Every Escort is bi or straight?

[hypothetically]

Wow interesting. Your saying the gab is for the gullible?

 

I am. I do not doubt there are straight (ish) men on RentMen, but you’ll be surprised at the number of gay men who don’t even know what RentMen is. With that being said, do you really think straight men, as oblivious as they are, found RentMen on their own and formulated language to appeal specifically to gay men. Please. Being the “trade” sells. I do not think the authenticity of the caricature is important. Is it the visual you want? Are you turned on? Does it get you off? You’re hiring to get off, not to examine someone’s psychology about why they present themselves a certain way to you and to others. If you enjoy it, they’re doing a phenomenal job of what they’re suppose to be doing, selling you a fantasy. If you do not enjoy it, it’s not for you, or their acting is trash.

[+ Gar1eth]

"Straight-acting" doesn't mean straight. And the way many gay men are only attracted to so-called straight-acting men often crosses the line from being attracted to what is difficult to have to preferring straightness over queerness.

 

If not self-loathing, it's buying into life on heteronormative terms.

 

But we like what we like. You could even theorize a biological basis-that as gay men our attractions/desires for men are similar to the attractions straight females have for men. I admit to just supposing here. But if our attractions for men are similar to the attractions straight women feel, then how many women-and I'm talking about in broad society/cultural terms, not individual cases- are attracted to effeminate men?

 

Gman

[+ José Soplanucas]

[LivingnLA]

I know humans are evolved to be highly resistant to data, ideas, and research that contradict already held beliefs, but please for the love of humanity stop boxing yourself and everyone else in! Much of human experience is a cultural and social construction. Sure there are biological underpinnings for many things, but the kind of sexual activity we engage in can change over time based on environmental factors.

 

I've written about this in many threads, so I'm just posting two fun and informative links on the topic:

 

https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2014/8/7/10-mesmerizing-facts-about-sexual-attraction

 

https://othersociologist.com/sociology-of-sexuality/

 

 

As I have said many times before, escorts are businesses. They advertise what they perceive the market wants. Due to many cultural issues, a significant portion of the potential market is attracted to heternormative tropes and images. This is why we see such a large number of ads from providers who are non-gay. Though, based on the counts in an earlier reply, it's good to see that a plurality of ads were from gay providers.

 

Escorting is a fantasy business, just like porn. The messaging is frequently not real because that's what the market wants.

[+ Gar1eth]

 

Escorting is a fantasy business, just like porn. The messaging is frequently not real because that's what the market wants.

 

I hope you aren't trying to tell me that all the escorts who say they like older bear-ish types are not being totally honest.

 

Gman

[MikeBiDude]

I hope you aren't trying to tell me that all the escorts who say they like older bear-ish types are not being totally honest.

 

Gman

[LivingnLA]

I hope you aren't trying to tell me that all the escorts who say they like older bear-ish types are not being totally honest.

 

Gman

 

I would never say such things because the number of younger hot built men who are into older bearish types seems notable, which appears to align with some ideas about how our sense of attraction develops.

Edited June 7, 2019 by LivingnLA

[MikeBiDude]

I would never say such things because the number of younger hot built men who are into older bearish types is fairly high, which aligns with our understanding of human sexuality.

[gallahadesquire]

I would never say such things because the number of younger hot built men who are into older bearish types is fairly high, which aligns with our understanding of human sexuality.

Interesting. Can you expound on this observation? It’s not one I’ve encountered in my personal history or medical career.

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[LivingnLA]

Interesting. Can you expound on this observation? It’s not one I’ve encountered in my personal history or medical career.

.

 

Well, to be fair, I was being a bit lazy above. The research is ongoing and not decided yet. But there are some promising hints or potential insights. For me, these have lined up well over the years with my experiences and interactions in my personal and professional lives. But, all of that could be happenstance.

 

Are you familiar with Attachment as it relates to this topic? The idea that we are attracted to someone familiar? Well, it seems to be more complicated than that but there seems to be something there.

 

http://www.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk/research/vision/jwp/papers/pentonvoak1999.pdf

 

It has to do with how the learned aspects of attraction are formed early and how on average humans are waiting to have children so on average parents are older. Here's a good article that starts to talk about it.

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656613000445

 

I'll dig for a few other citations in the morning. I'm a zombie right now.

[+ sniper]

Interesting. Can you expound on this observation? It’s not one I’ve encountered in my personal history or medical career.

.

 

I think many males are like ducklings and imprint on what they jerked off to in middle school. For some boys that was the football coach. And many coaches tend to be a bit on the bearish side.

 

At least that's my totally unscientific opinion.

 

My above hypothesis also covers why a not-small fraction of men seem to only get into a very specific type of person.

[MikeBiDude]

I think many males are like ducklings and imprint on what they jerked off to in middle school

I’ve often wondered about this. I know my “type” that turns my head every time is the blond/blue/smooth/surfer guys I grew up with and actually jerked off together with on occasion.

 

That said I’m also happy a few gents way outside my type convinced me to step outside my usual and experience the plethora of men!

[+ quoththeraven]

But we like what we like. You could even theorize a biological basis-that as gay men our attractions/desires for men are similar to the attractions straight females have for men. I admit to just supposing here. But if our attractions for men are similar to the attractions straight women feel, then how many women-and I'm talking about in broad society/cultural terms, not individual cases- are attracted to effeminate men?

 

Gman

Social cues influence, even circumscribe, what we like.

 

Why do you think kpop artists, who in American culture are considered femme/effeminate, are so popular with girls and women? Has anyone given thought to the idea that presenting as non-traditionally masculine may signal that they're not a threat to women?

[marylander1940]

I’ve often wondered about this. I know my “type” that turns my head every time is the blond/blue/smooth/surfer guys I grew up with and actually jerked off together with on occasion.

 

That said I’m also happy a few gents way outside my type convinced me to step outside my usual and experience the plethora of men!

 

I'm always surprised Hispanic and Asian men like you having such a high preference to hire blond/Nordic men. I wonder if it's because as we get older and need to hire, we usually pick what we couldn't have when we were young.

 

I'm glad to have an open type but Mediterranean and Middle Eastern guys are definitively on top of my list.

Edited June 7, 2019 by marylander1940

[+ WilliamM]

I'm always surprised Hispanic and Asian men like you having such a high preference to hire blond/Nordic men. I wonder if it's because as we get older and need to hire, we usually pick what we couldn't have when we were young.

 

I'm glad to have an open type but Mediterranean and Middle Eastern guys are definitively on top of my list.

 

My type is a nice ass based on views in shower rooms in high school, the military and at New Jersey beaches.

[+ Gar1eth]

"Straight-acting" doesn't mean straight. And the way many gay men are only attracted to so-called straight-acting men often crosses the line from being attracted to what is difficult to have to preferring straightness over queerness.

 

If not self-loathing, it's buying into life on heteronormative terms.

But we like what we like. You could even theorize a biological basis-that as gay men our attractions/desires for men are similar to the attractions straight females have for men. I admit to just supposing here. But if our attractions for men are similar to the attractions straight women feel, then how many women-and I'm talking about in broad society/cultural terms, not individual cases- are attracted to effeminate men?

 

Gman

Social cues influence, even circumscribe, what we like.

 

Why do you think kpop artists, who in American culture are considered femme/effeminate, are so popular with girls and women? Has anyone given thought to the idea that presenting as non-traditionally masculine may signal that they're not a threat to women?

 

I did mention attraction being within the bounds of culture. And the same thing happens with many teenage girls here in the US of A and androgynous male teenage pop stars like Justin Bieber.

 

But since we are actually talking about men, and while we might have attractions similar to women, there are obvious differences too. At least stereotypically, men most likely wouldn't need an attraction to someone 'less threatening'. And even women have more attractions than just wanting a safe guy- or is the good girl going after the bad boy whom she can reform just a literary/movie trope?

 

And of course there are guys on here who like more effeminate guys.

 

And when you really think about it. It's not really 'straight-acting'. It's more average acting. The majority of guys act within certain broad limits. And that's what I prefer. I don't like uber-macho guys, and on the other end, I don't like overly effeminate guys either. But I'm not really fond of overly macho women either.

 

Gman

[studchaser]

I am. I do not doubt there are straight (ish) men on RentMen, but you’ll be surprised at the number of gay men who don’t even know what RentMen is. With that being said, do you really think straight men, as oblivious as they are, found RentMen on their own and formulated language to appeal specifically to gay men. Please. Being the “trade” sells. I do not think the authenticity of the caricature is important. Is it the visual you want? Are you turned on? Does it get you off? You’re hiring to get off, not to examine someone’s psychology about why they present themselves a certain way to you and to others. If you enjoy it, they’re doing a phenomenal job of what they’re suppose to be doing, selling you a fantasy. If you do not enjoy it, it’s not for you, or their acting is trash.

 

In my experience dealing with 100 percent str8 guys they were mortified to be posted anywhere. They never lost that aw shucks cluelessness and that waa the most fascinating. The naive cluelessness A friend of mine brought a str8 guy to a broadway show and he asked" you mean they they do the same show every night?" Client was so turned on and his balls were emptied later on.

 

I dont need the thespians and poets. Gimme an oil rigger who hasnt been to work in a few weeks worryin how he will pay child support. Clean em up take him to a museum and you get to see the world thru new eyes.

 

I actually think gay men are more emotionally intelligent which makes them great for deep intellectual conversation but when you need someone primal who doesnt think about his masculinity can drag on rusted paint stained jeans a baseball cap and look like perfectiom shopping at home depot.....i lost my train of thought

[+ bashful]

Clean em up take him to a museum and you get to see the world thru new eyes.

 

Time to renew my membership to the Art Institute.

[hypothetically]

In my experience dealing with 100 percent str8 guys they were mortified to be posted anywhere. They never lost that aw shucks cluelessness and that waa the most fascinating. The naive cluelessness A friend of mine brought a str8 guy to a broadway show and he asked" you mean they they do the same show every night?" Client was so turned on and his balls were emptied later on.

 

I dont need the thespians and poets. Gimme an oil rigger who hasnt been to work in a few weeks worryin how he will pay child support. Clean em up take him to a museum and you get to see the world thru new eyes.

 

I actually think gay men are more emotionally intelligent which makes them great for deep intellectual conversation but when you need someone primal who doesnt think about his masculinity can drag on rusted paint stained jeans a baseball cap and look like perfectiom shopping at home depot.....i lost my train of thought

 

To each their own.

[+ José Soplanucas]

In my experience dealing with 100 percent str8 guys they were mortified to be posted anywhere. They never lost that aw shucks cluelessness and that waa the most fascinating. The naive cluelessness A friend of mine brought a str8 guy to a broadway show and he asked" you mean they they do the same show every night?" Client was so turned on and his balls were emptied later on.

 

I dont need the thespians and poets. Gimme an oil rigger who hasnt been to work in a few weeks worryin how he will pay child support. Clean em up take him to a museum and you get to see the world thru new eyes.

 

I actually think gay men are more emotionally intelligent which makes them great for deep intellectual conversation but when you need someone primal who doesnt think about his masculinity can drag on rusted paint stained jeans a baseball cap and look like perfectiom shopping at home depot.....i lost my train of thought

 

It looks like what turns you on is ignorance. Which obviously is not equivalent to or monopolized by straight men.

[+ WilliamM]

A friend of mine brought a str8 guy to a broadway show and he asked" you mean they they do the same show every night?" like perfectiom shopping at home depot.....i lost my train of thought

 

In other words, you are turned on by extremely unsophisticated men.

[KeepItReal]

In other words, you are turned on by extremely unsophisticated men.

Also known as Johnny Bravo syndrome. LOL!

[marylander1940]

In my experience dealing with 100 percent str8 guys they were mortified to be posted anywhere. They never lost that aw shucks cluelessness and that waa the most fascinating. The naive cluelessness A friend of mine brought a str8 guy to a broadway show and he asked" you mean they they do the same show every night?" Client was so turned on and his balls were emptied later on.

 

I dont need the thespians and poets. Gimme an oil rigger who hasnt been to work in a few weeks worryin how he will pay child support. Clean em up take him to a museum and you get to see the world thru new eyes.

 

I actually think gay men are more emotionally intelligent which makes them great for deep intellectual conversation but when you need someone primal who doesnt think about his masculinity can drag on rusted paint stained jeans a baseball cap and look like perfectiom shopping at home depot.....i lost my train of thought

 

I had plenty of real straight men when I served in the Navy.

 

Does your friend ever think about those straight guys thinking on boobs while he sucks them off or feeling guilty after having gay sex with him?

[marylander1940]

In other words, you are turned on by extremely unsophisticated men.

 

I know a lot of gay men just like that, specially now that young folks have their face buried on their phones and they're only receiving news that way based on their google searches.

 

Also known as Johnny Bravo syndrome. LOL!

 

That looks like a blond Jersey Shore guy!

[+ WilliamM]

I know a lot of gay men just like that, specially now that young folks have their face buried on their phones and they're only receiving news that way based on their google searches.

 

 

 

He is not writing about gay men, @marylander1940. Rather his focus is on clueless straight men. And his comments apparently ignore all forms of modern communication.