also that he is taking my hard earned money using his good looks to entice me. 

I had a good time. We smiled and hugged in the end. It wasn't a traumatic event for anyone, just 2 people exploring life and learning more about it and themselves. 

[Simon Suraci]

On 4/8/2023 at 2:43 PM, pubic_assistance said:

That's like saying I would like to make a point about propulsion but I'm going to ignore gravity for the sake of my argument.

I’m willing to bet we all agree on how gravity works, but we most certainly do not all agree on how to define human sexuality and its related terms. The analogy, therefore, simply does not apply.

Sexuality is fluid. The question “is this provider straight?” presupposes that it’s a 100% black or 100% white issue. It’s not. A man can be straight and enjoy a m4m experience. Some would say he is not straight in that case. As far as the man is concerned, he still identifies himself as straight. Who is right? That whole discussion is a separate issue. How do we define straight, gay and other identities? WHO gets to decide what applies and what doesn’t and to whom? WHO decides on the exceptions and clarifies the nuances? You will never get 100% agreement from everyone on the answers to those questions - AND I’m not attempting to get agreement on those answers in this thread. That is why I put it aside; those answers are beside the point.

I posit that sexual orientation and identity, however someone defines those, are irrelevant to a successful provider-client business transaction. My point is: a provider can market himself as “straight”, perform as if he’s straight, and deliver an experience the client wants. When the client believes the provider is straight (according to the client’s own definition of “straight”) and enjoys the experience, he’s happy. Nothing else is relevant. Period. Even if the provider is straight-for-pay, or technically bi, or whatever. Feel free to argue about how you define all of those sexual identity terms elsewhere. It’s an interesting discussion to have. However, with regard specifically to MY point, those definitions are irrelevant.

Worst case scenario: the provider is not straight, knows it, and deliberately fools his clients by acting out a persona, a character. At the end of the day, if a provider markets himself as straight (but really isn’t), dupes his clients, and then sexually enjoys men in the privacy of his home and inner thoughts, that’s his business. The client doesn’t need to know. What difference does it make to the client as long as the client is convinced of the provider’s straightness? That’s still a successful business transaction for the client and the provider. That’s why I’m questioning how relevant a provider’s sexuality is in the first place. If he’s a good actor, all else works out regardless. And if the provider is genuinely straight (by any definition you want to apply), fine. Same outcomes. What does it matter?

 

[pubic_assistance]

The problem is this (bad) habit of people wanting to stick people in well-defined boxes.

I go through this all the time, myself.

I am married with kids. My wife and I are happy together as life-partners.

So most people think I'm "straight".

My friends all know me as "bisexual".

Gays tell me I'm a "homosexual" ( because I like to have sex with men ). Apparently I'm just "in denial". 🙄

So yeah...what is the truth ?

Apparently everyone has their own truth and I have my own too. Who's opinion is more important ? I know LOTS of guys who identify as straight, yet have engaged in same sex activity. I think one's chosen identity is the one that should get the most respect not what someone else observed from the outside without the full story of what's going on in your mind and in your emotional existence.

Edited April 10, 2023 by pubic_assistance
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[+ glycine]

On 2/18/2023 at 1:57 AM, studchaser said:

Iterations of this thread pop up time to time because many of us like straight guys and trade. All those who post on this thread should either have an interest in straight men or feedback on a straight provider. 

Also just because someone has listed straight doesn't mean that should be tsken at face value. Use your street smarts and common sense 

Anyone have great feedback on authentic straight providers?

fuck yea im obsessed with serving straight men. Definitely online at least half aren't really straight, but ive had some amazing experiences - straight ones usually cant get hard unless their watching str8 porn, some never got hard but just verbally abused me .

Next year will be the year of the straight man for me I want to start dedicating at least half my income to my Superiors. 

[Guest]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:35 AM, glycine said:

... I want to start dedicating at least half my income to my Superiors. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

5 hours ago, Unicorn said:

This board is no place for sexual judgement.  

If he's happy with putting together the fetish or scene, then he's the one in real control.

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

This board is no place for sexual judgement... he's the one in real control.

But, over half his income? I'm not sure that's showing control and rational behavior. Perhaps some introspection might be in order. Much as I'm sure some people would love to benefit from his spending habits, the spending amounts appear to me to show compulsion, rather than control. Is the man who spends a fortune gambling in control?

Edited September 29, 2023 by Unicorn

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, Unicorn said:

But, over half his income? I'm not sure that's showing control and rational behavior. Perhaps some introspection might be in order. Much as I'm sure some people would love to benefit from his spending habits, the spending amounts appear to me to show compulsion, rather than control. Is the man who spends a fortune gambling in control?

Perhaps real or perhaps bullshit.  That's for him to decide for himself.  It is, after all, his money to spend.

You're also assuming that he's telling us the absolute truth and not getting lost in the fantasy.

To suggest his behavior comes from 'self hate' is pretty snap-judgemental for not knowing the guy personally and just spitballing on a (mostly) anonymous message board.

Edited September 30, 2023 by BenjaminNicholas

[Guest]

15 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Perhaps real or perhaps bullshit....You're also assuming that he's telling us the absolute truth...

[+ glycine]

On 9/29/2023 at 4:47 PM, Unicorn said:

But, over half his income? I'm not sure that's showing control and rational behavior. Perhaps some introspection might be in order. Much as I'm sure some people would love to benefit from his spending habits, the spending amounts appear to me to show compulsion, rather than control. Is the man who spends a fortune gambling in control?

Well its always better to shoot for the stars! But spending half of your income on a relationship that is also your entertainment isn't THAT crazy tbh lol, like who really puts 20% of the income into savings really lol

[+ glycine]

On 9/29/2023 at 7:39 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Perhaps real or perhaps bullshit.  That's for him to decide for himself.  It is, after all, his money to spend.

You're also assuming that he's telling us the absolute truth and not getting lost in the fantasy.

To suggest his behavior comes from 'self hate' is pretty snap-judgemental for not knowing the guy personally and just spitballing on a (mostly) anonymous message board.

It's also a goal it's not a current reality! lol 

But yea I'm fine with that. My goal is to find a long term sugar husband(s), and it's such a huge motivation and inspiration for me that its worth the price.