US Department of Homeland Security is monitoring Rentmen for out of country visitors into US

[BonVivant]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:44 PM, Unicorn said:

I'm wondering if other posters have heard of other escorts getting caught for not reporting income. More than once, I've recommended to escorts I hire to report at least half of their income. 

Hmm. Providers should have LLCs. They are lifestyle consultants and therapists after all. Maybe some are masseurs. All good businesses. 

[+ augustus]

I find this fascinating considering how the government can't seem to put a dent in the fentanyl and cocaine trade.

[BonVivant]

18 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

There has got to be some privacy law being violated here.

EDIT: By allowing facial recognition based on the open internet to trigger a law enforcement check.

Not at the international border! You have no right to any privacy.  When you are at the Border you are subject to Immigration & Customs, as well as searches, questions, etc. You have no right to enter any country other than the one of your citizenship. 

[BonVivant]

12 hours ago, Vulgarii said:

 

All cultures colonize, just some didn't have the weapons and ships yet, and I want my borders safe and protected especially from those that want to execute me for being gay, and jail, physically punish, and/or execute gays in their countries.

It’s too late for that. Lot’s of 7th c AD medieval attitudes in advanced countries. Most of these folks were let in because of a false equivocation philosophy that all religions are at the same level of advancement. It’s False. 

[BonVivant]

2 hours ago, TooSchoolForCool said:

The government is not monitoring rentmen or rentmasseur.  They will pull you out if you look suspicious or if you are traveling frequently in and out of the US.  They WILL go through your phone and your photos and look at your mobile Apps.  If you are a service provider and don't delete all of that before you enter the US, you will get busted.  

Is the same at all borders?

[Beancounter]

1 hour ago, ChasingGirth said:

Come on guys it has nothing to do about paying taxes or not. The face recognition tool has been put in place to protect us. We are the number one target in the planet for terrorists. It has been created to prevent attacks against our country. If a bad guy travels in we want him stopped. In statistics someone breaking the law at some levels is likely to break the law again and again. 

Now most of « our guys » that travel to our country are sweet guys but they are still working illegally, doing prostitution and let’s face it, for most of them doing some sort of drugs. 

So when you see it like that it doesn’t look so innocent. 

Would you go to any European countries, knowing that you are going to work illegally and break the law? 

Personally I wouldn’t and I’m sure most of us wouldn’t. 

if you plan on taking risks, weight the pros and cons and act accordingly to protect yourself from being caught, that’s all. 

If you truly believe everything you’ve posted I must ask you in all seriousness if you hire prostitutes, either foreign or domestic.  If you do then you are breaking the law and contributing to an illegal activity.  
 

I’m not trying to pick a fight here, rather, I’m trying to understand your mindset.  It strikes me odd that you’re an active participant on a website that endorses escorts yet you roundly criticize escorts for engaging in prostitution and in essence accusing them of being criminals. 

[ChasingGirth]

38 minutes ago, Beancounter said:

If you truly believe everything you’ve posted I must ask you in all seriousness if you hire prostitutes, either foreign or domestic.  If you do then you are breaking the law and contributing to an illegal activity.  
 

I’m not trying to pick a fight here, rather, I’m trying to understand your mindset.  It strikes me odd that you’re an active participant on a website that endorses escorts yet you roundly criticize escorts for engaging in prostitution and in essence accusing them of being criminals. 

My friend, where I live in the state of NY, prostitution is legal. I can pick up a prostitute in the street in NYC in front of a cop they won’t prosecute any of us. 
Before you accuse people of illegal activities please be aware of the law. 

[ChasingGirth]

41 minutes ago, Beancounter said:

If you truly believe everything you’ve posted I must ask you in all seriousness if you hire prostitutes, either foreign or domestic.  If you do then you are breaking the law and contributing to an illegal activity.  
 

I’m not trying to pick a fight here, rather, I’m trying to understand your mindset.  It strikes me odd that you’re an active participant on a website that endorses escorts yet you roundly criticize escorts for engaging in prostitution and in essence accusing them of being criminals. 

And I’m not criticizing any escorts. I never used the word criminal. Don’t put words in my mouth. 

[jtwalker]

On 11/15/2022 at 10:35 PM, Emir said:

Testimonial: 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CiZ5VhkAPdP/

Facial recognition scanners don't work with 2D photos.

[ChasingGirth]

55 minutes ago, Beancounter said:

If you truly believe everything you’ve posted I must ask you in all seriousness if you hire prostitutes, either foreign or domestic.  If you do then you are breaking the law and contributing to an illegal activity.  
 

I’m not trying to pick a fight here, rather, I’m trying to understand your mindset.  It strikes me odd that you’re an active participant on a website that endorses escorts yet you roundly criticize escorts for engaging in prostitution and in essence accusing them of being criminals. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/nyregion/manhattan-to-stop-prosecuting-prostitution.html

[jtwalker]

Legal is becoming a fuzzy matter in the US as various institutions are over-burdened and cherry-pick which laws they will enforce based on local political preferences.  SF is a prime example of this where one could argue that shoplifting is not illegal in that it is not currently enforced.

Edited November 17, 2022 by jtwalker

[Colton]

I bet some, possibly even most, of these cases were people who overstayed on their previous visit to the US.  In fact, two people immediately come to mind where this was the case.

If you come from a visa waiver country like the UK or Czech, you probably don't realize you can only stay for 90 days.  And since the US doesn't have an exit immigration check, you may think staying over 90 days will be undetected.  But exit tracking is done by the information you submit to the airlines. 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

My friend, where I live in the state of NY, prostitution is legal. I can pick up a prostitute in the street in NYC in front of a cop they won’t prosecute any of us. 
Before you accuse people of illegal activities please be aware of the law. 

 

2 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/nyregion/manhattan-to-stop-prosecuting-prostitution.html

The fact that the DA of Manhattan won't prosecute doesn't mean state law has changed. 

[ChasingGirth]

11 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

 

The fact that the DA of Manhattan won't prosecute doesn't mean state law has changed. 

It’s been more than a year and a half. All pending cases have been dismissed. It takes years for a law to be changed, sometimes decades. The fact that they don’t prosecute is what matter. They continue to go after sex traffickers of course. 

[ChasingGirth]

20 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

 

The fact that the DA of Manhattan won't prosecute doesn't mean state law has changed. 

Here is the bill:

New York State Senate

Senate Bill S1351 

SIGNED BY GOVERNOR

 

2021-2022 Legislative Session

Repeals section 240.37 of the penal law, relating to loitering for the purpose of engaging in a prostitution offense; repealer

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S1351

[Guest]

1 hour ago, ChasingGirth said:

Here is the bill:

New York State Senate

Senate Bill S1351 

SIGNED BY GOVERNOR

 

2021-2022 Legislative Session

Repeals section 240.37 of the penal law, relating to loitering for the purpose of engaging in a prostitution offense; repealer

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S1351

Obviously, repealing only the law related to loitering for the purpose of prostitution does not change the laws on prostitution proper.

[coriolis888]

2 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

Here is the bill:

New York State Senate

Senate Bill S1351 

SIGNED BY GOVERNOR

 

2021-2022 Legislative Session

Repeals section 240.37 of the penal law, relating to loitering for the purpose of engaging in a prostitution offense; repealer

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S1351

This is another case of "clapping with one hand" whereby there is no logical effect. 

Even though the police will not arrest sex workers selling their product, they most assuredly will arrest and prosecute those who make an offer to "buy" sex services.

What a crazy mixed up world we have.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akgz9e/manhattan-is-moving-to-decriminalize-sex-work-kind-of

[coriolis888]

5 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

My friend, where I live in the state of NY, prostitution is legal. I can pick up a prostitute in the street in NYC in front of a cop they won’t prosecute any of us. 
Before you accuse people of illegal activities please be aware of the law. 

Sorry, the above statement is false - 

https://jeffreylichtman.com/new-york-city-prostitution-lawyer/charges/

[ChasingGirth]

41 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Sorry, the above statement is false - 

https://jeffreylichtman.com/new-york-city-prostitution-lawyer/charges/

All these lawyers have not updated their websites. Prostitution is no longer prosecuted. 

[ChasingGirth]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

This is another case of "clapping with one hand" whereby there is no logical effect. 

Even though the police will not arrest sex workers selling their product, they most assuredly will arrest and prosecute those who make an offer to "buy" sex services.

What a crazy mixed up world we have.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/akgz9e/manhattan-is-moving-to-decriminalize-sex-work-kind-of

That is not crazy, for example if you go to a hotel and you try to solicitate sex for money to an housekeeper it is punishable by law.

That is not the same as buying servicing from an escort or a prostitute. The escort / prostitute are willingly offering their time for money. 

[coriolis888]

1 hour ago, ChasingGirth said:

That is not crazy, for example if you go to a hotel and you try to solicitate sex for money to an housekeeper it is punishable by law.

That is not the same as buying servicing from an escort or a prostitute. The escort / prostitute are willingly offering their time for money. 

Wrong! 

If you are still talking about NYC and most other cities in the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States

Dictionary definition of:

mis·guid·ed

/ˌmisˈɡīdəd/

 

adjective

 

1. having or showing faulty judgment or reasoning.

    

   Read this link again:

    

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States

Edited November 18, 2022 by coriolis888

[mike carey]

6 hours ago, Colton said:

If you come from a visa waiver country like the UK or Czech, you probably don't realize you can only stay for 90 days.  And since the US doesn't have an exit immigration check, you may think staying over 90 days will be undetected.  But exit tracking is done by the information you submit to the airlines. 

Unless things have changed since my last visit in 2019, the immigration stamp in your passport has the date you are authorised to stay in the US. Not clever to ignore that date. When you check in for your flight home, your information is passed to the immigration authorities, as you said, even if you have a domestic flight to your overseas gateway. Conversely, when I flew on QF12 from New York to Los Angeles and had a stopover there rather than continue on QF12 to Sydney, my NYC check-in isn't reported to them.

[ChasingGirth]

51 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Wrong! 

If you are still talking about NYC and most other cities in the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States

Dictionary definition of:

mis·guid·ed

/ˌmisˈɡīdəd/

 

adjective

 

1. having or showing faulty judgment or reasoning.

    

   Read this link again:

    

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States

Yes I’m talking about the state of NY. I assume that the people that are reading this saw my initial post. I posted initially this because I was accused by another member of doing something illegal for hiring escorts. I am not. 

[coriolis888]

1 hour ago, ChasingGirth said:

Yes I’m talking about the state of NY. I assume that the people that are reading this saw my initial post. I posted initially this because I was accused by another member of doing something illegal for hiring escorts. I am not. 

I think most members of this forum have hired escorts from time to time despite bizarre laws that make it a crime to engage in such an act. 

Additionally, many members of this forum are providers. 

Considering the above facts, I gave you a citation to confirm that prostitution is illegal in the U.S.  

Just because prostitution remains illegal does not mean that gays and educated scientists feel that the law is just or makes sense. 

Medical research confirms that homosexuality is not a choice one makes about living one's sexual life.  Unfortunately, medical research is far advanced compared to the antiquated thinking of those who make homosexuality and prostitution illegal. 

Nonetheless, going back to the topic of this thread, I personally know of several Brazilians who live in the U.S. and live off prostitution on at least a part-time basis. 

Two I know have been in the U.S. several years.  They came here on student visas but, except for escorting, they live a crime free life and never have been asked about their citizenship by authorities. 

They both know that if they get caught with an expired visa, they will be sent back to Brazil and will be barred from visiting the U.S.  

So, bottom line is that even though prostitution is alive and well throughout most of the world, in the United States, it remains illegal except in minor areas of Nevada.  

 

Edited November 18, 2022 by coriolis888

[ChasingGirth]

56 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

I think most members of this forum have hired escorts from time to time despite bizarre laws that make it a crime to engage in such an act. 

Additionally, many members of this forum are providers. 

Considering the above facts, I gave you a citation to confirm that prostitution is illegal in the U.S.  

Just because prostitution remains illegal does not mean that gays and educated scientists feel that the law is just or makes sense. 

Medical research confirms that homosexuality is not a choice one makes about living one's sexual life.  Unfortunately, medical research is far advanced compared to the antiquated thinking of those who make homosexuality and prostitution illegal. 

Nonetheless, going back to the topic of this thread, I personally know of several Brazilians who live in the U.S. and live off prostitution on at least a part-time basis. 

Two I know have been in the U.S. several years.  They came here on student visas but, except for escorting, they live a crime free life and never have been asked about their citizenship by authorities. 

They both know that if they get caught with an expired visa, they will be sent back to Brazil and will be barred from visiting the U.S.  

So, bottom line is that even though prostitution is alive and well throughout most of the world, in the United States, it remains illegal except in minor areas of Nevada.  

 

If you read the entire thing I was just responding to a member finding ironic that I critized escorts, hire them and on top of that, that I was doing something illegal. 

I love escorts from everywhere, I mentioned before that I believe they all are good guys. 

I was just voicing my opinion on wether or not they should post their travel plans if they are coming from abroad. That’s all.