Does your RM ad run steadily, or do you allow it to lapse once in awhile?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I ask because somehow, all my ads have come to be due around the same week every month (Varies between $100 and $150/month depending on what sites and tier levels). Which in this case, was last week. I used to try and space them out, let one be due 1 week, and another on the next week or 2 weeks apart. But that would either mean paying it again before it runs out, or waiting for a week or 2 to renew.

 

Even though I wanted the continued visibility, I don’t like how I spend $150 on ads last week, and only had 1 client the whole week (a regular, and it was prior to my ads expiring). So I basically spent half of what I made last week, and put it towards ads...and having nothing to immediately show for it. All just RentMen messengers, which are auto-responded anyway...and requests for appointments in the city I’m not in yet. Which is really when I was considering waiting before renewing, since my current market isn’t paying me much of shit anyway.

 

Some weeks I struggle with deciding whether it’s worth to the renew the ads right away, or let them lapse for a few days. Especially when approaching holidays or upcoming bills. On the one hand, I can hold onto my money, but on the other hand I know I could be missing client requests/pre-bookings. But instead of making the money right away, I usually end up having my time wasted the first week I renew my ad. And that’s money I could have used to pay a bill or put food on the table. And tinewasters wonder why I am so unforgiving to their bullshit. I’m paying with the intent of making that money back within a day or 2, and instead I end up waiting even longer to get it back.

 

That’s why I just really wish and hope things get to a point where clients PAY for our ads. By the way of getting our number or seeing private pics, which I’ve suggested before to RM enterprise, but they have not yet implemented my advice. Similar to how Justforfans and onlyfans works. Clients pay to see us, and the site takes their cut out of the money we earn. Not the other way around. That’s partially why so many are turning to such sites. The escort/massage sites make us pay upfront; but yet some clients want to get huffy and back out, when we ask for money upfront.

 

Some of these guys contacting us can’t seem to understand that we actually have to pay for the ads, they are contacting us on. So I 100% have a right to ask for a deposit, and ask for a cancellation fee when I feel it’s warranted. It’s not FREE. There’s a FEE. And if I’m spending money so that clients can find and contact me, last thing I want is to be toyed with. Not after I spent my earnings, out of pocket.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[coriolis888]

 

The escort/massage sites make us pay upfront, but yet some clients want to get huffy and back out when we ask for money upfront.

 

 

Do you really ask your clients (who respond to your ad) to pay money upfront?

 

If you read this forum often, you will see that the pay-in-advance policy is a "no-no" and that most clients rebel at such requirements. Most clients cancel.

[marylander1940]

I ask because somehow, all my ads have come to be due around the same week every month (Varies between $100 and $150/month depending on what sites and tier levels). Which in this case, was last week. I used to try and space them out, let one be due 1 week, and another on the next week or 2 weeks apart. But that would either mean paying it again before it runs out, or waiting for a week or 2 to renew.

 

Even though I wanted the continued visibility, I don’t like how I spend $150 on ads last week, and only had 1 client the whole week (a regular, and it was prior to my ads expiring). So I basically spent half of what I made last week, and put it towards ads...and having nothing to immediately show for it. All just RentMen messengers, which are auto-responded anyway...and requests for appointments in the city I’m not in yet. Which is really when I was considering waiting before renewing, since my current market isn’t paying me much of shit anyway.

 

Some weeks I struggle with deciding whether it’s worth to the renew the ads right away, or let them lapse for a few days. Especially when approaching holidays or upcoming bills. On the one hand, I can hold onto my money, but on the other hand I know I could be missing client requests/pre-bookings. But instead of making the money right away, I usually end up having my time wasted the first week I renew my ad. And that’s money I could have used to pay a bill or put food on the table. And tinewasters wonder why I am so unforgiving to their bullshit. I’m paying with the intent of making that money back within a day or 2, and instead I end up waiting even longer to get it back.

 

That’s why I just really wish and hope things get to a point where clients PAY for our ads. By the way of getting our number or seeing private pics, which I’ve suggested before to RM enterprise, but they have not yet implemented my advice. Similar to how Justforfans and onlyfans works. Clients pay to see us, and the site takes their cut out of the money we earn. Not the other way around. That’s partially why so many are turning to such sites. The escort/massage sites make us pay upfront; but yet some clients want to get huffy and back out, when we ask for money upfront.

 

Some of these guys contacting us can’t seem to understand that we actually have to pay for the ads, they are contacting us on. So I 100% have a right to ask for a deposit, and ask for a cancellation fee when I feel it’s warranted. It’s not FREE. There’s a FEE. And if I’m spending money so that clients can find and contact me, last thing I want is to be toyed with. Not after I spent my earnings, out of pocket.

 

An ad it's an investment. A regular saw you but I'm sure others did and they might call you later once they feel it's safe to get together with you within 6 feet. It's always worth having your ad on for advertisement, RM is 80 per month.

Bills and holidays happen to all of us clients and escorts, is up to us saving money and live within our means.

 

 

Have you thought about having an onlyfans page? It's a way for folks to pay to watch your pictures and videos while promoting yourself.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

An ad it's an investment. A regular saw you but I'm sure others did and they might call you later once they feel it's safe to get together with you within 6 feet. It's always worth having your ad on for advertisement, RM is 80 per month.

Bills and holidays happen to all of us clients and escorts, is up to us saving money and live within our means.

 

 

Have you thought about having an onlyfans page? It's a way for folks to pay to watch your pictures and videos while promoting yourself.

 

Lol yes, that’s what I was referring to. I have my fans page link in my signature (not sure why it doesn’t show on mobile version) I didn’t mention that as part of what I earned this week. Was more referring to the actual clients I received.

 

Also it’s not simply that the contacts aren’t happening. The contacts have happened, but I had 2 clients contact yesterday and nothing came from it, and again today someone contacted me on messenger discussing scheduling a meet...never texted as instructed, no confirmation...yet I took the time out to respond to the messages. Exactly why I keep my messenger on auto reply and don’t even respond most of the time.

 

With that said, I still had funds set aside for my ads...but the past couple weeks has had its challenges because I haven’t been on tour, which I’m long overdue for because the Kansas City market is horrendous for trying to get ahead in. So even the best money setting aside and saving, isn’t going to cut it if the expected return on investment Isn't coming in. Exactly why I am moving this week...which of course is adding to my expenses.

 

Do you really ask your clients (who respond to your ad) to pay money upfront?

 

If you read this forum often, you will see that the pay-in-advance policy is a "no-no" and that most clients rebel at such requirements. Most clients cancel.

 

I don’t ask them to “pay upfront”. But I do give the suggestion to confirm via a small deposit (usually 25-50 locally). I have a friend who is a wedding planner, and he gets 50% for every event. Because it’s money spent on preparedness.

 

Especially like the case yesterday, the person is saying to meet him at a hotel clear out downtown, but wouldn’t give a timeframe to meet. Being it’s a high demand weekend, I didn’t have time to be sitting around waiting to know if or when he would get back to me. So I simply asked to go ahead and send me a deposit, so I know that this is an appointment being made.

 

But I understand also, the deposit is there to ensure I don’t forgo other clients or things in my life, waiting around for someone to confirm based on nothing more than a name of a hotel and a fake name (which someone gave me yesterday).

Edited June 21, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

And here’s another example of the stupidity I’m over:

 

Me at 3:49 pm: Hi, just following up as I’ve not heard back yet on details for location or timing, and you previously said 3 or 4 or later. If I don’t receive a text by 5 pm today to confirm, I will assume other plans for the day.

 

Him at 6:20 pm: “Yes sorry... when I was chatting with you earlier this morning I failed to realize it was Father’s Day. I am at my families tonight for a barbecue. My apologies”

-Chaddy on RentMen

 

This is after sending me all these messages about being a piggy bottom, saying he has a friend who wants to join for a 3 way, and other explicit questions.

 

And this is what I spent my money on to advertise for this week? To deal with this bullshit? I wrote to RentMen and included a link to this post as well. I told them before to implement something better for us. They need to be making clients pay for our videos, pay for our private pics unlocked, and pay for messaging us on messenger, because WE are paying to BE ON THERE. And I don’t get paid when people waste my time chatting, many who are doing so explicitly. I’m tired of paying my money and having my time wasted. Even if I do recoup the ad fee a few times over before the next billing date, I still shouldn’t have to be dealing with this nonsense, after I’ve paid my money to be on the platform. They can do better, and I want to see better.

Edited June 21, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[orville]

Hi @Jarrod_Uncut I can only imagine the frustration you experience with time wasters. I hate them too because I'm sure they make most escorts grumpy by the time one ask legitimate questions and they just want to get down to business, no chit chat. Which is fair I must admit but being each hiring an investment itself, we clients also want to make sure we are a good match with the provider.

 

Nobody will deny that time wasters exist among us clients and your work would be easier and more satisfying without them but in all fairness we must all recognize that there are time wasters in all lines of business, it's just part of any job I think. Window-shopping exists because not all of us purchase something in every store we visit, and even when we have already picked up a product from the shelf in the supermarket, sometimes we change our minds and put it back or exchange it for another product. I'm not trying to objectify you or diminish the value of your work, just providing some perspective about human behaviour.

 

I believe it's healthy for oneself to take every setback with a grain of salt so we don't let our emotions control us, but we are the ones in control. Think of how letting time wasters affect your mood has an impact on your interaction with the next potential client you talk to. As for Rentmen making clients pay for videos pics and chats, it would certainly cause many clients to drop their memberships and that is something no company would risk especially in these corona times when everyone is trying to bring business back to normal. I would believe that Rentmen has already though of this in the past and they have realized in the pricing policies that clients who are already paying in average 200 to 300 per hiring, wouldn't be happy to pay more for their memberships. That is probably a niche already taken by OnlyFans (I believe you are already there, try to capitalize on that).

 

I think I read you were irritated for the money you invested in ads last week, with little results. I wouldn't be so shocked considering that the economy is experiencing a heavy depression along with unemployment levels not seen in decades. The economy is starting to reactivate but it will take some time. In times of crisis business people tend to become more creative. Don't rely solely on the traditional platforms like Rentmen to promote yourself. I would recommend becoming more active on Social Media. Refresh your ads with new pictures. Provide some sense of novelty to catch new eyes. I've read here that successful escorts use Twitter. See what others escorts are doing and try to imitate and see if over time you see some success, but more important learn to be patient and mindful that if you start to aggressively demand fees and upfront deposits (despite being fair due to the % of time wasters) you are basically scaring potential new clients away.

 

I hope things get better for you sexy.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Hi @Jarrod_Uncut I can only imagine the frustration you experience with time wasters. I hate them too because I'm sure they make most escorts grumpy by the time one ask legitimate questions and they just want to get down to business, no chit chat. Which is fair I must admit but being each hiring an investment itself, we clients also want to make sure we are a good match with the provider.

 

Nobody will deny that time wasters exist among us clients and your work would be easier and more satisfying without them but in all fairness we must all recognize that there are time wasters in all lines of business, it's just part of any job I think. Window-shopping exists because not all of us purchase something in every store we visit, and even when we have already picked up a product from the shelf in the supermarket, sometimes we change our minds and put it back or exchange it for another product. I'm not trying to objectify you or diminish the value of your work, just providing some perspective about human behaviour.

 

I believe it's healthy for oneself to take every setback with a grain of salt so we don't let our emotions control us, but we are the ones in control. Think of how letting time wasters affect your mood has an impact on your interaction with the next potential client you talk to. As for Rentmen making clients pay for videos pics and chats, it would certainly cause many clients to drop their memberships and that is something no company would risk especially in these corona times when everyone is trying to bring business back to normal. I would believe that Rentmen has already though of this in the past and they have realized in the pricing policies that clients who are already paying in average 200 to 300 per hiring, wouldn't be happy to pay more for their memberships. That is probably a niche already taken by OnlyFans (I believe you are already there, try to capitalize on that).

 

I think I read you were irritated for the money you invested in ads last week, with little results. I wouldn't be so shocked considering that the economy is experiencing a heavy depression along with unemployment levels not seen in decades. The economy is starting to reactivate but it will take some time. In times of crisis business people tend to become more creative. Don't rely solely on the traditional platforms like Rentmen to promote yourself. I would recommend becoming more active on Social Media. Refresh your ads with new pictures. Provide some sense of novelty to catch new eyes. I've read here that successful escorts use Twitter. See what others escorts are doing and try to imitate and see if over time you see some success, but more important learn to be patient and mindful that if you start to aggressively demand fees and upfront deposits (despite being fair due to the % of time wasters) you are basically scaring potential new clients away.

 

I hope things get better for you sexy.

 

Thanks...I take what you’re saying to consideration 100 percent. I'm on Twitter already and have the video platforms. However it's really a lot of living and breathing the industry and porn, sometimes it's more attention than I can really give throughout the day. I do somewhat “forget” how things are “out there”. Yes there’s a pandemic, and unemployment, and racial tensions. But whenever I’m available during holidays, I’m usually available only with coordinating planning. I can sense when people try to use the RM or any m4m hookup site to pass boredom, contacting on a day where generally I’m not in the mindframe to deal with nonsense.

 

I may not have any big plans, but that doesn’t mean I want to be messed about into seeing if I’m available. It’s almost as if they are only curious to know if we actually are, with no real intent to make anything happen.

 

I currently have a 3 step template for clients to follow, with the 3rd being to leave a deposit. I try to be lenient and talk to them and get more details, but clearly it’s not getting thru. So it seems the best way to acknowledge that my time is of value, whether that be texting me at 9:30 am when I’m still half sleep (which one of the flakes over the weekend did), or messaging me on messenger while I’m at the gym, is with some form of a pre-contribution.

 

Ultimately, I ended up just turning my phone off for the rest of the night yesterday. And at this point I hardly want to engage with anyone else, without a deposit. On the next 4th of July holiday, I'll be sure to keep my phone off the whole weekend. Because I remember pretty clear last year, the nonsensers were out in full force. It really makes them look sad and bad, that their form of entertainment on a national holiday, has to involve making fake appointments with sex workers from the Internet.

[Daverwr]

I’m also in the client group and am speaking just for myself. I’ve made plans to have a date with a provider in a few weeks due to his travel schedule. Even though I have his profile virtually memorized, I still like to look at it. If it weren’t there for a week or two, I’d panic. I am sure I would call/text him immediately, unnecessarily.

 

Also, clients of rm can see who has viewed their profile. Can you not do the same? Perhaps, you can use this feature to check your advertising and marketing is performing. Some providers have contacted me directly after I happened to view their profile., which they obviously saw. We’ve started conversations and we’ve actually made connections. So, with a little ingenuity, they made a sale.

Edited June 22, 2020 by Daverwr

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I’m also in the client group and am speaking just for myself. I’ve made plans to have a date with a provider in a few weeks due to his travel schedule. Even though I have his profile virtually memorized, I still like to look at it. If it weren’t there for a week or two, I’d panic. I am sure I would call/text him immediately, unnecessarily.

 

Also, clients of rm can see who has viewed their profile. Can you not do the same? Perhaps, you can use this feature to check your advertising and marketing is performing. Some providers have contacted me directly after I happened to view their profile., which they obviously saw. We’ve started conversations and we’ve actually made connections. So, with a little ingenuity, they made a sale.

 

You make a good point. I periodically do this also, usually via the email system on either RM site. I have had some visits come out of them as well. However, there has been some other takes, where other members have said if they look at someone’s private pics, it may just mean they are just looking...not to be given an “offer”. But I know for most part, I like the opportunity to reach out to clients who view my profile.

 

Someone who flaked in their appointment the other day, attempted to liken contacting me to shopping in a store. Where people can “shop around” before making a “purchase”. I say no, it’s not the same. Shopping around at a store would be like browsing the ads, viewing our pics and reading the ad. I’m fine with that. And for the most part, most videos on RentMen I post are short clips, so I really don’t look for money out of those.

 

But when it gets down to contacting me at early or late hours of the morning/night, and providing hotel details, talking dirty and explicit...and then they bail: then it gets personal. I liken it to contacting a personal trainer at a gym, out the blue...and asking if they can meet TODAY for a training session. And said personal trainer discusses when they are available, and other said person just bails or gives some weak excuse about forgetting it’s Father’s Day. That’s not shopping around. That’s being a hack. Yet some of these guys honestly actually believe, that contacting a sex worker on a private number and talking nasty, is like shopping in a store. Pathetic.

 

But I really shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve already had 2-3 other guys in my personal life talk of meeting, one even suggested 2 days, and neither one followed thru. No explanation, no offer to reschedule...and they don’t see anything wrong with it. My mood might just be cloudy until I finish relocating, and not have to deal with so many inconsiderate jag-offs that exist in the Kansas City gay community.

[Daverwr]

Hey, your feeling are all valid since they are yours. For the shopping around aspect, remember, when I’m considering buying a $250+ Shirt, I get to try it on and walk around to get how it feels on me. I’m not suggesting that I should be able to “try on” someone for hire. But, if I’m considering buying something, I should get more than just those that can view it through the window. And, one of the issues with being a merchant, you never know if the person that tried It on will purchase or simply say “thank you”. Even Neiman-Marcus is having problems reconciling that one!

Edited June 22, 2020 by Daverwr

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Even Newman-Marcus is having problems reconciling that one!

 

Newman?

 

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[Daverwr]

Newman?

 

Damn Spellcheck

 

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[+ DERRIK]

Guys

 

I think some providers get their hands full with clients or potential clients - thus do not want to invest $ to get more. Maybe they're in school or have day jobs.

 

over time - if they end up with - more capacity - time on their hands - they spend $ to get more leads.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Guys

 

I think some providers get their hands full with clients or potential clients - thus do not want to invest $ to get more. Maybe they're in school or have day jobs.

 

over time - if they end up with - more capacity - time on their hands - they spend $ to get more leads.

 

That's a good point. There's also the others who perhaps don't advertise and prefer more of a networking approach to marketing. Unfortunately I don't live in a large enough market to go that route. And since majority of my clients are generally new or the occasional regular, I tend to like keeping my visibility going.

 

Hey, your feeling are all valid since they are yours. For the shopping around aspect, remember, when I’m considering buying a $250+ Shirt, I get to try it on and walk around to get how it feels on me. I’m not suggesting that I should be able to “try on” someone for hire. But, if I’m considering buying something, I should get more than just those that can view it through the window. And, one of the issues with being a merchant, you never know if the person that tried It on will purchase or simply say “thank you”. Even Neiman-Marcus is having problems reconciling that one!

 

Here's my thing: I wouldn't be as phased, except the fact that Rentmen ads have gone from 39 gold to 79 for gold. Yeah, it's a measly $40, but factor in platinum boosts (which I've stopped doing since the turn of the pandemic), it's really more expense. So to be paying more now than what I was 2 or 3 years ago, I definitely expect better. I've also told them, let us post reviews internally on the site, so other providers can post and make a decision as to whether they see a particular user who may have "done the rounds", in standing up other providers. Because I 100% highly doubt, they're only doing it to 1 or just me.

 

Also: the DIFFERENCE with the t-shirt thing is: those employees are getting paid to be there, regardless if the window shopper buys or not. That's also why I don't do concession stands, telemarketing, or phone sales jobs. I signed up for this because for the most part, you don't necessarily have to be a good sales person and make commission, so to speak. We sell by default with our pics, ad wording, and services. That's already ALOT of work to begin with. Don't make me do MORE work for FREE, and then not pay me. That's shiesty.

 

I try to get people to look at us not like a storefront. Even though you can happily walk into a grocery store and walk out buying nothing, at the end of the day their operations are still going and customers are coming and going in larger volumes. They also have multiple staff on hand to do other duties.

 

We, on the other hand: are usually 1 man, doing many small, but complex tasks. The sex is usually the fun part. When someone contacts for an appointment, they should do so having already invested in making a connection, after confirming the basic essentials.

 

Now, if after agreeing to the basic essentials they wafer and waffle about, bail/no show/stop responding...they have left window shopping status, and stepped into timewaster category.

[Daverwr]

Now, if after agreeing to the basic essentials they wafer and waffle about, bail/no show/stop responding...they have left window shopping status, and stepped into timewaster category.

True, but that also holds true to providers, as well. I can name three that did that to me in the last couple of weeks. While I was trying to “making a connection” and “confirming the basic essentials”, they ghost me and stop communicating. So, your frustration goes both ways, my dear.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

True, but that also holds true to providers, as well. I can name three that did that to me in the last couple of weeks. While I was trying to “making a connection” and “confirming the basic essentials”, they ghost me and stop communicating. So, your frustration goes both ways, my dear.

 

And I 100% acknowledge that. I understand it. That's why I also don't have any in person escort friends either. Palm Springs weekend is like the 1 time per every 2 years, that I get to connect with other providers, that doesn't involved a 3, 4 or 5 way with a client lol. I've dealt with 4 escorts in Kansas City already, and all 4 have been frauds (not frauds in the sense of the word, but fraud in the urban dictionary term) lol. And that's probably why these clients are frauds, because the providers are frauds. It didn't use to be this way when I first visited Kansas City in 2010.

 

But at the end of the day, that's them choosing to lose money. When clients bail on us, that's cheating us out of an expected earning

Edited June 22, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[coriolis888]

 

 

I don’t ask them to “pay up front”. But I do give the suggestion to confirm via a small deposit (usually 25-50 locally). I have a friend who is a wedding planner, and he gets 50% for every event. Because it’s money spent on preparedness.

 

 

Considering that most clients want to retain confidentiality, how does a client get this "small deposit" to you if they have not previously met with you and do not know you?

 

Do you realize how much work and trust it takes to get an advance deposit to you? The client must give up his anonymity.

 

I know that I would not send an escort I do not know, an advance "small deposit" or send money via a credit card.

 

Doing such a thing would imply super trust on the part of a client.

 

As to the wedding planner getting 50% in advance for every event, a wedding planner usually works with numerous people and spends days planning a wedding and often pays out money for space rental and employees. Comparing wedding planning to escorting is a stretch too far.

Edited July 4, 2020 by coriolis888

[Rudynate]

I ask because somehow, all my ads have come to be due around the same week every month (Varies between $100 and $150/month depending on what sites and tier levels). Which in this case, was last week. I used to try and space them out, let one be due 1 week, and another on the next week or 2 weeks apart. But that would either mean paying it again before it runs out, or waiting for a week or 2 to renew.

 

Even though I wanted the continued visibility, I don’t like how I spend $150 on ads last week, and only had 1 client the whole week (a regular, and it was prior to my ads expiring). So I basically spent half of what I made last week, and put it towards ads...and having nothing to immediately show for it. All just RentMen messengers, which are auto-responded anyway...and requests for appointments in the city I’m not in yet. Which is really when I was considering waiting before renewing, since my current market isn’t paying me much of shit anyway.

 

Some weeks I struggle with deciding whether it’s worth to the renew the ads right away, or let them lapse for a few days. Especially when approaching holidays or upcoming bills. On the one hand, I can hold onto my money, but on the other hand I know I could be missing client requests/pre-bookings. But instead of making the money right away, I usually end up having my time wasted the first week I renew my ad. And that’s money I could have used to pay a bill or put food on the table. And tinewasters wonder why I am so unforgiving to their bullshit. I’m paying with the intent of making that money back within a day or 2, and instead I end up waiting even longer to get it back.

 

That’s why I just really wish and hope things get to a point where clients PAY for our ads. By the way of getting our number or seeing private pics, which I’ve suggested before to RM enterprise, but they have not yet implemented my advice. Similar to how Justforfans and onlyfans works. Clients pay to see us, and the site takes their cut out of the money we earn. Not the other way around. That’s partially why so many are turning to such sites. The escort/massage sites make us pay upfront; but yet some clients want to get huffy and back out, when we ask for money upfront.

 

Some of these guys contacting us can’t seem to understand that we actually have to pay for the ads, they are contacting us on. So I 100% have a right to ask for a deposit, and ask for a cancellation fee when I feel it’s warranted. It’s not FREE. There’s a FEE. And if I’m spending money so that clients can find and contact me, last thing I want is to be toyed with. Not after I spent my earnings, out of pocket.

 

Is the fee the same every month or do you pay for traffic?

[Rod Hagen]

When RentBoy and MassageM4M doubled down on really sticking it to the escorts, charging as much as monthly $300 and $200 respectively, I would often run a search to see how many of my new clients recntly arrived from either site, and if it was a low number, I'd let my membership lapse for a few months.

 

Rentmasseur and RentMen are much more respectful in their billing than RentBoy and MassageM4M ever imagined being, so even now When I'm not seeing clients, it makes sense to support them and support myself by continuing to list. Seriously, fuck you RentBoy and Massagem4m.

[dbar123]

I should feel bad for the original poster....but I don't. It's all part of running a business. I've noticed that even when Rentman ads expire, you can still contact the person....it just says that the ad has expired.

 

By the way, it cuts both ways. I've had experiences with Rentmen where they cancel at the last minute...and a few never showed up. One guy insisted on 50% up front and then he canceled on me......I did wind up seeing him 5 days later but he was about 4 hours late. He did, however, stay for 5 hours (I paid for 3) so he did make it up.

 

I even had an experience last week where the Rentman texted me several hours before our appointment that his hotel would not allow guests to come up to the rooms and that he didn't see how I would be able to see him. Wasn't sure if this was real....or if he got a better deal and decided to double book me. Whatever......

[coriolis888]

 

snip

 

I even had an experience last week where the Rentman texted me several hours before our appointment that his hotel would not allow guests to come up to the rooms and that he didn't see how I would be able to see him.

 

Wasn't sure if this was real....or if he got a better deal and decided to double book me. Whatever......

 

 

Meeting guys from rentmen (and most other sites) is a "luck of the draw" with no guarantees of success.

[marylander1940]

I should feel bad for the original poster....but I don't. It's all part of running a business. I've noticed that even when Rentman ads expire, you can still contact the person....it just says that the ad has expired.

 

I think they send him an email saying you have X number of new messages and if you renew your ad you'll get to read them. Men4rentnow.com used to do the same.

 

 

By the way, it cuts both ways. I've had experiences with Rentmen where they cancel at the last minute...and a few never showed up. One guy insisted on 50% up front and then he canceled on me......I did wind up seeing him 5 days later but he was about 4 hours late. He did, however, stay for 5 hours (I paid for 3) so he did make it up.

 

Yes, no show and cancellations unfortunately happen on both sides, escorts complain about guys being flaky. Fortunately escorts who cancel or don't show up don't last and get out of the business.

 

any X amount of money upfront unless is for a trip it's a sure scam.

 

I even had an experience last week where the Rentman texted me several hours before our appointment that his hotel would not allow guests to come up to the rooms and that he didn't see how I would be able to see him. Wasn't sure if this was real....or if he got a better deal and decided to double book me. Whatever......

 

Some hotels are coming up with new rules like that because of Covid-19. From one day to another they impose new rules.

 

Did you offer to host him at your place?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Considering that most clients want to retain confidentiality, how does a client get this "small deposit" to you if they have not previously met with you and do not know you?

 

Do you realize how much work and trust it takes to get an advance deposit to you? The client must give up his anonymity.

 

I know that I would not send an escort I do not know, an advance "small deposit" or send money via a credit card.

 

Doing such a thing would imply super trust on the part of a client.

 

As to the wedding planner getting 50% in advance for every event, a wedding planner usually works with numerous people and spends days planning a wedding and often pays out money for space rental and employees. Comparing wedding planning to escorting is a stretch too far.

 

Paypal ??‍?‍??(can send cash via barcode anonymous at cvs, Walgreens, etc.)

 

cash app ?

 

venmo ?

 

passenger pigeon ?

 

moneygram ?

 

western union ?

 

I don’t care how. Fact is, I won’t be dealing with anymore appointments in 2020 and beyond without a deposit. PERIOD. I’m already putting this as part of my ad rules. No more exceptions. Too much time wasted on idiots to not do it at this point.

 

Just like stores are successfully getting people to wear masks, and pay with credit or debit, I should be able to successfully get them to pay a deposit. If not, DENIED SERVICE.

 

 

 

an escort usually works with numerous people and spends days planning an appointment and often pays out money for space rental and travel. Comparing wedding planning to escorting makes sense

 

Fixed it for you ?

Edited July 28, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Pulgasari1991]

Considering that most clients want to retain confidentiality, how does a client get this "small deposit" to you if they have not previously met with you and do not know you?

Monero for anonimity.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

When RentBoy and MassageM4M doubled down on really sticking it to the escorts, charging as much as monthly $300 and $200 respectively, I would often run a search to see how many of my new clients recntly arrived from either site, and if it was a low number, I'd let my membership lapse for a few months.

 

Rentmasseur and RentMen are much more respectful in their billing than RentBoy and MassageM4M ever imagined being, so even now When I'm not seeing clients, it makes sense to support them and support myself by continuing to list. Seriously, fuck you RentBoy and Massagem4m.

 

Yeah It got out of hand with some sites. No site should be charging that much regardless. They shouldn’t be able to become rich off of our earnings, especially considering rates vary across the board. They also had too many tiers: basic, gold and platinum

 

But on second thought Platinum isn’t too bad and I think RentMen could stand to offer a platinum listing for $100 a month, versus $12-24 per 12-24 hours.

 

 

I should feel bad for the original poster....but I don't. It's all part of running a business. I've noticed that even when Rentman ads expire, you can still contact the person....it just says that the ad has expired.

 

By the way, it cuts both ways. I've had experiences with Rentmen where they cancel at the last minute...and a few never showed up. One guy insisted on 50% up front and then he canceled on me......I did wind up seeing him 5 days later but he was about 4 hours late. He did, however, stay for 5 hours (I paid for 3) so he did make it up.

 

I even had an experience last week where the Rentman texted me several hours before our appointment that his hotel would not allow guests to come up to the rooms and that he didn't see how I would be able to see him. Wasn't sure if this was real....or if he got a better deal and decided to double book me. Whatever......

 

I wasn’t asking for pity though. Don’t feel bad for me, I renewed my ads again this month, and didn’t flinch a bit. However, I will continue to make sure any further inquiries I do get, will pay deposit. I’m not going to be paying these sites, only to have idiots waste my fucking time.

 

And I don’t care abour your experiences. YOU DID NOT PAY FOR AN AD. PERIOD. So therefore, if an escort stands you up, you didn’t pay for a goddamn thing. The point of this thread was about paying these sites to post, and then having people waste our time for a week or 2 AFTER the ad has been paid for.

 

You, and everybody else would be mad, bitching and complaining too if you paid a deposit to an escort $79.99, and $39.99 for masseur plus $30 for a guy off adam: and they FUCKED you over by no showing: and then it happened 2-3 times in a row. Yet, we’re expected to fucking deal with this shit and not say a goddamn thing? I don’t think so ?