When you are asked for your stats

[TT3690]

I just ask for age just because if someone says they are in their 20’s or even 30’s they’re more likely to flake and play games. The older my clients are the better as I tend to get along with mature gents more. Nothing gets me harder and wetter than a silver, white or salt and pepper daddy to jump on, pounce and feast on them

 

As a younger client, I will say that it's not really fun to be discriminated against either. Some guys view my profile and just instantly block me without even having a conversation and I assume that's the reason.

[MikeBiDude]

As a younger client, I will say that it's not really fun to be discriminated against either. Some guys view my profile and just instantly block me without even having a conversation and I assume that's the reason.

Yes that’s unfortunate and indeed some providers have stated here that they are more skeptical of new younger client queries. That said if your request is made respectfully there are many, many providers who would delight in younger clients.

[marylander1940]

As a younger client, I will say that it's not really fun to be discriminated against either. Some guys view my profile and just instantly block me without even having a conversation and I assume that's the reason.

 

Do you share all your stats or just your age?

 

Maybe the block you because they think you guys might hang out in the same place or even share a few friends/acquaintance in common.

 

Considering the level of "Grindr fatigue" more young men who could easily hook up go into hiring.

Edited June 13, 2020 by marylander1940

[TT3690]

Do you share all your stats or just your age?

 

Maybe the block you because they think you guys might hang out in the same place or even share a few friends/acquaintance in common.

 

Considering the level of "Grindr fatigue" more young men who could easily hook up go into hiring.

 

My profile has age and full face pics and everything. On some occasions, I have found out that we have acquaintances in common, but it wasn't really an issue. Maybe it would be for some providers though.

[marylander1940]

Yes that’s unfortunate and indeed some providers have stated here that they are more skeptical of new younger client queries. That said if your request is made respectfully there are many, many providers who would delight in younger clients.

 

Dealing with folks shopping around is part of many businesses and activities. Blocking them because they fit the pattern of window shoppers is not very proactive.

 

Let's take each case at a time. Just because a profile has pictures and stats of young man that doesn't mean he'll flake.

 

My profile has age and full face pics and everything. On some occasions, I have found out that we have acquaintances in common, but it wasn't really an issue. Maybe it would be for some providers though.

 

There you got it!

 

That's why some are blocking you, others might think you're less likely to hire them.

 

Have you thought about logging off and texting them to make plans?

[TT3690]

There you got it!

 

That's why some are blocking you, others might think you're less likely to hire them.

 

Have you thought about logging off and texting them to make plans?

 

It's not that pervasive of an issue, most guys are more than willing to talk to and make plans with me. It's more of a way for me to weed out some undesirable guys, it's their loss the way I see it

[marylander1940]

It's not that pervasive of an issue, most guys are more than willing to talk to and make plans with me. It's more of a way for me to weed out some undesirable guys, it's their loss the way I see it

 

I edited my post agreeing with your last phrase right after you quoted me.

[Gymowner]

As a younger client, I will say that it's not really fun to be discriminated against either. Some guys view my profile and just instantly block me without even having a conversation and I assume that's the reason.

not to fret... in what seems like a second, father time will take care of that problem with vim and vigor!

[Gymowner]

i dont think i have ever been asked stats....but then again i do hire mostly straight escorts. since they are not attracted whatsoever to anything with a penis between their legs it doesnt matter to them if you are 24 and hot. reno gold could hit them up and they could care less. as a matter of fact, the real straight ones, if they found out it was a young hot gay, would probably pass on the session. i remember having this exact discussion with ryan of new york.

[xyz48B]

I do want a good level of compatibility with the guy I’m hiring. I’m up front with him and tell him if he’s not going to enjoy it, it won’t be fun for either of us. What upsets me more is not that an escort has a preferred type, but when he ghosts you after finding out you’re not his type. I find that extremely unprofessional and simply rude.

[down_to_business]

I think the burden should be on the provider and not on the client, but I am apparently far from the majority on this forum. Personally, I would like to see a standard area on rentmen profiles similar to....

Available For:

 

I Am Into:

 

I provide services to:

... where the escort could be specific (ie noone over a certain age, or a certain weight etc... or more broad if they don't want to publicly own their prejudice (i.e. I see ( or I am good with) everyone or I see only very select clientele etc.)

 

I also find it insultingly hypocritical how a few overbearing posters here consistently berate clients for not describing themselves (even if unintentionally) with 100% accuracy while justifying, excusing and even borderline blessing escorts to misrepresent themselves with reckless abandon.

[coriolis888]

 

Do you tell your chiropractor, barista, store clerk, insert other professional service here, what you look like? HELL NO!

 

 

With all due respect, your chiropractor, barista, store clerk, and/or other professional are not likely to have sex with you for money as an escort would.

 

Your comparison is not realistic.

Edited July 22, 2020 by coriolis888

[Gymowner]

i have to agree. its unfortunate but men are visual. thats what makes the peepee go up. put a hot little 22 year old pussy in front of a 78 year old man. need viagra? probably not. put a 78 year old hanging snatch in front of a 22 year old stud. need viagra? probably so. i know i'll get backlash for this statement but it is what it is. these escorts are not machines. the guys doing the griping are probably gonna be the ones in that category. there is a time to move on from sex, sex, sex and enjoy other aspects of life if this is too much to face or adjust to.

[xyz48B]

@Gymowner – To your point I think there’s a qualitative difference between a provider unable to get it up without chemical assistance and a provider refusing to see someone. I’m not here to say that either is right or wrong, but needing viagra isn’t the issue. The issue, as I see it, is whether providers just decide, for whatever reason, to only see clients of a particular type while some see a much wider pool.

 

That said, I probably wouldn’t like the personality type of a guy who’s liable to turn down meeting me based off of my undesirable qualities in the non-escorting gay sex world. Some are decent enough to say they don’t want to disappoint me by not delivering and some of those guys may well be genuine in that concern, but for others I suspect it’s “letting me down easy” while saving face in not needing to say I’m not his type. If there’s something I value more than anything it’s direct honesty, and I’m very good at ferreting out when I’m being verarsched.

[xyz48B]

I think the burden should be on the provider and not on the client

The provider should market themselves as the product – as crude as that sounds.

 

Some guys are desperate for work and will fuck anything that sort of moves. Others have guys blowing up their phones so they can be less concerned about getting clients. Others aren’t in it to “make money,” but want some lucrative fun on the side of life. Each of these types will provide a different kind of response toward prospective clients. As for me, I lose interest in a guy who out the gate, with little discussion, says he can deliver on what I’m looking for. He’s desperate for my money and likely won’t deliver because all he’s seeing in me is a means to cash. The guy who takes a little time to understand what you’re looking for wants to please you and get your money. The money is always part and parcel, but I expect a return on my investment.

[Gymowner]

xyz i totally get what you are saying. and by no means am i trying to belittle anyone. if its a "prejudice" sort of concern then thats not a good thing. if it has to do with the escort being embarrassed to have a bad session due to him not being able to get "jr" to work with a certain type of client and not having the chutzpah to say so then thats another story.

[Ghadd]

I provide services to:

... where the escort could be specific (ie noone over a certain age, or a certain weight etc... or more broad if they don't want to publicly own their prejudice (i.e. I see ( or I am good with) everyone or I see only very select clientele etc.)

That is something I would be very interested in. Not to shame the provider, but to remove a hurdle in the hiring process. When a provider's profile is clear about what they offer (and to whom), it'll attract that type of client. It would also let people who have a harder time with rejection know right away if a provider is worth approaching, or if the provider would decline/cancel after learning the client's attributes.

[xyz48B]

Some providers will include this info in their description. I find that helpful.

 

“No hang ups about you (age, height, weight etc) Sexually, I am open to most. Not many things are off limits. If you are into mild or wild, let’s chat. Kinks, fetishes or just something vanilla, I’m in. No discrimination or judgement and I expect the same.”

 

Reading something like that in a profile makes me expect the provider is indeed open. I still like to confirm because, unfortunately, though it’s written, it doesn’t mean that it’s accurate. Sometimes these ads are worth less than the paper they’re written on.

 

It has to make it especially difficult for the guys who do mean that when they write it. That’s why this forum is so invaluable. It helps separate the wheat from the weeds.

[Daverwr]

That is something I would be very interested in. Not to shame the provider, but to remove a hurdle in the hiring process. When a provider's profile is clear about what they offer (and to whom), it'll attract that type of client. It would also let people who have a harder time with rejection know right away if a provider is worth approaching, or if the provider would decline/cancel after learning the client's attributes.

I’ve said it before, RM does allow clients to submit a profile which can be accessed by the provider. I LOVE when a provider has read my profile just as I have his. I’ve been with a few providers where I notice in their actions They’ve read the profile. I’ve also talked with a few providers that call off our conversations midstream. I’m hoping it’s because our profiles didn’t mesh and not because of my dazzling conversation skills.

[marylander1940]

I just hope folks are truthful about their stats if asked by an escort and don't imaginary get rid of pounds and years.

[Daverwr]

Reading something like that in a profile makes me expect the provider is indeed open. I still like to confirm because, unfortunately, though it’s written, it doesn’t mean that it’s accurate. Sometimes these ads are worth less than the paper they’re written on.

 

I think it’s critical to verbally confirm everything prior to meeting a provider, regardless it being included in the profile. Not only does it confirm things for you it also lets the provider Know what you are looking for. It’s a win-win.

[Daverwr]

I just hope folks are truthful about their stats if asked by an escort and don't imaginary get rid of pounds and years.

NEVER!

 

Okay, I say I’m 5’7” when I’m really 5’6”. ?

[marylander1940]

NEVER!

 

Okay, I say I’m 5’7” when I’m really 5’6”. ?

 

? actually I was referring to other stats like age, body type, lbs., etc.

 

Nobody cares about that kind of inches.

[xyz48B]

I just hope folks are truthful about their stats if asked by an escort and don't imaginary get rid of pounds and years.

I just hope escorts are truthful about their stats if posted by them and don't imaginarily get rid of pounds and years.

 

As I say – what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The suspicion toward clients and blanket defense of nearly all escort behavior by some here I don’t fully understand. It’s a transaction. The escorts aren’t doing us a favor out of the goodness of their hearts – although some we have longer-term relationships with may come to like us and give us benefits. This is a business, and if the provider of services is shitty at providing the service, start to finish, then he rightfully could be criticized for that. A mover who has horrible customer service reps in the office isn’t going to get a 5-star review even if the actual guys doing the moving are good. The same for an escort. The time together may be great, if it happens, but advertising, reaching out, and booking should also be good for a holistically positive experience.

 

This idea that clients need to be reviewed is also odd to me. Walmart doesn’t care if I’m a good customer or not. They want my money so they sell me a product. The only thing they may consider about my worthiness is if I use a card to pay. If I pay with cash, they don’t care. While the comparison isn’t 1:1, it’s similar. A plumber doesn’t do a background check on someone who reaches out to have new bathroom fixtures installed. If you hire someone to mow your lawn, they aren’t going to need to know if you offered the poolboy a glass of iced tea or not. I can understand why a provider might want to know about their clients beforehand, but part of being in business is taking the risk that not every client is Mr. Rodgers. Sometimes you get a Karen.

 

Also – on the whole, how many clients are really that bad? Is the fear of a bad client really warranted? I may pose that question in the Ask An Escort forum. It seems like it’s an ongoing concern and I’m curious just how widespread bad clients are.

[marylander1940]

I just hope escorts are truthful about their stats if posted by them and don't imaginarily get rid of pounds and years.

 

As I say – what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The suspicion toward clients and blanket defense of nearly all escort behavior by some here I don’t fully understand. It’s a transaction. The escorts aren’t doing us a favor out of the goodness of their hearts – although some we have longer-term relationships with may come to like us and give us benefits. This is a business, and if the provider of services is shitty at providing the service, start to finish, then he rightfully could be criticized for that. A mover who has horrible customer service reps in the office isn’t going to get a 5-star review even if the actual guys doing the moving are good. The same for an escort. The time together may be great, if it happens, but advertising, reaching out, and booking should also be good for a holistically positive experience.

 

This idea that clients need to be reviewed is also odd to me. Walmart doesn’t care if I’m a good customer or not. They want my money so they sell me a product. The only thing they may consider about my worthiness is if I use a card to pay. If I pay with cash, they don’t care. While the comparison isn’t 1:1, it’s similar. A plumber doesn’t do a background check on someone who reaches out to have new bathroom fixtures installed. If you hire someone to mow your lawn, they aren’t going to need to know if you offered the poolboy a glass of iced tea or not. I can understand why a provider might want to know about their clients beforehand, but part of being in business is taking the risk that not every client is Mr. Rodgers. Sometimes you get a Karen.

 

Also – on the whole, how many clients are really that bad? Is the fear of a bad client really warranted? I may pose that question in the Ask An Escort forum. It seems like it’s an ongoing concern and I’m curious just how widespread bad clients are.

 

Are you comparing an escort to Walmart? Or to a plumber? Some handsome poolboys and lawn mowers wouldn't take a glass of iced tea afraid it might contain a roofie...

 

Not everybody could be an escort. It's a transaction but not everybody could deliver his part.

 

Do you tell them you're 31 upfront? Most clients are certainly older.