Have you ever made an escort sign an NDA?

[Jay DC]

I had a great time with a provider in LA once and afterwards we were chatting about some renovations I was planning for my home. He said he had done something similar once. He got his phone out and pulled up pictures of the project (which was well done). He handed me his phone and said I could scroll through because he kept any Indiscreet photos in a locked file that needed both a passcode and a fingerprint to open. Of course as I was looking at the project up popped a pic of a very high-profile actor, totally naked, clearly high and sporting a respectable semi-erection. I handed the phone to him letting him know he had a stray pic. He was genuinely horrified. He had signed an NDA and all electronic devices were collected upon arrival by the actor’s security detail — so it begged the question to me how had his locked phone file and the security detail both fail?  Turns out he had visited several times and as he was leaving after the 6th or 7th visit, the actor allowed the pic to be taken after security had returned the electronics to the escort.   the actor walked the escort to the door and security was none the wiser that a pic had even been taken-good judgement is not always this actor’s claim to fame. The provider said he intentionally did not put the picture in the secure file because people always want to look there and rather than risk it, he buried in the one file he was sure no one would ever want to look at—only I’m nerdy enough to ask to see this hot studly escort’s shade structure. And that’s not a euphemism.   I also mentioned to him that NDA’s can be hard to enforce but his lawyer said it’s a moot point because this actor has the resources to keep the issue tied up in the court system for years  The agreement also called for the provider to put a ridiculous amount of money in escrow in the event the court rules in the actor’s favor and it would be returned if the court ruled in the provider’s favor. And the escort was responsible for both sides legal fees.  If the agreement fails in court (and they almost always fail) it would run up big legal bills, open the provider up for prosecution of any illegal activities, alert the whole world (including his mom) about his professional activities and consume so much energy that the provider loses no matter the legality. Whether it’s enforceable or not doesn’t matter. Look how much it’s been debated in this thread with nothing at stake. And this guy took it seriously and pleaded with me not to ever reveal the actor’s name.  He said I didn’t have to pay for our session as a token of his appreciation  I told him to keep the money as a token of  my respect (and the provider was awesome).  I told him if he wanted me to sign an NDA, I would.  He finally laughed and felt better.  I have told this story before but not the actor’s name.  The provider moved from LA to someplace I can’t remember and I’ve never connected with him again, although I would if the timing ever worked out—and if he’s even still in the business. It’s really integrity that should drive the conversation, not legality. If you sign your name promising to do or not do something—mean it—or you’re just a liar. This escort meant it and I respect him for it.  And beyond the enforceable or not enforceable  document, this provider had earned the actor’s trust and friendship and wasn’t going to betray him  

 

[FrancisCA]

I did have one famous Rapper hire me once. This person is very high profile but didnt make me sign anything but i knew this is something i shouldnt be dropping all over town. He even openly supports Trump EEK. Maybe when a gay escort scandal happens ill come forward ha! 

[+ Lucky]

18 minutes ago, AsianGuyCA said:

I did have one famous Rapper hire me once. This person is very high profile but didnt make me sign anything but i knew this is something i shouldnt be dropping all over town. He even openly supports Trump EEK. Maybe when a gay escort scandal happens ill come forward ha! 

Ye should come....forward!

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Jay DC said:

....And the escort was responsible for both sides legal fees....

 

A common provision of a contract is that the prevailing party has the right to recover legal expenses, but I doubt it's legal for a contract to say that the loser in a lawsuit gets to recover legal fees. That would be kind of crazy. Maybe one of the lawyers can chime in on this matter. I can't imagine it's legal for a contract to say that I would have to pay your legal expenses no matter how outrageous and frivolous your lawsuit is. 

[coriolis888]

9 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

A common provision of a contract is that the prevailing party has the right to recover legal expenses, but I doubt it's legal for a contract to say that the loser in a lawsuit gets to recover legal fees. That would be kind of crazy. Maybe one of the lawyers can chime in on this matter. I can't imagine it's legal for a contract to say that I would have to pay your legal expenses no matter how outrageous and frivolous your lawsuit is. 

If the agreement is to prevent disclosure of prostitution, the contract is not valid.  

It matters not about paying legal fees for attempting to enforce an illegal contract.  

Edited October 20, 2022 by coriolis888

[former lurker]

14 hours ago, Unicorn said:

A common provision of a contract is that the prevailing party has the right to recover legal expenses, but I doubt it's legal for a contract to say that the loser in a lawsuit gets to recover legal fees. That would be kind of crazy. Maybe one of the lawyers can chime in on this matter. I can't imagine it's legal for a contract to say that I would have to pay your legal expenses no matter how outrageous and frivolous your lawsuit is. 

The losing side does not generally get its costs paid.  The contract provision discussed above is not ultimate payment, but placement of the anticipated court costs into an escrow account in case that side loses.  If s/he prevails, the escrowed funds are returned.  But the requirement to place the costs in escrow is itself a potential hardship. 

[arnie]

And what exactly is the penalty outlined in the NDA  for exposing (pun intended) the encounter?   And what is the benefit to the client?   If there is no action by him, then he can just dismiss it as gossip.   If he sues you in court, for disclosure  or slander, he is just giving credence to your allegations.  Court actions are public.   Headline Senator John Doe wins 1K for escort violating a NDA about their encounter on 1/1/2003

[Quincy_7]

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClXFklKN33L/c/17940793640323861/r/18325929247006485/

Christian Lundgren mentions in a reply to a comment on this pic that he signed an NDA. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Quincy_7

[coriolis888]

15 minutes ago, Quincy_7 said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClXFklKN33L/c/17940793640323861/r/18325929247006485/

Christian Lundgren mentions in a reply to a comment on this pic that he signed an NDA. 

He is located in Africa.  Laws there have no effect in the U.S.

[Quincy_7]

7 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

He is located in Africa.  Laws there have no effect in the U.S.

Regardless of the enforceability of the document, the point is that the porn star/escort believes that he is bound to secrecy.

Moreover, I don't know that an NDA would specifically state that the escort must keep silent on the fact that they were hired for sex. It would be a terrible lawyer who drafted such a document. More likely, the language would generally address the escort's silence on meeting/interacting with the benefactor generally. Even if you hire an escort, you're not sleeping with them 100% of the time that they're in your company so an NDA which just generally proscribes mention of the meeting/interaction would be reasonably tenable.

[PetetKsfo]

Has anyone read the book or seen the movie about Scottie Bowers?   He is the gas station attendent turned escort from the 1040s who provided services himself and also connected other escorts to Hollywood starts.    He divulged their stores when he was in his 90s and his former clients long deceased.      I am actually sorry that I saw the film, as I don't think it is my business who he had as clients.    I would not divulge anyone's story no matter how much longer after the fact.

[The Dude]

On 9/27/2022 at 8:49 PM, Rudynate said:

I don't have much to hide.  Seems silly.

But others might; like high-profile celebrities, businessmen or politicians.

[Rudynate]

2 hours ago, The Dude said:

But others might; like high-profile celebrities, businessmen or politicians.

The title of the thread was "Have YOU ever made an escort sign an NDA."

 

I agree that others may have more at stake than I do.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, PeterMxM said:

.... Hollywood starts.    He divulged their stores...

[SirBillybob]

All the time. What an eyeful my executors will get rifling thru documents signed eg HotTop21cm, etc. 

Is not at least one party if not both parties going to reveal legal name(s) for a signed agreement. I cannot think of many encounters where both my true name and the providers true name are explicit. I am very far from famous but I have had a modest regional public profile and have presented on “educational TV” (not PBS). Clearly unknown by South American and European providers, though.

Escort usually has a ‘nom de plonger’ and I am ‘Grampy’, formerly ‘Daddy’. Do I want a paper trail, irrespective of its actual legal thrust? Seems to me that requires a trade-off of least partial anonymity for formality; six of one, half a dozen of another. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by SirBillybob