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…Because it doesn’t work and it’s not worth doing it anymore.
 

This may come as a surprise considering I usually am an advocate of booking sessions with some notice, but for now on…the most notice I’ll be giving for travel cities is the amount of time it takes to get there from wherever I’m departing from, on the day of. “Maybe” the day prior if I’m already en route to a city, and certain to be passing thru on my way.

I am so tired of the wasted time, hope and energy communicating with inquiries in other cities and states, only to be told they can’t meet when I arrive. Some even cancel or flake as I’m commuting to the destination. Today it happened 3 times. Actually was 4: one gave a deposit the Friday and still cancelled Sunday, claiming to be sick. 2 others sent cancellation courtesy, the other just didn’t even bother. 
 

And then, I have been posting before I went to Denver since February. Especially because it’s become such a impossible market due to the amount of guys there likely out number the clients. But yet I didn’t meet with a single person who contacted me when I was advertising in advance. Either they were from out of town or didn’t respond to my messages when I arrived. The only bookings I had were 2 long time regulars and 1 “almost” client who contacted me after my appointment with my regular. I didn’t even take the booking because it was too last minute. 
 

This is very similar to the thread here: 

 

I don’t know the specifics for other guys, but I can imagine the not so advance booking guys out there probably are doing it for good cause: who the fuck wants to waste time and energy trying to book sessions before arrival, only to be told the person can’t meet once you do?? And then all it does is cause arguments and fallouts with clients because, I will have them on my “guest list”, and then I arrive after paying for travel expenses and hotels, and they don’t come thru.

And the other problem is: we can’t even advertise in a different city without putting dates up. I don’t understand why the fuck these sites don’t make it easier to advertise in a city just for visibility like RentBoy used to allow. RentMen used to also, but then they force us to put dates up if it’s further then 250 miles away from the “current” city, as if clients are making our schedule like an employee business trip. It’s not like clients are cutting us checks, booking hotel rooms and flights/travel with conference dates like a regular job. I’m just 1 person, trying to figure out a multi city trip. The dates are going to get messed up sometimes. It takes a lot to leave my home for a week or 2, get everything I need done to prepare to travel, etc. Guys put expectations on us to get places, but don’t understand the leg work to get there.

I have figured it out that clients these days, operate on a Grindr mentality. There doesn’t seem to be enough commodity for sex workers, to book anything out in advance anymore. It used to be something I could do back in 2012, but in 2022 very few clients are consistent in the business. It seems like every trip I did last year, all the clients were people I booked the day of, or the day before. 
 

This will make planning trips easier and harder in some ways. I’m usually open to go on trips with limited funds, with the confidence that I’ll make back what I spend plus more. But now, if I don’t have enough travel money to feel comfortable with (getting there and back plus 2 nights minimum hotel in case nobody shows up), I likely won’t do the trip at all anymore. 

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One small suggestion I have is why not utilize the "Traveling Providers" forum on here? You can post a thread saying for instance "April 2022 East Coast Tour" and list cities that you are able to or planning on visiting or see where guys on the forum might want you to come. And then edit it as you can lock down more specific dates and cities. Not saying that will come close to solving the problem but I think you'll get at least two or three more reliable bookings.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloKyle said:

One small suggestion I have is why not utilize the "Traveling Providers" forum on here? You can post a thread saying for instance "April 2022 East Coast Tour" and list cities that you are able to or planning on visiting or see where guys on the forum might want you to come. And then edit it as you can lock down more specific dates and cities. Not saying that will come close to solving the problem but I think you'll get at least two or three more reliable bookings.

Yeah I suppose that would be a good way of going about it if someone is able to  notice that a bit further out. 
 

Similar to the other thread running about providers changing plans, sometimes that’s an issue I run into as well. In the past month, seems like every time I’ve been ready to “go” somewhere, there’s a major weather event that had me either postponing or going along anyway…and being snowed  in for 2 days and wishing I didn’t go thru the trouble of going.

I could only go to warmer destinations, but from my area the option is limited to Texas within a day commute. It seems a lot of people I speak to in the Midwest are moving to Texas, but the escort scene is too crowded and overdone. Many of the opportunity locations are in the northern areas. All those cities like Atlanta, Dallas and Houston and Phoenix with the good weather, there’s like a million escorts all trying to meet the same clients. 
 

Hence a message I received from a client I been communicating with for nearly a month, and was expecting to meet him when I arrived to town:

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🤦🏽‍♂️ Like really bro? Really? 

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5 hours ago, Luv2play said:

Actually I can empathize with the client who said his ass needs a break.😅

I figure at least he was honest, in a sleazy kinda way. 
 

I been mulling over how to go about doing it. I know one porn escort guy told me years ago, not to advertise further out than 2 weeks, because by the time you get there, they won’t be horny anymore. I think that’s a reasonable time limit, though not as predictable. Even that could be too long. I think more like 2 days is the limit 😆 

What I have been doing, is posting in cities before I even had a date planned, just to give people the opportunity to notice me before I arrive. Considering that 1 or 2 days visiting a city isn’t really enough time for the whole city to notice someone. But then by the time I get dates planned and get it into action, the same people from 2 weeks ago, usually aren’t available anymore.

I think going forward, I’ll only advertise in advance as long as I’m actively in between destinations. Right now I have advance locations, but I know it’s going to be within the week that I arrive because I’m already traveling and have bags packed. But trying to plan trips in advance while still at home, or on the back end of the trip, it’s just too many changes that can get in the way on both sides.  

Like right now, I know I’ll be going back thru Denver before the month is out…but I’m not going to post again in my travel dates until I am back. And I never post in my home location at all while traveling. Because by the time I get back home, most of the people who contacted me while I was away maybe made other plans.

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As  a client, I try to keep all my appointments and when i make plans, they are pretty concrete. However, I have communicated with providers who are coming to NYC... they state they are coming yet turns out they are only "feeling" the waters and trying to gauge interest. So it really does not make sense to advertise until you are a day or two away from actually arriving. 

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If you think the strategy will work, give it a shot.  The worst thing that happens is you go back to announcements.  No harm, no foul.

In terms of which cities are going to be fruitful for you, I'd say look at the places where people are traveling to frequently for work.  There are several cities where convention business is back in decent swing.

There's also something to be said for a soft rebrand.  Look at your website, socials, etc and see if you can tweak anything to make it pop, better understood and simply more engaging.  Always remember that less is more.  Keep it simple, clean and clear.

I'm sorry you're dealing with all of this shit.  It can run you ragged after awhile.

 

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11 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

If you think the strategy will work, give it a shot.  The worst thing that happens is you go back to announcements.  No harm, no foul.

In terms of which cities are going to be fruitful for you, I'd say look at the places where people are traveling to frequently for work.  There are several cities where convention business is back in decent swing.

There's also something to be said for a soft rebrand.  Look at your website, socials, etc and see if you can tweak anything to make it pop, better understood and simply more engaging.  Always remember that less is more.  Keep it simple, clean and clear.

I'm sorry you're dealing with all of this shit.  It can run you ragged after awhile.

 

Yeah it definitely does get raggedy! Especially the guy who sent the deposit, but cancelled at 2:30 pm saying he woke up “this morning” with the sniffles and congestion. Fair enough, but I rushed to leave my friends beautiful downtown Denver condo while they were starting an episode of RuPaul…on a Sunday morning after a long night out AND time change. So I could be on time to the session because I had a long drive. He didn’t want to reimburse the rest of the fee (because after all, some think just because we are already coming to town anyway), they don’t understand that an appointment lost, may be money lost for that DAY. But now he’s earned his place on Mr. Number with the rest of the deviants lol. And I don’t even think he was sick, I think he just had a last minute change of decision for whatever reason. 

Fortunately, I made up for the loss by having other clients. I even got permission from 2 clients to do my 1st ever double-client session (they both wanted the same time, and I didn’t want to turn down one over the other). I can write an anonymous book on that. WOW 😆 

I understand some see things as the client being right and free to do whatever, but I think there’s a deeper level of expectation involved when a provider is making concessions out of their lives to accommodate bookings. I know specifically, @Jamie21takes a very non liability concept in favor of clients, which is understandable in a busy bustling market like London…may be so. But I do small markets where 1 client may be all I get that day/slot of day.
 

Meanwhile, my expenses don’t stop. And yes, conferences and business meetings are back in full swing, and the hotel rates have been reflecting that. I feel like hotels and gas are double the amount this year. I don’t even stay downtown in many cities anymore, because it’s too much. I don’t see much purpose or reason in paying in excess of $100 a night for a hotel room, out of pocket as a single gay man. Unless it’s a resort or a large suite. And I hardly ever wind up in a crappy hotel unless I’m visiting an expensive, overbooked town and rates are crazy.

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