Whatever happened to Stephen Draker?

[+ Gar1eth]

 

 

 

 

Btw if Mr. Draker was posting now (retired or not) you would never dare to say anything negative about him.

 

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-miamihotguy-and-sandroxx-in-miami.118629/#post-1175409

 

Gman

[marylander1940]

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-miamihotguy-and-sandroxx-in-miami.118629/#post-1175409

 

Gman

 

Steven Draker wasn't posting in 2016....

Edited August 28, 2019 by marylander1940

[+ WilliamM]

Does he post on here?

 

He did a number of years ago.

[BabyBoomer]

He was banned from this site during the summer of 2015.

 

~Boomer~

[LookingAround]

He’s Flemish and I’m Dutch. I used to call him a “dominee” (minister) because he could be puritanical about some things. He had a stereotype that if you enjoyed a bathhouse you by definition—and no discussion about it had—a drug addiction. I enjoy bathhouses and I don’t do any drugs and never have. He never believed me and whenever the topic would come up he always cast me as a drug abuser.

[MscleLovr]

It was a different world, not as many guys were escorting back then.

 

You’re kidding @marylander1940 In 2003/2004 there were thousands of working guys in Europe, with more than 1000 running adverts in London alone, and I suspect there were many in major US cities. Certainly SD was a very prominent traveling escort.

 

Btw if Mr. Draker was posting now (retired or not) you would never dare to say anything negative about him.

 

That is so very true. His venom and vitriol were spectacular. SD kept them to private messages for a long time - once he tried to extort me by threatening to ‘out’ me until I pointed out that everyone knew I was gay. Eventually the venom and vitriol spilled out in this forum. He was banned 2x IIRC before he went on to display his true character as IceFireWizard as @ArVaGuy rightly observed.

 

In never meeting SD, I truly feel I dodged a bullet.

[marylander1940]

You’re kidding @marylander1940 In 2003/2004 there were thousands of working guys in Europe, with more than 1000 running adverts in London alone, and I suspect there were many in major US cities. Certainly SD was a very prominent traveling escort..

 

No, I'm not kidding!

 

In 2003/2004 there were by far less guys escorting than now a days....

 

That is so very true. His venom and vitriol were spectacular. SD kept them to private messages for a long time - once he tried to extort me by threatening to ‘out’ me until I pointed out that everyone knew I was gay. Eventually the venom and vitriol spilled out in this forum. He was banned 2x IIRC before he went on to display his true character as IceFireWizard as @ArVaGuy rightly observed.

 

In never meeting SD, I truly feel I dodged a bullet.

 

I didn't know that one... he once told me not to quote nor comment on HIS threads.

 

The IceFireWizard was a remarkable incident, or so I've been told.

[+ Gar1eth]

So did I. He had a unique perspective on things. Too bad I never met him.

Me too.. i will never know what it was like to be with the “Muscles from Brussels”...sigh.

 

I never knew Jean-Claude Van Damme used to escort.

 

 

 

Gman

[+ ArVaGuy]

He’s Flemish and I’m Dutch. I used to call him a “dominee” (minister) because he could be puritanical about some things. He had a stereotype that if you enjoyed a bathhouse you by definition—and no discussion about it had—a drug addiction. I enjoy bathhouses and I don’t do any drugs and never have. He never believed me and whenever the topic would come up he always cast me as a drug abuser.

 

He may be Flemish but I’d surmise his ethnicity may be of Russian heritage. By chance during an overnight session with him I awoke a bit early. The hotel had slipped his bill under the door and I learned his real name. The last name ended in “ov” and the name was clearly of Russian extraction. I didn’t mention that I’d learned his real name ast it was quite accidental.

[BaronArtz]

He’s Flemish and I’m Dutch. I used to call him a “dominee” (minister) because he could be puritanical about some things. He had a stereotype that if you enjoyed a bathhouse you by definition—and no discussion about it had—a drug addiction. I enjoy bathhouses and I don’t do any drugs and never have. He never believed me and whenever the topic would come up he always cast me as a drug abuser.

 

Are you talking about Steven Draker or about Jean Claude Vandamme (born Van Varenberg)? I believe Jean Claude is French-speaking, from Brussels, Belgium. In Belgium, it is not unusual for Flemish people to have French names and for Walloons to have Flemish names.

 

Jean Claude in his early life was an attendant at a ladies' hair salon. Not exactly a 'straight' career choice. There is hope ...

Edited August 28, 2019 by BaronArtz

[+ Gar1eth]

Me too.. i will never know what it was like to be with the “Muscles from Brussels”...sigh.

He’s Flemish and I’m Dutch. I used to call him a “dominee” (minister) because he could be puritanical about some things. He had a stereotype that if you enjoyed a bathhouse you by definition—and no discussion about it had—a drug addiction. I enjoy bathhouses and I don’t do any drugs and never have. He never believed me and whenever the topic would come up he always cast me as a drug abuser.

I never knew Jean-Claude Van Damme used to escort.

 

 

 

Gman

Are you talking about Steven Draker or about Jean Claude Vandamme (born Van Varenberg)? I believe Jean Claude is French-speaking, from Brussels, Belgium. In Belgium, it is not unusual for Flemish people to have French names and for Walloons to have Flemish names.

 

Jean Claude in his early life was an attendant at a ladies' hair salon. Not exactly a 'straight' career choice. There is hope ...

 

@cany10011 was I'm sure talking about Mr. Draker. He used the term 'muscle from Brussels.' That epithet is commonly used for Jean Claude. So I added my comment. While I can't be sure, I'm assuming @LookingAround was also speaking of Mr. Draker.

 

Gman

[Leyte2019]

In 2003/2004 there were by far less guys escorting than now a days....

 

The final years of finding straight (or "straight") trade in gay bars!

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I met for the first time at the DC gathering in 2015. I was immediately pulled in by his accent. I enjoyed chatting with him a couple of times that weekend.

 

I was traveling a few months later and was surprised to discover our travel plans had us both in the same town. I was able to contact him and we were able to spend the evening together. I have only the fondest memories about my personal interactions with him.

[rvwnsd]

...Dominant? More like bitchy...

... His venom and vitriol were spectacular. SD kept them to private messages for a long time...He was banned 2x IIRC before he went on to display his true character as IceFireWizard as @ArVaGuy rightly observed....

 

Upon seeing this thread I started to reply "He dissolved in his own bile and vitriol," but you guys pretty much beat me to it.

[marylander1940]

Upon seeing this thread I started to reply "He dissolved in his own bile and vitriol," but you guys pretty much beat me to it.

 

You’re already contributing bumping this!

[Epigonos]

I got together with him ONLY once and that was most definitely enough. I waited for him for over an hour at his hotel and when he finally did arrive I had the feeling I was in a meat market and my number had finally been called. Not really a negative experience just NOT much of an experience period.

[rvwnsd]

You’re already contributing bumping this!

Oh, I'm not criticizing! More of a kudos to the two of you for saying it first.

 

But seriously, we discussed getting together, but that little voice inside said "No, no! Don't do it" So i didn't.

 

It is unfortunate so many guys had a mediocre to bad time with him. Perhaps he couldn't keep up the facade.

[Bargara Leatherboy]

WOW

 

I seemed to have stirred up the full gamut of emotions here.

 

Sorry if I raised bad memories.

 

My fantasy has been shattered, but that's ok.

 

What an amazing lesson to learn :-

 

Profile is not always what it seems

 

reviews are not always what they seem.

 

I have a new appreciation of the great men I hire..

 

Thanks to all the beautiful souls who shared

[+ ArVaGuy]

WOW

 

I seemed to have stirred up the full gamut of emotions here.

 

Sorry if I raised bad memories.

 

My fantasy has been shattered, but that's ok.

 

What an amazing lesson to learn :-

 

Profile is not always what it seems

 

reviews are not always what they seem.

 

I have a new appreciation of the great men I hire..

 

Thanks to all the beautiful souls who shared

 

 

There’s nothing to apologize for related to this thread. As you noted, profiles are not always accurate and reviews are subjective and occasionally misleading.

 

Steven Draker was a complex character on this message board. He was one of the most popular guys some years back. My first encounter with him was outstanding, subsequent sessions no so much. That callipygian ass was beautiful to behold.

 

This thread has illustrated the complexities of this business.

[BaronArtz]

What surprises me most about this thread is how strongly-felt the emotions are about Steven Draker, so many years after his departure from the forum and from the business. How many years has it been?

 

He touched us in a special way - good or bad.

 

I almost wish he would come back to the board, just for old times' sake ...

[+ WilliamM]

What surprises me most about this thread is how strongly-felt the emotions are about Steven Draker, so many years after his departure from the forum and from the business. How many years has it been?

 

He touched us in a special way - good or bad.

 

I almost wish he would come back to the board, just for old times' sake ...

 

I am surprised too, because he's someone I barely remember.

[marylander1940]

I got together with him ONLY once and that was most definitely enough. I waited for him for over an hour at his hotel and when he finally did arrive I had the feeling I was in a meat market and my number had finally been called. Not really a negative experience just NOT much of an experience period.

 

Yet, he was the meat!

 

Busy and successful escort for sure, I hope he saved his money.

[Guest MikeThomas]

He may have had his issues, none of which I experienced, but he was no Scott Randsome.

[jawjateck]

Ah, the good ole days of Hooville.....

[Scorpio]

He may have had his issues, none of which I experienced, but he was no Scott Randsome.

 

I think you might mean Scott Sloan