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I guess it depends on the "drug trafficking." Are we talking about organized gang activity or just small scale dealing? The first guy I mentioned who inadvertently revealed his real first name to me was my connection for a while. His record was just for Driving While Intoxicated (alcohol). He was very smart and extremely resourceful and could get anything. But after I think at least 35k of successful transactions (I was hooked on something for a bit and have since kicked it completely), he was setting something up on my behalf for only $750 that fell through and he just kept my money. I still say he was smart even though it was f-ing dumb for him to burn a bridge with me. He was an addicted daily meth user, and I have found some of them at times to be unreliable or to make questionable decisions.

Ahh, I didn't think of that because I don't have any subscriptions through my phone's app store. (I use Android, but it's pretty much the same. Just when I pulled up the subscriptions it was empty.) Thanks!

I was able to find out the real first name of a provider once because of an online service he used to send me some info. Using just that plus the fact that I knew he had been arrested and the general area and rough time period, I was able to search through public records and find out his full identity and pull his criminal record (had to pay for the criminal record pull, but I used the info I got freely to request it). A couple other rentboy regulars I also was able to look up with just their real first name and pull their criminal records. I didn't do anything with the info at all, but I did want to confirm what kinds of charges they were prosecuted for (nothing that concerned me, just possession of controlled substances and DUI, that sort of thing). Nothing violent, no theft or robbery, no fraud. I guess my point is just to be careful. Depending on the circumstances, even just a real first name can be really revealing.

Interesting. I haven't considered trying to find a provider on Instagram because of their ban on X-rated content. Twitter on the other hand is good for finding or learning more about providers, as they can post nudes or adult videos as well as text content that gives you a sense of them as a person.

Do you happen to know whether this is simple to do? Some services make it a royal pain in the butt to cancel anything (like requiring that you actually call in). I really wish some regulation would be passed so that all services with recurring billing that let you sign up online would have to offer one-click cancelation and suspension.

This suggests a strange interpretation of what I wrote.

I was also kind of hoping there was some UI functionality I was missing. It would be simple to add the functionality to buddy someone within a messenger chat window with that person (you can search for them and create a new messenger chat without actually viewing the profile).

Laziness. I figured someone else must have already gone through the same thing. Seriously, thank you for poking through and digging it up though 😘.

Maybe I'll just be more explicit. I don't know whether it was just the time and place (North Dallas about 6-11 or so years ago), which it may well have been since I haven't really seen it more recently in Chicago, but there were just a huge number of young, super hot Latino guys with mostly blank profiles on Grindr. Not sure what was going on (maybe having a Grindr profile was just less acceptable among them in that area?).

I'd say that's generally the way it should go. But there is the odd guy that turns out amazing, and after meeting him you wonder why the heck he doesn't post photos and more info (probably just being "discreet").

I've had at least one occasion, when traveling in.. kind of a backwater place, where I found a real "boy-next-door" that led to some great times. I want to say there was a second time like that, but I can't specifically identify it. Similarly, I don't immediately ignore mostly blank profiles on Grindr (I do like to see at least age and height/weight and maybe some other basics) because I've had a handful of situations come up where they really ended up being my type and leading to similarly nice times 🤣.

Yes. There are 2-3 cities in California that are just off the charts with amazing guys that meet my criteria. I'm not too hurting for choice at all (I think as of the latest run there are 73 providers in my city that meet my general search criteria, of course individual inspection will produce many fewer). I think New York is also a bit better than where I am, and I have seen really interesting profiles there, but not on the scale of Cali. But I also just had the most amazing experience with a rentboy in my city, and I'm confident he'll become my go-to. So it may not really matter for some time 😂.

In case this situation crops up again for me in the future, I figure it would be useful to have this knowledge on whether providers on Rentmen can be added (they can be removed without a visit via Buddy List) as buddies without adding another profile visit? Yes, I know I can turn off the visit notifications (I prefer to leave them on, and then if I happen across a bad fit, in that case I will delete the visit record as quickly as I can).I also know I can clear out the visit history, but my example below of what usually happens will explain why that won't always work. What usually happens: I'll find an escort, visit their profile, and then message them for more info or whatever. I'll close their profile and resume browsing for a minute or two. Then the escort responds. At that point, I think to myself I probably should have added them as a buddy. But because he already must have seen my visit, clearing it out and visiting again (new notification) in order to add him as a buddy would just be more bizarre than helpful. I try to avoid visiting more than one time just because it seems kind of obsessive or something like that.If it's been a long time since the last visit or I just have to visit in order to buddy or to reread the profile, then so be it. I'm pretty technical and would be comfortable sending raw authenticated HTTP POST requests to whatever RM endpoint if it exists, as well as comfortable modifying JS to send AJAX requests if that's how they do it.

These are just my thoughts as a client, but I can definitely understand what the complaint is and that probably tons of clients reach out wanting graphic wank material, or something like that. First, I do think in some cases a not-insignificant number of texts are warranted just to confirm things and make actual plans.I had one case where we must have had a couple hundred Whatsapp texts over 2-3 weeks by the time it was all done (I am sure given how much he ended up making from me, he was quite happy to work through the details like that). The reason we had so many texts in that case is that he canceled on me and we had to reschedule, and then the original rescheduled time didn't end up working for a few reasons, so we had to reschedule again. There was also some back and forth regarding deposits (which I no longer do, but did for this case), as well as different possible scenarios and pricing and so on. On top of that, he was doing some shady things with his payment transfer accounts, so I had to ask him for an explanation. I don't think a fixed number of messages "or I block" or "or I cut off contact," etc. is necessarily a good idea. I think the key is are the messages accomplishing anything? Is the client actually seeking to get information that will help him decide or make plans on rate, payment amount, potential partners, details on services, location, any "ask me" items, any enhancements, and so on. I'll admit I've had a couple exchanges where I wanted to confirm some details and it probably sounded like I was trying to generate wank material. But again, one or two messages in isolation don't mean much in my view. It's the overall trajectory and multiple recent messages and what they're accomplishing. If you want to cut it off, just be a little creative. "Can you reach out to me closer to the date we're planning to meet?" "Let's work through that in person." I'm sure other more creative people have or will provide more specific responses to cut off a wanker.

Yes, definitely give a bit of time for water to drain out, and jump up and down a bit to try to encourage it. And be sure to use a dildo or something like that, as it will push out the pockets of trapped water and help them drain out. In my experience, it's not a two-minute kind of thing: you really do need to spend a bit of time and really work your rear with it. Otherwise, if later on someone is in there really working it hard and/or deep for a while, they will push the water out that you didn't.

More that they are saying they are connected and can actually hook clients up. Just listing PNP as an interest might mean theoretically you're into it and do it every few years but aren't connected, or that you're friendly to it if the client is into it and/or provides.

That is 100% what is going on with those two guys 🤣.

I have been blocked once by a provider. I think he offers a legit massage, or at least it is mostly legit plus he is safe only. He opened my profile and immediately blocked me. The thing is that I was looking for only a good massage at that time, not anything else in my profile.

Andreep is cute, and I had a pretty good time with him. But he's also a bit of a clock-watcher, which I really didn't like.

I don't get this. Can you explain? Isn't that a pretty old, out of date, and now defunct site that's been archived?

I actually say that "shared chemistry is vital" on my profile, but it's just one of a series of double entendres that sound fairly normal to most people but will be obvious to guys who like to party.. Maybe these guys are doing something like that? If you can send me specific examples, I can take a look and let you know what I think.

Yep. Never again.

I will never again pay a deposit. If the provider demands one, then we're just not a fit and it won't happen.

My policy now is that I don't pay deposits, but on the one occasion that I did (that I can remember), the guy ended up really being a piece of work and jerking me around. Canceled the night before on me (I found out later, based on his reviews, to go to a different city to meet up with a client for an overnight but probably mainly so he could get rid of a recent bad review). Then his pricing ended up changing all the time and getting more expensive. I really should have just killed it there and asked for my money back (since he canceled on me) or given him a bad review. Finally, when it came time to meet up, I had to travel about 75 minutes on two buses to get to a really shady part of town. The trip home was also pretty eventful and not fun because of some transit work service outages. And there was a roommate at his place where he was hosting! We didn't end up meeting for anywhere near the full time agreed (at the end he was leaving to go somewhere, so I question whether he ever intended to spend the full time). I was a bit out of it so didn't notice we'd only spent half the time until I checked my phone on the walk to the train. He also didn't partake in the party at all (probably because he had those plans that cut our meeting short), which made things a lot less fun. Other red flags (that I experienced only after paying deposit): He had a setting on the messenger app we used that deletes all our messages after only 24 hours. He had multiple Cash App accounts. Wanted me to send him a huge amount (additional to deposit) in advance so that he could get a friend to join when I said it would be fun to have another guy. Constantly changing prices with seemingly no recollection of prior arrangements and prices agreed or consistency between them. He also seemed to totally forget about the deposit and his prices did not seem to reflect that I'd already sent him 200. Was big on selling fantasy versus making real plans that could happen and that would be enjoyable by everyone. The only good things about it were: he was reasonably hot and did match his pics/description; he was pretty professional about the actual service in a number of ways, even as some things went awry; and also he had an amazing connection really close by with great merchandise (although it was rip-off expensive... I think he literally doubled his connection's actual price and pocketed the split).

His look pretty legit to me, if you click on them and look at their profiles and reviewing history. But I didn't know that about the RM ratings changing.... It definitely explains some of the weird things I've seen with some shady providers. For example, take a look at the guy I linked below. The rentboy he reviewed so highly so often (the only one) was kind of a notorious, inconsistent, and I'll say "shady" guy (profile now completely deleted but I have his Twitter and can send privately). Lovehim - Reviews - Male Escort - Chicago, Illinois | Rent.Men RENT.MEN Verified gay escort reviews of Lovehim, Chicago, Illinois! Enjoy this amazing gay massage or gay escort near you.