Nodalguy

I didn't mean literally no one. Yes, there are those who like more mature men. But just in general, responses and interest decline dramatically when you hit 30. At least from everything I've seen.

When you hit 30 as a gay man, no one gives a crap about you anymore.

The very best providers, in my experience, do not ask for any money upfront. But I am okay with that if they have some history, many reviews, and all good ratings. Related, but if I pay up front, there will generally be no tip. If I pay afterward and I had a decent time, there will be a tip. I don't think I've ever paid in advance and then given a tip after the fact, but I suppose it could happen if it was really enjoyable.

I have run across innumerable "safe only" guys where, if you really examine the full profile including description text, there is no doubt that they are into BB and breeding. Honestly my mind kind of freezes and I struggle to process it for an instant or two. It's just so weird to me.

I hired a rentboy for a bit and we became really good friends after he gave it up. I took him traveling, visiting my favorite places. I've lent him money, which he has always repaid. I used to give him cash whenever I saw him, but it's actually been a bit since we last met in person, as we both moved to different states. These days I'll send him something via app for his birthday (or half-birthday in the latest case). We still text and talk very regularly. He called me and was close to tears years ago when I was going through a health issue and needed a couple major surgeries. He is a very genuine guy and I think consistently tries to do the right thing. So I know in at least one case a client and provider ended up getting along and started to like each other mutually.

I think much of the time (if they're vers), it means they are perfectly willing to top BB. I don't have a good sense of what it means if they are a bottom or you want them to bottom. But I could see them being less open to that. The other part is I think there are a lot of people into "anything goes" but just don't want to advertise that.

I agree and think he is trolling. But let's just say I am a little unimpressed with his efforts thus far.

Well, I was intentionally non-specific. It wasn't a good reaction, and it is not fun to think back to.

I reached out to him one time when I had been partying and had that insatiable hot tea horniness for some cock and cum. Another provider responded first and got his instead. He's not super my type, but definitely acceptable under those circumstances.

Hot. Ticks all my boxes. I've seen his profile before, but I don't see any signs that he's visited my area. And I don't see any phrases in his profile that I recall searching for. Someone bite the bullet and let us know how he is!

I'll just add that if there is a Twitter linked on an escort's profile, I will check it out. And oftentimes it makes very clear whether they are cool with being bred. But that isn't always the case.

I haven't hired many bottoms at all in my late escorting phase, although in my twenties I used to top a lot more (almost exclusively for the first half), so I figure I should ask what people's thoughts are on something I've been thinking about. If a bottom has "ask me" or "anything goes" safe sex status and is fine barebacking with you, is it generally the case that they are fine if you actually finish inside them, or is that a separate point to discuss? I'm sensitive to it because in my early twenties, I was topping a guy BB and he was totally fine with that, but then he had a very memorable reaction when I finished that always stuck with me. After that I mostly met up with guys from a site where everyone was into that, so never really ran across exactly the same thing that I remember. I find it a little embarrassing to confirm with the bottom in advance if he doesn't say anything about it... So I'm thinking it should be acceptable just to warn him when going at it that I'm going to cum soon, and then if he has some objection he can speak up? Does anyone have more experience with BB bottom escorts or ideas on how to ask about this subject in advance?

Your ability to stay true to character is, and I'm being sincere here, remarkable. I've always judged people on the basis of the things they do and say. And to some extent, everyone, including me, makes some assumptions or judgments based on how people look, but I am conscious of that and try to avoid it.

Yes, it was causing me actual pain, but I was a good boy and refrained from saying anything for a bit 🤫.

Just re-reading this now. You complain about Americans, even identifying particular geographical subsets that especially offend you, and yet dismissive arrogance and you are never far apart. You have got to be trolling 😂. Is it even possible for someone to hold these beliefs and spew such invective and yet be so unaware of himself? I want to be clear I hold zero ill will toward you and do not mean to offend you. My point is that I think it may be a good idea to take a step back and reconsider your views and attitude.

I found it incredible how much one's life changes as a gay man the moment one hits 30. Not completely dead but effectively moribund.

I just remembered one nice detail. At the end he told me that it's true, guys do do it better 🥰. I was a little proud, but then honestly how many different girls or women could a teenage high school boy possibly have been with? Not to mention who the competition themselves are.

There haven't been many people who honestly loved me, outside of blood relatives. But with one of those few, I had a similar thing come up. We had been boyfriends for a while when I ended up moving to a different state (and he ended up moving away as well shortly after me, although it's not clear to me whether he might have stayed if I had). I sometimes wonder about what would have happened if I had not moved and we remained together. I can tell you my life would have been very different. That is the only certain thing in my mind.

With PrEP, Doxy-PEP, and HPV and other vaccines, the main thing you need to watch out for is anyone with an open sore that could indicate a viral infection flareup, which is not common. (Not a doctor, they will probably tell you something very different out of an (over)abundance of caution.)

If they're bottoming, then they just have to assume the right positions and get into it (or convincingly feign getting into it). 🤣

Have you ever met up with a guy and realized during it or shortly afterward, "Damn, this is literally a once-in-a-lifetime experience. I will never meet someone so _____ again"? I was in another thread where I alluded a bit ago to an event that happened to me and made me think of this topic. I have a few experiences that begin to approach once-in-a-lifetime, but for me there is one clear guy in my mind who never be beaten. I was in South Carolina for work and browsing Grindr in my hotel room at night, and I made contact with this barely-legal bi-curious guy. He wouldn't send a facepic, but the photos he did send showed he had a great body. He came over to my hotel room that night, and I just couldn't believe it. Pretty deep voice given his age, dark blond hair, really handsome face, flawless smooth tanned skin, very masculine and muscular (without being too muscular) and really lean. He had a thick, meaty cock and big balls and a really cute but beefy butt. I spent the first ninety minutes literally just massaging, rimming, sucking, and generally worshipping every millimeter of his body. I am confident it will never happen to me again. I think I've had more actually fun sexual things happen (obviously I didn't party with the blond stud, and he wasn't experienced or very adventuresome), but I am speaking just in physical terms.

Ahh, I forgot about this. Yes, I remember I was stymied in sending a series of messages by OF's fascist censorship. In the one case I found and pulled up, I just asked "Do you ever visit [my city]?" And then told him that I had originally written more but OF monitors private messages and blocked it.

I'm not sure how you would locate profiles on Instagram of providers (obviously that's the hard part and I think the point of your question), but once you do there are tons of things you can say to indirectly indicate you are interested in hiring them. "Are you into generous guys?" "I'm happy to give you something for your travel expenses and time." And so on. In terms of actually locating guys, which I do on Twitter, I use Google searches (specifying "site:twitter.com" and including "'[my city]'") on different phrases : things like "m4m massage" "masseur" "gay escort" "gay client". I also have a number of more explicit things as well as Spanish phrases I search for, as I like Latino guys and I've noticed a number of recurring things that they say.

🤣 Good one. That is going to stick with me.

I think the circumstances can change things considerably. For example, I just started seeing this rentboy who's both new to me as well as to the scene. Because of that, he's charging pretty cheap prices compared to the going rate (so I have and plan to tip him considerably more to compensate for that because he definitely deserves it). When he raises his prices, I definitely won't complain. I actually told him once he has some regulars and good reviews, he needs to raise his prices for sure. On the other hand, I had one provider who asked for a deposit and then after that, his prices never adjusted to reflect that I'd paid it. And he also kept asking for more with seemingly zero memory of the services and prices we had already agreed to. One of the few things that really, really annoys me or turns me off is someone just being totally self-centered, money-focused, and making themselves, frankly, a rip-off as they have zero real interest in providing decent service. It reminds me of that ancient Horace quotation: "miraris, cum tu argento post omnia ponas, si nemo praestet quem non merearis amorem?" Which I would (somewhat loosely) translate as: "Are you surprised, when you value money more than anything else, if no one pays you the love you never earned?"