Will most Americans be gay by the turn of the next century?

[Rocky93]

On 2/22/2022 at 5:38 AM, DR FREUD said:

Do people really think that Earth will still exist and be habitable to humans in 80 more years?  Unless we can develop domes to live under I doubt humans will still exist by the turn of the century.  

Please don't listen to AOC!  Climate change doesn't happen like that!!!

[+ Tygerscent]

5 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Sexual attraction, a "decision"?  What an inane notion. My cojones know instantly who I find attractive, and who I don't. If you need to sit around and think about who you find attractive, maybe you might want to have your testosterone levels checked. (I remember having a patient who had trouble deciding to whom he was attracted--as it turned out, he had no testicles due to Klinefelter's Syndrome. We fixed that problem--the low T, not the absence of testicles, of course)

I don't sit around deciding that I find this person attractive:

And this person a real boner-killer:

 

I feel very sorry for anyone who has to sit around "deciding" who he finds attractive. 

 

Of the two above, neither really do it for me, in part because it’s it a picture and I don’t really know anything about them as people. That makes a big difference to me in sexual attraction~  
 On my “let’s make babies” list are these: (they all have something in common: compassion, humor, complexity, intelligence and an inner innocence/playfulness… those qualities are erotic to me). 
 I like/lust for them in no particular order: (I’m also attracted to them whether young or old).
 1). Elizabeth Taylor - I’d be fwb with her. Not marriage material. 
 2). Sophia Loren - I want babies with her. Wife material. Definitely babies together. lots of them~ Cary Grant could be the kids uncle~  
 3). Cary Grant - fwb & babies: long term dating but not a husband. 
 4). Quyanh Trang - babies and romantic love with her… Wife material. She sings this song and I melt. https://youtu.be/20ufebbTowM
 5). My mom - genuine, fun, funny, classy, honest, intelligent, gentle~ I’m not looking at her lustfully like I wanna have sex with her but, if she wasn’t my mom and I was to meet her I would probably fall in love because she poses qualities I’m attracted to emotionally and physically. 
6). James Garner - bf & babies~ Husband
7). Cary Grant again - I am attracted this guy… So, maybe sex and dating and then we remain life long friends and still have sex but are not dating~ 
8). Yvonne De Carlo - fwb dating life long friend. 
9). Jovi - the male love of my life. Brilliant chemist, silly boy, instant love relationship with him. Died at age 36~ Miss him every day. 
10). My mom again - it’s just a fun picture of her. I’m proud of my mom… she was 66yrs old there~   
11). Jovi again - still hot for Jovi~ Such a silly Fucker he was~   
12). Still in love romantically and physically with my GF of 14yrs. She is the female love of my life. Our lives are on separate paths but, we are still very much connected and I feel for her still what I felt for year when we were physically together~ She is not pictured here~ 

Edited March 5, 2022 by Tygerscent

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, Tygerscent said:

Yvonne De Carlo - fwb dating life long friend. 

Ah Yvonne !  Even in heavy monster make up she always gave me a boner.

[marylander1940]

18 hours ago, latbear4blk said:

I think you may have a reading and comprehension issue. Or my English is just fucked up. Take a read at Berger & Luckmann's book.

 

14 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

The last comment would indeed indicate a comprehension issue. Still rattling on about things that haven't been said.

Below the belt and unnecessary! 

14 hours ago, latbear4blk said:

You get to a certain point in a conversation where you realize that there is no drive from curiosity and exploration but just need of reaffirmation. 

Then, I give up.

 

Does @xyz48B need reaffirmation? 

Does he have a reading comprehension problem when he disagrees with others? 

I don't think so! 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2022 by marylander1940

[pubic_assistance]

28 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Does he have a reading comprehension problem when he disagrees with others? 

Anyone is free to disagree. That's what makes a lively conversation.

The problem I experience frequently with this issue is a constant disagreeing without reading (or more likely understanding) what's been said. To keep a conversation on track it's problematic to have it hijacked with arguments over things that weren't even said in the first place. 

[Rudynate]

20 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Constant responses that are disconnected from the conversation, would indicate there is some reading disability or cognitive issues. 

 

Or a compulsive need to be heard - kind of like Ivanca Trump trying to talk policy with Angela Merkel and Christine LaGarde.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Tygerscent said:

... 
 It’s a bit of an assumption asserting that testosterone levels is what determines what gender one is sexually attracted to...

Oh my God. Testosterone doesn't determine which gender a person is attracted to. It determines how horny a person will be towards whatever gender(s) that person is attracted to. And it's not that complicated to understand that sexual attraction doesn't translate to whom you'd want to have a relationship with. I understand that straight men were very attracted to Elizabeth Taylor in her day (obviously nothing for me), but I suppose too many men were foolish enough to think she was relationship material and married her. I remember after seeing the movie I Am Number Four that I was sexually attracted to the star, Alex Pettyfer, but I read that he was a real asshole in person. So had the opportunity presented itself, I would have consented to sex with him, but since his personality was unattractive, I wouldn't have been interested in pursuing a relationship.

Most men with testosterone levels in the usual reference range for adult men will know fairly immediately whether or not they're sexually attracted to another person. Again, this does NOT mean they like the person for who they are or that they're interested in developing a relationship with that person. And there are certainly a lot of people who'd never think of having sex with someone they don't respect and appreciate as a whole person (I'm definitely not one of those people). However, if a man looks at another man or woman's naked body and cannot figure out if he's sexually attracted to that other person, that is NOT normal, and should be checked out medically. 

[+ WilliamM]

1 hour ago, Unicorn said:

Oh my God. Testosterone doesn't determine which gender a person is attracted to. It determines how horny a person will be towards whatever gender(s) that person is attracted to. And it's not that complicated to understand that sexual attraction doesn't translate to whom you'd want to have a relationship with. I understand that straight men were very attracted to Elizabeth Taylor in her day (obviously nothing for me), but I suppose too many men were foolish enough to think she was relationship material and married her. I remember after seeing the movie I Am Number Four that I was sexually attracted to the star, Alex Pettyfer, but I read that he was a real asshole in person. So had the opportunity presented itself, I would have consented to sex with him, but since his personality was unattractive, I wouldn't have been interested in pursuing a relationship.

Most men with testosterone levels in the usual reference range for adult men will know fairly immediately whether or not they're sexually attracted to another person. Again, this does NOT mean they like the person for who they are or that they're interested in developing a relationship with that person. And there are certainly a lot of people who'd never think of having sex with someone they don't respect and appreciate as a whole person (I'm definitely not one of those people). However, if a man looks at another man or woman's naked body and cannot figure out if he's sexually attracted to that other person, that is NOT normal, and should be checked out medically. 

Wow. You must have been attracted to Kim Novak in "Bell Book and Candle or Alfred Hitchcock films.

[+ Tygerscent]

15 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Oh my God. Testosterone doesn't determine which gender a person is attracted to. It determines how horny a person will be towards whatever gender(s) that person is attracted to. And it's not that complicated to understand that sexual attraction doesn't translate to whom you'd want to have a relationship with. I understand that straight men were very attracted to Elizabeth Taylor in her day (obviously nothing for me), but I suppose too many men were foolish enough to think she was relationship material and married her. I remember after seeing the movie I Am Number Four that I was sexually attracted to the star, Alex Pettyfer, but I read that he was a real asshole in person. So had the opportunity presented itself, I would have consented to sex with him, but since his personality was unattractive, I wouldn't have been interested in pursuing a relationship.

Most men with testosterone levels in the usual reference range for adult men will know fairly immediately whether or not they're sexually attracted to another person. Again, this does NOT mean they like the person for who they are or that they're interested in developing a relationship with that person. And there are certainly a lot of people who'd never think of having sex with someone they don't respect and appreciate as a whole person (I'm definitely not one of those people). However, if a man looks at another man or woman's naked body and cannot figure out if he's sexually attracted to that other person, that is NOT normal, and should be checked out medically. 

Is what you are meaning to say is, that is not normal/typical for you perhaps~? There is a difference between what is normal between one person and another~ 

Edited March 6, 2022 by Tygerscent

[Cooper]

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[Guest]

3 hours ago, Tygerscent said:

Is what you are meaning to say is, that is not normal/typical for you perhaps~? There is a differed between what is normal between one person and another~ 

What I'm saying is that if you took a group of 100 adult men whose testosterone level is within 2 standard deviations of the mean for adult men, and gave them a large set of photos, asking them to put photos on one side of those they found sexually attractive, and those they didn't, most men could perform that task quite quickly (though, of course, there would be some photos they'd find only slightly sexually attractive). It's not a task they'd spend hours on "thinking" and "deciding." 

Yes:

No:

Edited March 6, 2022 by Unicorn

[xyz48B]

14 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

What I'm saying is that if you took a group of 100 adult men whose testosterone level is within 2 standard deviations of the mean for adult men, and gave them a large set of photos, asking them to put photos on one side of those they found sexually attractive, and those they didn't, most men could perform that task quite quickly (though, of course, there would be some photos they'd find only slightly sexually attractive). It's not a task they'd spend hours on "thinking" and "deciding." 

Like a Rorschach test, of sorts. Too much thought renders a useless result. 

15 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

No:

 

Oh, come on! Who doesn’t think Larry David is a living Adonis?! 🤣 

[+ WilliamM]

1 hour ago, Unicorn said:

What I'm saying is that if you took a group of 100 adult men whose testosterone level is within 2 standard deviations of the mean for adult men, and gave them a large set of photos, asking them to put photos on one side of those they found sexually attractive, and those they didn't, most men could perform that task quite quickly (though, of course, there would be some photos they'd find only slightly sexually attractive). It's not a task they'd spend hours on "thinking" and "deciding." 

Yes:

No:

Too many photos

[Guest]

3 hours ago, WilliamM said:

Too many photos

 

[Rudynate]

11 hours ago, Unicorn said:

 

I used to have sex with hot guys who were assholes, but I felt dirty afterwards.  Now, liking somebody is at least as important as his looks.

[xyz48B]

4 minutes ago, Rudynate said:

I used to have sex with hot guys who were assholes, but I felt dirty afterwards.

It can be hard to know if a guy is an asshole before you meet if it’s escorting. Unless of course he’s a bottom! 😂 

I’ve found some guys extremely attractive until I get to know them. Then they become ugly to me. If they’re jerks. But a homelier guy can become more attractive if he has a good personality. That said, if I don’t know anything about personality, I can still be attracted to a guy.

On a related but different note, I think there’s also a difference between recognizing someone is good looking, attractive, hot, etc. and being turned on by them. I can appreciate and identify a good looking woman; she still doesn’t turn me on. I don’t think society taught my body to not have a physiological response to seeing a good looking woman, even if I “know” she’s attractive.

[+ WilliamM]

On 3/5/2022 at 11:03 AM, marylander1940 said:

 

Below the belt and unnecessary! 

 

Does @xyz48B need reaffirmation? 

Does he have a reading comprehension problem when he disagrees with others? 

I don't think so! 

 

 

@latbearblk tirelessly ledthe Black Lived Matter information battle here.

He deserves praise for that and his other contributes to this site