Rates for extended sessions

[jawjateck]

Some escorts prefer one hour slam/bang one hour in and out appointments they don't want to be bothered with the extended togetherness of overnights. Thus they set a very high fee for overnights with the expectation that they won't be doing many.

 

I agree with Epigonos. A provider's rates tell you what duration he prefers, perhaps even excels. It makes no sense to hire a guy for a session that is outside his sweet spot. That is a disappointment in the making. My rule of thumb for finding a bargain and a good time is:

 

An average overnight is 3-4 times the hourly rate.

When the overnight is >4 times the hourly rate, the provider may not prefer that session, so it makes no sense to hire for the night. Schedule the shorter romp for fun and call it quits.

When the overnight is <3 times the hourly rate, the provider is signaling his interest in the longer session. In my experience, these overnights have almost always been win-wins for the provider and me and damn good times.

[+ DrownedBoy]

True enough but if what you say comes true, the foreign escorts visiting will be facing some new price competition. OTOH, we’re not talking about fungible assets here, we’re talking about individuals and their unique characteristics. If we’re comparing apples and oranges, and someone really wants the orange, they will pay more for it. Economics 101.

 

I guess I'm not as picky as other clients here, so they are more fungible to me. De gustibus non est disputandum.

[Wolfer]

I've never hired for overnight before but it's usually in the $1000 to $1300 range if you're in North America. If you're in some parts of Europe then the overnight rate can drop as low as a couple hundred bucks. I assume it'd be even cheaper in Latin America.

Western Europe has been getting more expensive the last few years when it comes to overnights. Five years ago the most common rate was 700 euro (mainland Europe. London is always priced higher). But lately the amount I see posted most often is at least 1000 euro for overnights now.

[Guest]

With COVID probably slowing down their business, why are they raising their rates?

[MscleLovr]

the amount I see posted most often is at least 1000 euro for overnights now.

 

I don’t dispute what you write @Wolfer but I strongly suspect that those are asking rates and, in current conditions, very negotiable

[builder boy]

What is the going rate for 24hrs/full day with an established guy?

1000 a day and 2000 for a Friday to Sunday

[+ keroscenefire]

Overnight rates frequently depend on whether or not the escort likes them. Let's say an escort charges $300 per hour and $1,500 for an overnight. This is a pretty good indication that he is not terribly interested in doing overnights. In order to equal his $1,500 overnight fee he would have to do 5 one hour appointments at $300 in one day or evening -- not terribly likely on a regular basis. Even if he charged $900 for an overnight he would have to do 3 regular one hour appointments to equal that amount. An overnight usually includes dinner and breakfast so those are added benefits. However, if the escort doesn't enjoy that extended period of intimacy with a client, and some don't, the hourly to overnight ratio is meaningless. Some escorts prefer one hour slam/bang one hour in and out appointments they don't want to be bothered with the extended togetherness of overnights. Thus they set a very high fee for overnights with the expectation that they won't be doing many.

 

I think think this is pretty right on. If you're doing this with a regular that you have chemistry with and enjoy each other's company, they will often give you a better deal. I just did an overnight for my birthday with this couple that escorts (both separately and together) and they only charged me $1000, plus actually brought like snacks, drinks and a birthday present.I did buy dinner but it was definitely a good deal and we all had some amazing fun too.

[dcman]

Back in December before Covid took hold here I had "sessions" with 2 different Top Shelf escorts. Both agreed to 300 for an hour or 450 for two hours. The two hour sessions are so much more relaxing. No feeling of rushing and both of these guys also agreed to turn their phones off during the session. My new go to guy are going to be guys with this kind of rate.

[MidwestCoastal]

1000 a day and 2000 for a Friday to Sunday

 

Higher rates on a weekend!? Why?

[MidwestCoastal]

Any thoughts on a 'all-day' rate w/ no overnight? Arrive around lunch, leave after dinner? Guess just use multi-hour logic....

 

I live in Philly and like to have guys down from NYC.... I tend to have one regular down for a weekend, but looking to branch out a bit.

[Strafe13]

Back in December before Covid took hold here I had "sessions" with 2 different Top Shelf escorts. Both agreed to 300 for an hour or 450 for two hours. The two hour sessions are so much more relaxing. No feeling of rushing and both of these guys also agreed to turn their phones off during the session. My new go to guy are going to be guys with this kind of rate.

 

I'd really prefer to hire escorts with multi-hour rates too, as I like having longer sessions that are much more intimate and "courtesan like." Since rentmen has removed the rates for U.S.-based viewers of the site, it's really hard to search for guys who offer multi-hour rates. Every now and then, I'll see a provider who lists a rate structure in the body of his ad, but those are rare and don't seem to last long, so I suspect that the site admins remove that info if/when they come across it.

 

When I've tried asking providers in whom I'm interested about multi-hour rates, they usually don't understand why I don't just do simple multiplication for their hourly rate, and I get the sense that they're annoyed and think I'm wasting their time. Have you guys found an easier way to broach that topic without coming across to the escort as a haggler who's trying to get over on him? Or is it just the luck of the draw on finding those seemingly rare escorts who like and incentivize longer sessions?

[ericwinters]

I'd really prefer to hire escorts with multi-hour rates too, as I like having longer sessions that are much more intimate and "courtesan like." Since rentmen has removed the rates for U.S.-based viewers of the site, it's really hard to search for guys who offer multi-hour rates. Every now and then, I'll see a provider who lists a rate structure in the body of his ad, but those are rare and don't seem to last long, so I suspect that the site admins remove that info if/when they come across it.

 

When I've tried asking providers in whom I'm interested about multi-hour rates, they usually don't understand why I don't just do simple multiplication for their hourly rate, and I get the sense that they're annoyed and think I'm wasting their time. Have you guys found an easier way to broach that topic without coming across to the escort as a haggler who's trying to get over on him? Or is it just the luck of the draw on finding those seemingly rare escorts who like and incentivize longer sessions?

 

It's been my experience that many appear annoyed about better rates for an extended time frame. To me that is a signal to move on.

 

I've not found a good way to assess or address this. Hope we find some ideas.

[Strafe13]

It's been my experience that many appear annoyed about better rates for an extended time frame. To me that is a signal to move on.

 

I've not found a good way to assess or address this. Hope we find some ideas.

 

Guess it really just depends on the individual escort and the kind of service he likes to provide. It's definitely frustrating, since we often hear from escorts here that communication is key, and clients should be direct and say/ask for what they want. But then if we do, that can set off an escort's time-waster alarm. Of course, what one escort may view as a sign of a flake, others take as indicative of a serious client's interest. There's another thread currently going on where this paradox is being discussed. It'll have to be trial and error, then.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

[big-n-tall]

Higher rates on a weekend!? Why?

 

I think you misread that. @builder boy is saying it’s 1k for an overnight no matter what day. So if he did 2 days... starting Friday and ending Sunday, it would be 2k. There is no price increase.

 

Any thoughts on a 'all-day' rate w/ no overnight? Arrive around lunch, leave after dinner? Guess just use multi-hour logic....

 

I live in Philly and like to have guys down from NYC.... I tend to have one regular down for a weekend, but looking to branch out a bit.

 

The cost shouldn’t change should you do an all day vs overnight visit as long as the hours are the same. The issue is whether the provider would be up for either.

[MscleLovr]

Any thoughts on a 'all-day' rate w/ no overnight? Arrive around lunch, leave after dinner?

prefer to hire escorts with multi-hour rates too, as I like having longer sessions that are much more intimate and "courtesan like."

 

Once you’ve found a guy who interests you greatly, my thought is that you open a conversation along these lines…

You look very attractive to me

I don’t like rushed sessions as I like to get to know a guy

Which works better for you - overnight dates? Or a long date in the daytime?

 

Spell out what you want to do. Eg let’s have lunch together, then come back to my place to play; then go for a walk, play sport, watch a movie; then play together again and you leave at 6/7pm. You get to sleep in your own bed.

 

Only then ask about rate. If it seems high to you, ask if there’s a day when he’s not usually busy. Mention the advantage to him of sleeping in his own bed.

 

If he makes no offer of a reduced hourly rate for a multi-hour booking, move on to the next attractive guy.

[marylander1940]

I don’t disagree with you @Epigonos. But I’ve also found a variation in expectations.

 

I had several dates with a 21year old blond muscleboy before I suggested an overnight. He shocked me with his rate and I knew him well enough to ask why. He explained that he’d only done 1 overnight before, and that was with a fit guy in his late 20s, and he charged $2000 because the guy topped him 5-6x during the night and also wanted morning sex! I envisaged that I would top him before dinner, then we’d sleep until he gave me a morning blowjob - he immediately said Great and lowered his rate to $700. He actually gave me a midnight blowjob too, so I gave him $800…and we had many dates afterwards.

 

He's a keeper, search no more.

 

Does he also cum every single time as you require?

[MscleLovr]

Always, and often hands-free @marylander1940

[marylander1940]

Always, and often hands-free @marylander1940

 

He's a keeper, search no more...

[Epigonos]

In nearly twenty years of hiring escorts I have made it a point of never hiring an escort for a single hour. I hire for two hours of play time and one hour for lunch or dinner. Only after a couple of successful arrangement like the above would I ever consider approaching an escort regarding the possibility of setting up and extended get together (a weekend or longer). At that point we know each other and he would be perfectly aware that I’m not a time waster. I’ve also learned that the escort’s fee will frequently depend partially on how much he wants to visit my proposed destination. He is far more likely to discount a week in Rome or Paris than a week in Death Valley.

[MscleLovr]

the escort’s fee will frequently depend partially on how much he wants to visit my proposed destination. He is far more likely to discount a week in Rome or Paris

 

So true @Epigonos Exactly my experience too.

[Luv2play]

In nearly twenty years of hiring escorts I have made it a point of never hiring an escort for a single hour. I hire for two hours of play time and one hour for lunch or dinner. Only after a couple of successful arrangement like the above would I ever consider approaching an escort regarding the possibility of setting up and extended get together (a weekend or longer). At that point we know each other and he would be perfectly aware that I’m not a time waster. I’ve also learned that the escort’s fee will frequently depend partially on how much he wants to visit my proposed destination. He is far more likely to discount a week in Rome or Paris than a week in Death Valley.

I’ve been hiring for over 40 years but in the first 20 only sporadically when I saw someone I wanted and he happened to be an escort. No Internet in those days. In the last 20 years have had lots of experiences with escorts and only recently hired for overnights. Since the pandemic, that’s all I do now. I do my research and here in Canada, where infection rates are relatively low after the initial outbreak, which affected mostly the elderly in long term care, and now the migrant workers working in farms for the summer, I feel relatively comfortable meeting with guys who are local, since travelling escorts are not visiting Canada because of the border closure. The Canadian escorts are not lowering their rates, and why should they? People like me are still hiring because it helps with keeping our mental balance. Need that human contact.

[Luv2play]

I was supposed to have an o/n tonight but it fell through at 3pm, 2 hours before he was supposed to show up. There were problems with the train he was to take but in the end it meant we would lose 3 hours of playtime in the evening which he offered to make up with one extra hour in the morning. I declined as sex after breakfast does not really do it for me. He didn’t offer a fee reduction but I paid him a $200 cancellation fee. Such goes life.

[Wolfer]

I was supposed to have an o/n tonight but it fell through at 3pm, 2 hours before he was supposed to show up. There were problems with the train he was to take but in the end it meant we would lose 3 hours of playtime in the evening which he offered to make up with one extra hour in the morning. I declined as sex after breakfast does not really do it for me. He didn’t offer a fee reduction but I paid him a $200 cancellation fee. Such goes life.

Something doesn't add up for me here... The problem was on his end (out of his hands, but still). For a 3-hour loss he proposed only a 1-hour compensation? That doesn't seem right to me... And you ended up paying him a cancellation fee?

 

I feel like he should have offered to just shift the whole thing 3 hours. So that it would start 3 hours later but the total amount of time would remain the same (especially since he didn't offer a rate reduction). And go to bed later so there could still be enough playtime at night. Hahaha, oh well, just my opinion.

[+ FrankR]

And you ended up paying him a cancellation fee?

 

Generosity is its own reward.

[Luv2play]

He had already bought the new tickets, which had no refund feature, before advising me of the change. The original train was cancelled. I know this to be the case as it didn’t show up in town later. I have been with the escort before and he is a nice guy. He would have been out of pocket for the tickets he ended up not using which cost him $200. So I covered the cost. We both ended up losing.