orville Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 "My pictures are recent and verified" Even verified, it's funny when the ad description reads "my pics are recent" but the upload dates are from 3/4 years ago. Nodalguy, Clintbr, MikeBiDude and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ keroscenefire Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 As accurate as all these are, I do want to stress that in my experience "scamming" is extremely rare in this hobby. It's only happened twice to me out of dozens of times hiring. And only one of them was a real rip-off experience. The other was someone who just had really outdated pics. Although I do think I successful avoided a scam once by just being suspicious of a profile, so I guess I took the advice to heart. Haha. Rocky93, StarGZ and + azdr0710 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz48B Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Every time the escort insisted on a deposit up front, I got burnt. That doesn’t mean I don’t offer to pay something ahead to show I’m serious, but I think I’d really think twice about being asked for a deposit. LTH and + keroscenefire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ keroscenefire Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I guess this isn't something you would necessarily see on the profile, but when things just don't add up in your conversations with an escort. There was this sexy new guy in Denver that initially came across as being very naive and new to escorting, which like hey if that's the case I still might be interested. But then he quoted me this really high price for Denver and when I said I wasn't interested at that price, he started to talk about how it was really the standard price in New York when he escorted there and yadda yadda yadda. Are you actually new to escorting or are you actually this experienced escort that should charge this high NYC price? + glutes and LTH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami9uito Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I'll add a couple as well: 1) Fuzzy, dated or otherwise poor resolution photos. 2) Frequently changing usernames. 3) Refusal to show their face even privately 4) "Ask Me" for Orientation and/or Position. 5) 5 year old profile with no reviews. How about changing profile names, but they show their face, and you have their address and phone already? Or another who keeps asking when the appointment will be. jtwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Deposit? The best ones I’ve seen don’t even demand the money upfront. And I’ve learned to walk away from those that do. EastbayMike, jtwalker, Nodalguy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emir Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 BabyBoomer and + glutes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enronnja Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 ‘Ask me’ is usually the biggest red flag. EastbayMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtwalker Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 11:11 AM, orville said: Even verified, it's funny when the ad description reads "my pics are recent" but the upload dates are from 3/4 years ago. I've added old photos to my list of scammer signs. At best, old photos usually means someone hasn't aged well. I have also noticed that some providers keep posting the same photos over again to spoof the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swimmerfan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 My personal favorite "No attitude" aka there will totally be attitude, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtwalker Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Swimmerfan said: My personal favorite "No attitude" aka there will totally be attitude, lol Similar to, "I'm into everything", which usually means "I don't do anything". + glutes and starman05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSR Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, jtwalker said: Similar to, "I'm into everything", which usually means "I don't do anything". "I'm into everything" can also mean "that'll be extra." starman05 and jtwalker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Scammer Checklist: Put their stage name in the Search field in m4m-fourm.org jtwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) One flag for me is what great “chemistry” they offer. (Meeting with these “chemists” actually produces the opposite, in my experience.) Offering chemistry doesn’t even make sense. It takes two to have chemistry. (And, of course, tango.) Edited December 20, 2021 by Cliff soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalguy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 12/20/2021 at 6:15 AM, Cliff said: One flag for me is what great “chemistry” they offer. (Meeting with these “chemists” actually produces the opposite, in my experience.) Offering chemistry doesn’t even make sense. It takes two to have chemistry. (And, of course, tango.) I actually say that "shared chemistry is vital" on my profile, but it's just one of a series of double entendres that sound fairly normal to most people but will be obvious to guys who like to party.. Maybe these guys are doing something like that? If you can send me specific examples, I can take a look and let you know what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalguy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 12/19/2021 at 8:30 PM, glutes said: Scammer Checklist: Put their stage name in the Search field in m4m-fourm.org I don't get this. Can you explain? Isn't that a pretty old, out of date, and now defunct site that's been archived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Nodalguy said: I don't get this. Can you explain? Isn't that a pretty old, out of date, and now defunct site that's been archived? Welcome to the forum. That quoted post was made almost two years ago. Edited September 1, 2023 by azdr0710 + glutes and Nodalguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Nodalguy said: I actually say that "shared chemistry is vital" on my profile, but it's just one of a series of double entendres that sound fairly normal to most people but will be obvious to guys who like to party.. Maybe these guys are doing something like that? If you can send me specific examples, I can take a look and let you know what I think. Geez, I didn’t even think of it, and tes, that makes perfect sense to me now. Two providers I know that include this word have been Dutch PR in LA and MuscleVIP but both of their ads are expired. I’ll keep looking for other examples. Thanks! Nodalguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalguy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, Cliff said: Dutch PR in LA and MuscleVIP That is 100% what is going on with those two guys 🤣. Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA90046 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Cliff said: Geez, I didn’t even think of it, and tes, that makes perfect sense to me now. Two providers I know that include this word have been Dutch PR in LA and MuscleVIP but both of their ads are expired. I’ll keep looking for other examples. Thanks! 4 hours ago, Nodalguy said: That is 100% what is going on with those two guys 🤣. Their profiles are expired but not inaccessible -- both also have/had "PNP" listed in the "I am Into" section of their profiles. DUTCHPR - Male Escort, Gay massage - West Hollywood | Rent.Men RENT.MEN DUTCHPR Gay Escort in West Hollywood, California, available for Gay Escorting,Modeling,Erotic Massage. | Find all the best Male Escorts at Rent.Men "🔥 Take the hot time you have always wanted, with discretion and good chemistry." "🔥Discretion and good chemistry!!!" MuscleVIP - Male Escort, Gay massage - New York City | Rent.Men RENT.MEN MuscleVIP Gay Escort in New York City, New York, available for Gay Escorting,Modeling,Erotic Massage. | Find all the best Male Escorts at Rent.Men "🔥 Good Chemistry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, LA90046 said: Their profiles are expired but not inaccessible -- both also have/had "PNP" listed in the "I am Into" section of their profiles. DUTCHPR - Male Escort, Gay massage - West Hollywood | Rent.Men RENT.MEN DUTCHPR Gay Escort in West Hollywood, California, available for Gay Escorting,Modeling,Erotic Massage. | Find all the best Male Escorts at Rent.Men "🔥 Take the hot time you have always wanted, with discretion and good chemistry." "🔥Discretion and good chemistry!!!" MuscleVIP - Male Escort, Gay massage - New York City | Rent.Men RENT.MEN MuscleVIP Gay Escort in New York City, New York, available for Gay Escorting,Modeling,Erotic Massage. | Find all the best Male Escorts at Rent.Men "🔥 Good Chemistry" Yep. Exactly. Now it makes sense to me because they’re PNPers. You would think one mention of it would be enougj, though. Why list pnp AND chemistry? Guess they want to make really fucking clear they want to party ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalguy Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Cliff said: Yep. Exactly. Now it makes sense to me because they’re PNPers. You would think one mention of it would be enougj, though. Why list pnp AND chemistry? Guess they want to make really fucking clear they want to party ha ha More that they are saying they are connected and can actually hook clients up. Just listing PNP as an interest might mean theoretically you're into it and do it every few years but aren't connected, or that you're friendly to it if the client is into it and/or provides. Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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