Will you lower your donation amount to make up for the pandemic?

[+ harey]

A general question to escorts: will you drop your rates in response to the economic devastation caused by COVID-19?Unemployment rates are high, many people have been furloughed, and retirement accounts have tanked. Is it reasonable that you will reduce rates somewhat to take into consideration that disposable incomes have declined?

[+ FrankR]

A general question to escorts: will you drop your rates in response to the economic devastation caused by COVID-19?Unemployment rates are high, many people have been furloughed, and retirement accounts have tanked. Is it reasonable that you will reduce rates somewhat to take into consideration that disposable incomes have declined?

In fairness, my retirement account balance is pretty much back to where it was in January 2020. Of course in this volatile market it could drop again at any time. But your question is very valid from a supply/demand perspective and folks are being mindfull of their spending.

[cany10011]

The OP poses a valid question. However, as a client, I‘ll pay whatever the escort is asking. Whatever rate they ask for is their own decision. But, from an economics /supply-demand standpoint, there probably will be an surfeit of escorts on the market. In the past, an excess number of guys (600 plus) on the market has not lowered the rates in manhattan (avg was 300) at least. So, not sure if that will be the case post pandemic. But, I guess they can make more on volume if prices are a little lower.

[+ DrownedBoy]

As a client, I always found it low-class to offer less than a provider asks for. They ask for what they want, and I say yay or nay.

 

Only once have I downright told someone their rates were too high, and quoted one of my regulars' rates, and gotten a counter offer I would accept. I'm leery of counteroffers since there might be resentment on the provider's part.

[Daverwr]

As a client, I agree the escort asks what he asks. If it’s too high, I simply say “Thank you. I’ll let you know.” I never haggle. I wouldn’t at Burberry and I wouldn’t here. But, what I do love to see is when there is a discount for multiple hours. (I always reserve more than one hour.)

[+ harey]

In fairness, my retirement account balance is pretty much back to where it was in January 2020. Of course in this volatile market it could drop again at any time. But your question is very valid from a supply/demand perspective and folks are being mindfull of their spending.

My usual sarcasm aside, I’m glad your retirement account rebounded.

[+ nycman]

The market will decide.

[instudiocity]

I don’t want a DISCOUNTED experience nor a half-rate companion.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

A general question to escorts: will you drop your rates in response to the economic devastation caused by COVID-19?Unemployment rates are high, many people have been furloughed, and retirement accounts have tanked. Is it reasonable that you will reduce rates somewhat to take into consideration that disposable incomes have declined?

 

Hate to be sarcastic, but what economic devastation?

 

It’s easy to get sucked into the random choice words that get thrown out on TV and media. And of course fear can push people into making desperate moves that don’t give justice. However, it requires careful listening and assessment to determine what exactly is going on.

 

If anything, everything that has happened is a window to opportunity. Less escorts/masseurs across the board is the 1st window. Since the start of the pandemonium, I’ve seen all types. One worked for Costco. Another was a hotel owner. Another was an electrician for a wealthy part of Arkansas. The tricky part is, not everyone is experiencing the same level of economic devastation. Some people and businesses are bankrolling. The SBA loans, the extra workload, the laid off employees...all amounts to extra money to spare. It’s like when a (comparing once again to a familiar disaster) hurricane strikes. They talk all about the devastation, but they don’t talk about the roofers who are making BILLIONS. I used to have a client who was one, he never left less than $300 sitting on the dresser. AND he would pay for the hotel, and let me keep it. Unlike these other cheap mofos out here that get on my last nerve.

 

Some men, especially gay men, will always try to find an excuse to be CHEAP. Even before the pandemic. I met a previous client who was great the first time, but recently told me he was laid off and unemployed. However, I remember last year, he was talking about his budget and such when we tried to set up a 2nd meet.

 

There’s no need to lie. I already know what they’re thinking. Some guys will pay a guy 1 time just for the experience, and then fail to make it happen again. They may even “try” to reconnect, but purposely say or do things to NOT make it happen. Just like this one email from someone:

 

My masseur move 3 yr ago and haven't found a replacement. I think you and I have been together once. Are you able to host today?

 

Immediately followed by:

 

I just seen that you are not in kc, guess u will not be able to get together

 

So this guy hasn’t found a replacement masseur in 3 years? I can see why. He’s probably annoyed every provider he’s contacted lol.

 

It doesn’t bother me if someone is having financial problems, but what blows me is when guys have the means, but want to be stingy with their sexual

partners. So I absolutely won’t be lowering my rates due to the pandemic, and so far I’ve still not met anyone for under 200 lately. Why would I? If I’m only seeing 1 or 2 clients a week due to:

 

1. fewer clients due to the health aspects, and

2. Less clients due to the money aspects.

 

So yeah I absolutely won’t be. One guy yesterday on adam4adam (which I’m once again considering withdrawing my membership from) offered to f**k $50. I referred him to my JFF page ?

Edited May 23, 2020 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

As a client, I agree the escort asks what he asks. If it’s too high, I simply say “Thank you. I’ll let you know.” I never haggle. I wouldn’t at Burberry and I wouldn’t here. But, what I do love to see is when there is a discount for multiple hours. (I always reserve more than one hour.)

 

I don't like keeping providers hanging with "let you know" phrases. A firm answer is easier.

 

Since the recession started, I'll be more specific, such as, "Sorry, I guess you're too high class for me." Markets work best when clear price signals get sent. Enough signals like that, and either providers drop their rates or drop out of escorting.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I don't like keeping providers hanging with "let you know" phrases. A firm answer is easier.

 

Since the recession started, I'll be more specific, such as, "Sorry, I guess you're too high class for me." Markets work best when clear price signals get sent. Enough signals like that, and either providers drop their rates or drop out of escorting.

 

I like the first part of your answer, but the 2nd part is overkill. There was a member in another thread telling me about not “burning bridges”, but certain phrases are bridge burners lol.

 

I think something like, “that’s higher than my budget will allow” leaves the door open for negotiation, without directly “insulting” or insinuating the escort is overpriced or not worth what they are asking.

 

A person may counter, “what is your budget?” And you can reply “$250.” And then he can say, “I’ll consider it for this time around being you’re a first time client and want to see me, and in future sessions we can perhaps arrange something that’ll work for both.”

 

But don’t be a prick and then cancel once agreed (goes for both parties).

[Daverwr]

I don't like keeping providers hanging with "let you know" phrases. A firm answer is

 

You are absolutely right. That is the wrong response for me to give. I need to close the loop.

 

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I think something like, “that’s higher than my budget will allow” leaves the door open for negotiation, without directly “insulting” or insinuating the escort is overpriced or not worth what they are asking.

 

A person may counter, “what is your budget?” And you can reply “$250.” And then he can say, “I’ll consider it for this time around being you’re a first time client and want to see me, and in future sessions we can perhaps arrange something that’ll work for both.”

I love your response! It is perfect and allows the provider to continue the conversation or end it. Thank you!

[down_to_business]

I will see my existing providers at our agreed upon rates when I start meeting up again. If I decide to be open to new providers, I will not be paying hyper inflated $300+ rates of the past-- but I will pay whatever reasonable rate we agree upon. I do not insult anyone (i.e. offer them $50).

 

For the guys that always pay full list price for anything they "buy", congrats.. here is a cookie as you appear to really want the acknowledgement.

 

[Daverwr]

 

For the guys that always pay full list price for anything they "buy", congrats.. here is a cookie as you appear to really want the acknowledgement.

 

Thanks for the cookie, but I really don’t believe I asked for it. I have been in retail my entire life and, unless you are at a swap meet or a garage sale, a listed price is the price. Period. It’s just how I was raised. Now that’s class!

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I will see my existing providers at our agreed upon rates when I start meeting up again. If I decide to be open to new providers, I will not be paying hyper inflated $300+ rates of the past-- but I will pay whatever reasonable rate we agree upon. I do not insult anyone (i.e. offer them $50).

 

For the guys that always pay full list price for anything they "buy", congrats.. here is a cookie as you appear to really want the acknowledgement.

 

But thing is, this thread wasn’t about “hyper inflated” $300+ rates. It was a general “will you lower your rates” question. It’s certainly a broad answer. Will a masseur who charges $100 lower their rates? Will an escort charging $150 lower his rates?

 

Not to mention, there is no “list” price anymore with the current trend of sites not letting us post rates. So therefore, clients have to recognize that the prices they get might not be what they expected or wanted to hear.

[down_to_business]

Thanks for the cookie, but I really don’t believe I asked for it. I have been in retail my entire life and, unless you are at a swap meet or a garage sale, a listed price is the price. Period. It’s just how I was raised. Now that’s class!

 

Class got nothing to do with how much you charge or pay for something, it's more about how you act and treat others.. but we will just agree to disagree.

 

By the way, can I refer you to a realtor and a car salesman. They tell me they love "classy" people like you

 

p.s. the cookie wasn't just for you, please share with the others.

 

But thing is, this thread wasn’t about “hyper inflated” $300+ rates. It was a general “will you lower your rates” question. It’s certainly a broad answer. Will a masseur who charges $100 lower their rates? Will an escort charging $150 lower his rates?

 

Not to mention, there is no “list” price anymore with the current trend of sites not letting us post rates. So therefore, clients have to recognize that the prices they get might not be what they expected or wanted to hear.

 

It may be different from the original thread, but it jumped the shark several postings before me. I just responded to the misdirection.

I don't think that anyone should lower their rates who does not want to or need to. I also agree that the removal of posted rates has simply opened a big can of worms for all of us and led to unnecessary wasting of time for both escorts and clients. Finally, I don't think anyone should value themselves based on how much they charge or pay for something. But this too varies from the original post.

Edited May 24, 2020 by down_to_business

[+ ButchAtl]

IF you have to announce or brag that you have class, you don't.

[handiacefailure]

I think escort demand will be down for quite a while even if we do manage to get covid under control. I've been lucky enough so far to keep my job and income but won't want to hire for a while for safety reasons. I also usually hire when I travel since I can't find reliable escorts in the NW Ohio/SE Michigan area and I haven't been on a plane since early march and won't be travelling in the foreseeable future so if it's an escort in a big city who meets a lot of travellers their business there will be down as well.

 

Not sure if Escorts set their prices on a supply/demand like a lot of companies do or not.

[Guest MikeThomas]

Once it’s okay to hire again, I plan on doubling my hiring rate. Instead of one every two weeks.. once a week. gonna do my bit to “pump” more money into the escorting community. The Feds should give me a grant, or make hiring tax deductible.

[orville]

I already got a "regular client rate" with my regulars. I would not expect them to charge me less than that after Covid. Talking about providers I haven't met yet, I wouldn't behave different. I would pay what they ask if I can afford them. Clients and escorts are still charged the same price for any product or service despite the pandemic. Escorts aren't companies with financial cushions to offer reduced rates, they are pretty much individuals running an independent business with limited capacity of delivery but fixed costs like rent, groceries, supplements to stay in shape, etc. I would feel bad asking for a discount. I would prefer to not hire or knocking my rocks off in another way, rather than asking them to compromise their businesses. Layoffs and paycuts are not their fault and they still have to cover their expenses to live.

Edited May 25, 2020 by orville

[Guest Cayden]

No... I won’t. The high-end clients will not be as financially impacted by this, so there isn’t much of a need from my point of view. Some on the thread have pointed out that there will likely be guys that begin lowering rates and unemployed and underemployed guys will begin trying to be providers for third world rates, and i have no interest in participating in that.

You get what you pay for and I would rather not take a client at all, than lower my rates and cheapen what I do. I have a full-time career job and investments so if I never took another client again...I’d be okay with that.??‍♂️

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

No, I won’t. The high-end clients will not be as financially impacted by this, so there isn’t much of a need from my point of view. Some on the thread have pointed out that there will likely be guys that begin lowering rates and unemployed and underemployed guys will begin trying to be providers for third world rates and, i have no interest in participating in that.

You get what you pay for and I would rather not take a client at all, than lower my rates and cheapen what I do. I have a full-time career job and investments so if I never took another client again...I’d be okay with that.??‍♂️

 

Well-said.