Montreal strip clubs are back in full swing

[Sydneysider]

I finally made my second trip to Montreal since 2016 and after the pandemic. I arrived on the 1st of April when Canada no longer require a pre-departure covid test.

Still jetlagged from my 21-hour flight, I unpacked at my AirBnB, I showered and I headed straight to Campus. I paid $2 to check in my coat plus $6 to get in. It was busy with about 30% female in the audience. I counted 8 very sexy dancers on stage, who did two sets of dance. First, when they come out wearing jeans and partially removing them to show either their arses or top of their undies. Second, when they come out with a raging hard on. I had my eyes on a very muscly guy about 6'4 who reminded me of the porn star Ricky Sinz. He didn't seem to be interested in getting any business from men as he was mostly flirting with the female audience. Then the audience gasp when this guy Gabriel did his second set. I said to myself, 'Imma get this guy in the backroom'...but he was snatched by someone else as soon as he got off the stage. Not my lucky night, I thought, so I went to the bar and bought another beer. By the way, I felt that the Mexican-looking bartender didn't like me. I've waved and waved at him but he was deliberately ignoring me. I got his attention eventually and got my second beer. Gave him $20 and told him to keep the change, you silly bitch! I sat on a stool near where the pool table is, not hoping to get a lap dance that night. I intended to finish my drink then call it a night. Then I felt a tap on my back. I turned and it is, Gabriel!. We said our 'how-do-you-dos' and then headed in the back. He did not disappoint. My hands were all over his body while he was dry-kissing me on my neck, forehead and face. I asked if I can suck his dick but he said no because he's straight and then showed me pics of his gf on his phone as proof, I guess.

The following night I went to Stockbar paying $4 entrance + $2 to check in my coat. The guy complimented my scarf so I gave him $2 tip. The club is not as busy as Campus with only 4 dancers and about 20 patrons. I immediately noticed Ronnie when I entered the club. I got my drink and sat down and have observed him going from one patron to another. They all must have said no to him because he would leave and go to the next person. My heart was beating fast when he approached the guy on the table next to me. I was hoping that the guy would say no too so I would be next. The guy did say no but Ronnie skipped me and went to the room where the dancers stay when they're not dancing instead. 

Another guy, Adam, approached me, who's friendly and also handsome like Ronnie. But you know that feeling when you had your eyes on someone/something that you're trying to get but could not get? I told Adam that I'm interested but I will get back to him later. He said 'ok, cool' and then he left. 

A second guy (Jay) approached me. Nice looking but rude and arrogant. When I gave him the same reply I gave to Adam, he left abruptly. (Later in the evening he would approach me again and when I said no, he rudely told me, 'what else are you doing here?'. I've had my lap dance already and bought 4 beers at $9 each plus tips, so I told him matter-of-factly that I am not interested in him. That must have hurt his feelings but I won't let anyone talk to me like that).

Then I saw Ronnie again fresh from giving someone a good time in the back. I stared at him trying to get his attention but another guy grabbed him and they both disappeared in the back. I decided to play the poker machine while waiting for him. I put in $20 and lost; I put in another $20 and won $200!. I collected it and Adam saw it, and he joked that my winning would pay for 10 songs in the back. I liked his care-free attitude and I think he's really cute so I said okay. 

As we were choosing which room to use, I caught a glimpse of Ronnie's jeans on the floor next to his tennis shoes under the closed curtain. I can only imagine what was going on behind it and it made me jealous. Thankfully Adam was very sexy and gave me an excellent session. I didn't give him all my winnings though as I'm saving it for Ronnie next time. 

But the next time didn't happen because I left that night when Jay annoyed me. Also the club was closed Mondays and Tuesdays and I left Montreal for New York on Wednesday so I was really saddened that I didn't meet Ronnie. BTW Ronnie on the Stockbar website is different from today. He is hunkier and has a better hair-do.

I was hoping to meet Frank or Ryan in Stockbar but I didn't see any of them. I must have gone the wrong night (Saturday).

The Village and the rest of Montreal look like they're still recovering from the pandemic. I found The Village a bit rough and dirty compared to six years ago. There's a lot of junkies along Ste-Catherine. Most businesses are either closed permanently or partially open. The Underground City is dead. Masks are required on buses and trains and inside the train station. I remember being very excited the first time I visited in 2016 but I didn't have the same feeling this time. 

Anyway, the rest of the city may still be trying to get back on its feet but at least the strip clubs are back in full swing to give us joy and happiness we craved after two years!

Edited April 24, 2022 by Sydneysider
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[+ KensingtonHomo]

Thanks for sharing. We're going to Montreal next month. 

Curious what you can expect from a dancer if you go to the backroom. 😏

[alrajee]

I was last in Montreal last September, and while it was still very touch and go with Covid-19 (the Delta and Omicron variants have yet to manifest during that time), I did think that it was on the road to recovery. Heck, I remember the line going to Unity snaking outside Saturday evening.

I'm glad to hear things are doing a lot better since then, even though it's still a ways to go.

[Luv2play]

14 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Thanks for sharing. We're going to Montreal next month. 

Curious what you can expect from a dancer if you go to the backroom. 😏

In the old days (20 years ago) you could regularly expect to give a blow job once you donated at least $60. There were no women except on ladies night so no distractions for these mostly straight dancers.

If you spent more than $100 you could often get the guys to cum if they were not about to dance again. This was mostly at Campus, I never much fancied the other strip joints which numbered another 3 or 4. I even got the cute bartender at the back bar at Campus to cum in my mouth. Those were the days!  

Edited April 25, 2022 by Luv2play

[Luv2play]

I don't know why this should surprise anyone who has experience going back several decades. But I understand that doesn't include everyone on this forum.

I still visit Montreal on a semi regular basis but recently have not been drawn to the Village. The surroundings downtown are more upscale and I have adapted to the internet and Rentmen. 

Still, I recall the old thrill of the hunt and do miss it.

[SirBillybob]

6 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I even got the cute bartender at the back bar at Campus to cum in my mouth. Those were the days!  

Impressive multi-tasking. Had you ordered the White Rush-in cock-tail? 

My major re-introduction to Campus, and Stock (on Amherst at the time, I think), happened to be exactly 20 years ago. I think dances jumped from $10 to $20 per song around 2005-6. In 2004 I did hours with a regular when it was more open concept with customers essentially seated side by side and thus strippers also sometimes bro-hollering among themselves. Eventually I just hosted him at home weekly. There were also dances openly right at tables and a really hot guy could make me blow my load in my panties by simply gyrating in my lap.

I didn’t notice much fellatio at that time and it wasn’t occurring with my fave, but it is certainly possible with some dancers within the subsequent structural set-up.

It’s not a priority for me, and I tend to be OK with doing it on a one-time basis to get it ‘out of my system’ if obsessed with a guy, but hard to assess the agreement possibility because I rarely propose it and like the thrill of being offered it spontaneously. I also prefer to know how much hygiene between client encounters occurs, and there is a higher rate, sadly, of STD babies among the partners of male commercial sex workers, these women not engaging in female prostitution. I think it is sanitation wipes at most at Campus and Stock. When asked, many of the dancers seem to have a minimal grasp of STDs and those performative aspects are normalized because of the bro culture among them.l and profit bottom lines. Nevertheless, the flesh is weak and I myself have suck-umbed. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by SirBillybob

[kingsley88]

Wow! I went to Campus once with friends back in summer 2006. Back then it was $10 per song in the back but I recall we weren't allowed to touch the guys during the lapdance but they could touch us. I guess things have changed or it just depends on how much money you're willing to give them.

 

[Luv2play]

My memory is starting to fade a little on the exact sequence of events but I do remember Stock when it was located on St. André below Ste. Catherine. They moved to the corner on Montcalm and Ste Catherine when I was living on Montcalm, maybe around 2005.

Certainly I remember 2003 as that was when Campus made major changes in their layout with many more booths that had curtains and certainly facilitated play. Later the curtains came down, sadly, and it wasn't quite the same. 

Taboo had side by side benches with no barriers at that time so very little happened beyond fondling. There was Adonis as well but much smaller upstairs where the booths were. The area at the back was not very private.

Imo, the early 2000s were the halcyon days if you were looking for some wild fun.

Edited April 25, 2022 by Luv2play

[Luv2play]

50 minutes ago, kingsley88 said:

Wow! I went to Campus once with friends back in summer 2006. Back then it was $10 per song in the back but I recall we weren't allowed to touch the guys during the lapdance but they could touch us. I guess things have changed or it just depends on how much money you're willing to give them.

 

For a time there was a two tier price policy, 10$ for vanilla and 20$ for all dressed, so to speak. Eventually it was 20$ across the board.

[SirBillybob]

23 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

My memory is starting to fade a little on the exact sequence of events but I do remember Stock when it was located on St. André below Ste. Catherine. They moved to the corner on Montcalm and Ste Catherine when I was living on Montcalm, maybe around 2005.

Certainly I remember 2003 as that was when Campus made major changes in their layout with many more booths that had curtains and certainly facilitated play. Later the curtains came down, sadly, and it wasn't quite the same. 

Taboo had side by side benches with no barriers at that time so very little happened beyond fondling. There was Adonis as well but much smaller upstairs where the booths were. The area at the back was not very private.

Imo, the early 2000s were the halcyon days if you were looking for some wild fun.

Oops sorry, of course I meant St-André a block west of Amherst that is now Atatekan. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by SirBillybob

[12is12]

Sorry to interrupt this walk down memory lane, but as a newbie I'm confused.

Nowadays, is it or isn't it allowed to touch them, suck them, be sucked by them ?

[Luv2play]

26 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Sorry to interrupt this walk down memory lane, but as a newbie I'm confused.

Nowadays, is it or isn't it allowed to touch them, suck them, be sucked by them ?

There is no simple across the board rule in my experience but I haven't stepped foot in a stripper bar since the pandemic started. Prior to that each establishment had its own etiquette and then individual dancers interpreted that in their own way.

You won't see signs posted " no sucking of dancers." But you can get a pretty good feel for how things go just by observing, asking people both clients and dancers, and just basically trial and error. As the judge says, it doesn't hurt to ask.

Edited April 25, 2022 by Luv2play

[+ newatthis]

14 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Sorry to interrupt this walk down memory lane, but as a newbie I'm confused.

Nowadays, is it or isn't it allowed to touch them, suck them, be sucked by them ?

 

13 hours ago, Luv2play said:

There is no simple across the board rule in my experience but I haven't stepped foot in a stripper bar since the pandemic started. Prior to that each establishment had its own etiquette and then individual dancers interpreted that in their own way.

You won't see signs posted " no sucking of dancers." But you can get a pretty good feel for how things go just by observing, asking people both clients and dancers, and just basically trial and error. As the judge says, it doesn't hurt to ask.

Adding to the above....

I've found that respectful trial and error is the only sure way of finding out the limits.  Dancers vary enormously in what they will permit and do, even from day to day.  At one extreme are those who will refuse even to undress until you've committed to a certain number of songs.  At the other?  A few years ago, there was a dancer at Campus who was notorious for getting fucked in the back rooms.  (I never verified this personally, but 10-15 years ago I did have a dancer take out my dick, start playing with it, and then -- before I realized where this was going -- sit himself down on it.)

Asking a dancer ahead of time what he will do?  They often don't know themselves at that point.  They might even <gasp> stretch the truth to entice you into spending on them.  Asking other clients?  If it's someone you know and trust and who trusts you, that might work, but just because a dancer let client A blow him doesn't mean he's going to do the same for you.  And experienced clients will often feel protective of dancers who allow them liberties, to avoid difficulties with management.

Edited April 26, 2022 by newatthis

[SirBillybob]

When in Canada …

Nothing about the private dance is legally allowed for the client and everything about it is legally allowed for the dancer because the direction of cash or in-kind payment is unilateral. The federal illegality is a binary for the consumer, where the threshold of breaking the law occurs at the juncture of commencing the physical components of the transaction. Obviously there is a theoretical gradient of breadth of offence according to erotic components, but the law essentially turns a blind eye to all of it so it is impossible to discern the legal consequences according to hierarchy of sexual transaction. The forbearance is based on the assumption that nothing truly bad or damaging to the broader community is being done.

Since 2014 the dancer does his thing with impunity and anything sexually agreed upon and undertaken has the flavour of greater exposure to legal risk, for the dancee, along the hierarchy of sexual components. This reality along with the illusory aspects of a range of offence sets an arbitrary boundary of limits easily imposed by the dancer, in a manner similar, but not identical, to the time previous to the implementation of the Nordic model of commercial sex work implementation. Ironically, if I’ve got this right, there is essentially now greater latitude for the dancer to communicate for purposes of sexual transaction.

The dancer may set limits, before or during, with an implicit unstated reference to the law when in fact he is sorting the range according to the many variables that otherwise influence his willingness to step up. Within those parameters exists a personalized range of private dance components that may occur spontaneously or upon overt negotiation but is not a uniform set of favours that the consumer can or should expect. For example he may wince at the idea of a particular thing while trying to convey that everything else on the table will be worth it for you. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by SirBillybob

[Luv2play]

23 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

When in Canada …

Nothing about the private dance is legally allowed for the client and everything about it is legally allowed for the dancer because the direction of cash or in-kind payment is unilateral. The federal illegality is a binary for the consumer, where the threshold of breaking the law occurs at the juncture of commencing the physical components of the transaction. Obviously there is a theoretical gradient of breadth of offence according to erotic components, but the law essentially turns a blind eye to all of it so it is impossible to discern the legal consequences according to hierarchy of sexual transaction. The forbearance is based on the assumption that nothing truly bad or damaging to the broader community is being done.

Since 2014 the dancer does his thing with impunity and anything sexually agreed upon and undertaken has the flavour of greater exposure to legal risk, for the dancee, along the hierarchy of sexual components. This reality along with the illusory aspects of a range of offence sets an arbitrary boundary of limits easily imposed by the dancer, in a manner similar, but not identical, to the time previous to the implementation of the Nordic model of commercial sex work implementation. Ironically, if I’ve got this right, there is essentially now greater latitude for the dancer to communicate for purposes of sexual transaction.

The dancer may set limits, before or during, with an implicit unstated reference to the law when in fact he is sorting the range according to the many variables that otherwise influence his willingness to step up. Within those parameters exists a personalized range of private dance components that may occur spontaneously or upon overt negotiation but is not a uniform set of favours that the consumer can or should expect. For example he may wince at the idea of a particular thing while trying to convey that everything else on the table will be worth it for you. 

As usual, concise and to the point.😉

[SirBillybob]

12 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

As usual, concise and to the point.😉

Hahaha … I’m filling in time trying to grasp and convey the dynamics that have assisted me to push the envelope and that may assist foreign nationals in the end, when in fact I would much rather be spending time at the venues but for the heyday a distant nostalgic memory. I’m now boosting non-Canadian gig economies. For visitors, unlike us, satisfying curiosity may be as important as rating satisfaction. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

It could be ambiguous to have a sign regarding the sucking of dancers because the corollary would be a sign indicating the dancers suck or not. 

[Lazarus]

9 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

When in Canada …

Nothing about the private dance is legally allowed for the client and everything about it is legally allowed for the dancer because the direction of cash or in-kind payment is unilateral. The federal illegality is a binary for the consumer, where the threshold of breaking the law occurs at the juncture of commencing the physical components of the transaction. Obviously there is a theoretical gradient of breadth of offence according to erotic components, but the law essentially turns a blind eye to all of it so it is impossible to discern the legal consequences according to hierarchy of sexual transaction. The forbearance is based on the assumption that nothing truly bad or damaging to the broader community is being done.

Since 2014 the dancer does his thing with impunity and anything sexually agreed upon and undertaken has the flavour of greater exposure to legal risk, for the dancee, along the hierarchy of sexual components. This reality along with the illusory aspects of a range of offence sets an arbitrary boundary of limits easily imposed by the dancer, in a manner similar, but not identical, to the time previous to the implementation of the Nordic model of commercial sex work implementation. Ironically, if I’ve got this right, there is essentially now greater latitude for the dancer to communicate for purposes of sexual transaction.

The dancer may set limits, before or during, with an implicit unstated reference to the law when in fact he is sorting the range according to the many variables that otherwise influence his willingness to step up. Within those parameters exists a personalized range of private dance components that may occur spontaneously or upon overt negotiation but is not a uniform set of favours that the consumer can or should expect. For example he may wince at the idea of a particular thing while trying to convey that everything else on the table will be worth it for you. 

 

[Lazarus]

I have no idea what this means but it sounds important. 

[SirBillybob]

14 hours ago, Lazarus said:

On 4/24/2022 at 5:28 PM, KensingtonHomo said:

Thanks for sharing. We're going to Montreal next month. 

Curious what you can expect from a dancer if you go to the backroom. 😏

 

Edited April 27, 2022 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

Let us know.

Edited April 27, 2022 by SirBillybob

[SirBillybob]

5 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

Let us know. 

It must be the important thing. It’s asked repeatedly. I don’t do spreadsheets but somebody should. 

Edited April 27, 2022 by SirBillybob

[Sydneysider]

On 4/26/2022 at 8:26 AM, 12is12 said:

Sorry to interrupt this walk down memory lane, but as a newbie I'm confused.

Nowadays, is it or isn't it allowed to touch them, suck them, be sucked by them ?

I'm pretty sure that the stripper will let you go down on him if the price is right. Not sure they'd return the favour though.

[SirBillybob]

17 hours ago, Sydneysider said:

I'm pretty sure that the stripper will let you go down on him if the price is right. Not sure they'd return the favour though.

Sounds like an answer drawn from the sex trade handbook, but you were also here recently, so ...

In some cases what is actually ambiguous has the flavour of clarity. I think it’s a fair and well-intentioned response, perhaps even grounded in a visit.

However, I have lived here for 20 years, and in my experience whether fellatio occurs in a private lap dance is decoupled from cash amounts negotiated or paid. Because it is a different take I should elaborate rather than simply contradict. So, for those with the right attention spans: 

Almost any time fellatio occurred it had not been discussed ahead of time. The only stipulation is that no lap dance will commence that does not culminate in the [ahem] client’s orgasm; that is something framed as the prospective inevitable outcome of the dancer’s appeal, not an expectation. Let me also categorically say that I am certain there is nothing special or advanced about my capacity to get what I want from dancers and I am always basically one down. 

But feel free to specifically ask the dancer. The single time I inquired the baseline quote was $900; a straight physique model dabbling in solo porn. He knew I was not a cop; at the time it was a criminal offence to communicate about transactions, and this discussion was in a public venue. This is obviously an outlier and not meant to illustrate the trend of response, so I don’t know if there is or should be an upsell these days and I do not engage on that level even recently, as indicated. He obviously does not like to do it but was able to get that amount with clients here and in NYC sorted by wealth and by potential profit for him. We worked out an arrangement for this component but it was based on regularity.

More recently a young newbie customer from another continent was sitting beside me at one of the venues and reticent about discussing his wants with any dancer. He eventually asked one of the strippers and was disappointed to get $600 as an answer. I did not get further involved in the details. Other than that, I have no idea what clients are donating beyond $20 per song and have little need or interest in the info because I doubt it would have any impact on what I do or get for what I give. 

In 40 years I have never spent more than $300 up here, never more than $200 in the club booths (disconnected from acts ranges), and in 7 years visiting Brazil up to $50 on average for “full” encounters choosing preferred type from a huge inventory of gym-fit guys. 

However, on this board I also recently saw members doing pom-pom backflips over a visiting escort ad that some reported would be $ thousands for the evening and they opined well worth it. In that context, $900 is low. For the recent advertiser’s price I could fly to Brazil for a week covering all expenses and have a field day with many scorts (I JO to between visits), all without choosing from pics and obscured faces, and without the peculiarities of a thread alluding to a match between the guy’s true images via a circuitous route from ad to de-anonymous public domain representations. 

The point is that one dancer in Montreal in my very limited experience discussing price ranges brazenly aimed high, relatively exorbitant, and it was based on a trade-off between profit and comfort, and his years of knowledge about where to choose an arbitrary price point. But since financial gain seems not to be very evident as a factor determining oral in the majority of lap dances with an aggregate of a few dozen fellows I have obtained over decades, who’s to say? I don’t ask a dancer why it happened when it happens because that would be ludicrous to me. If somebody else should choose to, it isn’t necessarily risible; it’s just a different need.

Visitors may also benefit from a different playbook if they are hell bent on getting a particular performative act rather than endure the uncertainty of that component transpiring. One may pay more to avert a certain defined dealbreaker (ie, no oral) but that approach does not work well for me. 

Cue the rudeness. 

Edited April 30, 2022 by SirBillybob

[Sydneysider]

On 4/25/2022 at 7:28 AM, KensingtonHomo said:

Thanks for sharing. We're going to Montreal next month. 

Curious what you can expect from a dancer if you go to the backroom. 😏

You can discuss this with the stripper prior to going to the backroom. Most are upfront and would tell you what they'd do. I'm very vanilla so  this type of setting suits me just fine. I can't discuss the detail on here but pm me if you want a more titillating account.