Advertising safe only but then actually does BB

[Monarchy79]

I won’t debate with anyone today.

I’ll jusy say this:

I’ve been a condom user for 22 years, and I’ve never contracted an STD and am HIV negative.

 

Judge me if you like, and call me silly and “old fashioned”.

 

Gay guys see PrEP the same way that straights see the birth control pill. They’re focus is on protection from ONE thing, and the others are ignored.

[MassageAdam]

I won’t debate with anyone today.

I’ll jusy say this:

I’ve been a condom user for 22 years, and I’ve never contracted an STD and am HIV negative.

 

Judge me if you like, and call me silly and “old fashioned”.

 

Gay guys see PrEP the same way that straights see the birth control pill. They’re focus is on protection from ONE thing, and the others are ignored.

I guess you missed the part of my post where it says I wasn't inviting peoples comments and judgments about bb'ing. SMH. If I wanted your opinion about that, I would have asked.

[+ Reisr30]

I am not judging anyone about their decision to BB that is for them to decide as we are all adults. I myself will usually meet with companions who outline they don't BB and will ALWAYS insist on condom use since you never know how accurate profiles are; although I tend to give people the benefit of believing they are being honest about their practices.

[Monarchy79]

I guess you missed the part of my post where it says I wasn't inviting peoples comments and judgments about bb'ing. SMH. If I wanted your opinion about that, I would have asked.

 

I guess many people missed it, as I’m not the only person who commented about barebacking.

Yet, you didn’t address them, and they responded directly to you.

[+ oldNbusted]

I guess you missed the part of my post where it says I wasn't inviting peoples comments and judgments about bb'ing. SMH. If I wanted your opinion about that, I would have asked.

 

Fundamentalists always feel at liberty to impose their beliefs on everyone, so no need to ask...

[Monarchy79]

Fundamentalists always feel at liberty to impose their beliefs on everyone, so no need to ask...

 

Yeah, and you just exercised that “ liberty” when you posted your comment. Fellow fundamentalist...... ?

[+ oldNbusted]

Yeah, and you just exercised that “ liberty” when you posted your comment. Fellow fundamentalist...... ?

 

[Monarchy79]

Thank for such a warm invitation. ?

[Mocha]

I think Rhyheim Shabazz said it better than anyone: "Call me naive but for me it’s all about putting up a defense and not being paranoid".

The only safe sex is no sex. You can get STDs even from dry kissing.

 

That is true. Barebacking isn’t the only way to catch something. Catching Giardiasis from eating ass or getting a sore throat and realizing it’s not “just a cold”...are all possibilities.

 

Otherwise, he’s right. You can’t live in fear, so I found one of the ways to prevent STI’s is herbal remedies.

 

I take urinary tract supplements, Cranberry juice (has to be 100% juice and not mixed with other juices) for preventative dick infections, and Black Walnut and Wormwood for preventative parasite infections.

 

Even though the testing clinics don’t recommend using herbal remedies to treat stuff, I can say it’s kept me clean on many occasions. I tell them, well hey...I’m not trying to be worried about being up in the doctors office everytime I have sex, so I have to do things to protect myself in the interim in between testing.

[Mocha]

I guess you missed the part of my post where it says I wasn't inviting peoples comments and judgments about bb'ing. SMH. If I wanted your opinion about that, I would have asked.

 

I know you weren’t directing that statement at me, but I’m going to step in, in defense of @Monarchy79

 

You said: I didn't care as I'm on PREP (and I'm not looking for comments but being at risk for other STI's.)

 

Guess what? There’s no way around it. You asked a question, then included something which insinuated you were okay with the switching of protective services.

 

So if you didn’t care, then why would you care whether the escort posts safe and then does bareback? You can’t contradict or make it seem like your choice is better than theirs.

 

Are you trying to say you wish the guys who post safe would simply put bareback, so it would make your choices simpler? If so, that’s a different topic. But if you’re going to discuss bareback and say “but I’m on prep, I didn’t care”, you have to be prepared to get a wide array of responses.

[MassageAdam]

I guess many people missed it, as I’m not the only person who commented about barebacking.

Yet, you didn’t address them, and they responded directly to you.

It's because in most of the posts I read that are written by you, you whine, bitch and complain about things and act like some sort of victim and I WOULD LOVE to call you on your shit, but then I tell myself, that's his right.

[Monarchy79]

It's because in most of the posts I read that are written by you, you whine, bitch and complain about things and act like some sort of victim and I WOULD LOVE to call you on your shit, but then I tell myself, that's his right.

First of all, I don’t whine, bitch or complain. Also, I’ve NEVER been a victim.

I clearly say what I feel, and I don’t disrespect others who have their opinions. What I don’t appreciate is bitchy assWHOLES who attempt at annoying me with snippy comments, insults and comments.

 

This is a open forum, where ALL opinions should be respected and regarded.

 

And before you ever address me again, I would suggest you hop off of those raw penises you regularly sit on, and review my posts and properly READ and COMPREHEND them, before posting uniformed, snippy, bitchy, insulting comments.

 

One thing I don’t do is disrespect others. Yet, here you are, using profanity, and “attempting”, to call me out on my “shit”.

 

Well let me call you out on your shit:

1.) you’re a blasphemous hypocrite. You post commentary on an escort’s barebacking choices, when in fact, that escort has the SAME ideologies on sex practices as you do!! Yet you judge him.

 

2.) Your initial post is flat out contradictory in every sense of the word. The fact that you prefer bareback actually had no relevance to the story until YOU decided to include it. Then had the audacity to confront me for making a comment on MY practices. Again, your lack of comprehension clearly was displayed, as others on the same forum addressed this.

 

3.) You should have listened to that “inner voice”, that told you “that’s his right” because it is my RIGHT, and I will always excercise it.

 

So for future reference, watch your tone, and be more respectful. Maybe you’ll learn something one day.

 

Warm Regards,

Your Sincerest Reality Check. ?

[+ OliverSaks]

Cranberry juice for UTI’s has been thoroughly debunked in the medical literature. If you like the taste and it makes you *feel* protected, by all means chug away.

[marylander1940]

Thank for such a warm invitation. ?

 

Enjoy while it last, they're always tempted to click "see the ignored content".

[marylander1940]

I think Rhyheim Shabazz said it better than anyone: "Call me naive but for me it’s all about putting up a defense and not being paranoid".

The only safe sex is no sex. You can get STDs even from dry kissing.

 

I just want to remind folks but if gay men had kept using condoms in the 90's and the early 2000's HIV now would be a thing of the past. We all have lost friends in the 80's who didn't know their lives could have been saved just by using a condom.

 

As much as I appreciate (and use) PrEP I think it has become a new entitlement in a country with already too many of them.

[Quincy_7]

Apart from helping avoid STDs, condoms also stop you from getting shit dick.

[Rudynate]

First of all, I don’t whine, bitch or complain. Also, I’ve NEVER been a victim.

I clearly say what I feel, and I don’t disrespect others who have their opinions. What I don’t appreciate is bitchy assWHOLES who attempt at annoying me with snippy comments, insults and comments.

 

This is a open forum, where ALL opinions should be respected and regarded.

 

And before you ever address me again, I would suggest you hop off of those raw penises you regularly sit on, and review my posts and properly READ and COMPREHEND them, before posting uniformed, snippy, bitchy, insulting comments.

 

One thing I don’t do is disrespect others. Yet, here you are, using profanity, and “attempting”, to call me out on my “shit”.

 

Well let me call you out on your shit:

1.) you’re a blasphemous hypocrite. You post commentary on an escort’s barebacking choices, when in fact, that escort has the SAME ideologies on sex practices as you do!! Yet you judge him.

 

2.) Your initial post is flat out contradictory in every sense of the word. The fact that you prefer bareback actually had no relevance to the story until YOU decided to include it. Then had the audacity to confront me for making a comment on MY practices. Again, your lack of comprehension clearly was displayed, as others on the same forum addressed this.

 

3.) You should have listened to that “inner voice”, that told you “that’s his right” because it is my RIGHT, and I will always excercise it.

 

So for future reference, watch your tone, and be more respectful. Maybe you’ll learn something one day.

 

Warm Regards,

Your Sincerest Reality Check. ?

First of all, I don’t whine, bitch or complain. Also, I’ve NEVER been a victim.

I clearly say what I feel, and I don’t disrespect others who have their opinions. What I don’t appreciate is bitchy assWHOLES who attempt at annoying me with snippy comments, insults and comments.

 

This is a open forum, where ALL opinions should be respected and regarded.

 

And before you ever address me again, I would suggest you hop off of those raw penises you regularly sit on, and review my posts and properly READ and COMPREHEND them, before posting uniformed, snippy, bitchy, insulting comments.

 

One thing I don’t do is disrespect others. Yet, here you are, using profanity, and “attempting”, to call me out on my “shit”.

 

Well let me call you out on your shit:

1.) you’re a blasphemous hypocrite. You post commentary on an escort’s barebacking choices, when in fact, that escort has the SAME ideologies on sex practices as you do!! Yet you judge him.

 

2.) Your initial post is flat out contradictory in every sense of the word. The fact that you prefer bareback actually had no relevance to the story until YOU decided to include it. Then had the audacity to confront me for making a comment on MY practices. Again, your lack of comprehension clearly was displayed, as others on the same forum addressed this.

 

3.) You should have listened to that “inner voice”, that told you “that’s his right” because it is my RIGHT, and I will always excercise it.

 

So for future reference, watch your tone, and be more respectful. Maybe you’ll learn something one day.

 

Warm Regards,

Your Sincerest Reality Check. ?

 

 

Just a reminder-this forum is a private venue. There is no right of free speech here.

[Monarchy79]

Just a reminder-this forum is a private venue. There is no right of free speech here.

Just a reminder-this forum is a private venue. There is no right of free speech here.

 

Thanks for the reminder. I guess every single poster to this forum is in violation, as we ALL have exercised an idea of free speech with every single comment posted here, including yours.

So either we all are wrong, or we all are right.

 

But what I will not accept is any commenter being singled out or targeted because his opinion of beliefs may not be the popular opinion.

 

There should be a general mutual respect among members of any group. Point blank.

[Rudynate]

Thanks for the reminder. I guess every single poster to this forum is in violation, as we ALL have exercised an idea of free speech with every single comment posted here, including yours.

So either we all are wrong, or we all are right.

 

But what I will not accept is any commenter being singled out or targeted because his opinion of beliefs may not be the popular opinion.

 

There should be a general mutual respect among members of any group. Point blank.

 

Thanks for the reminder. I guess every single poster to this forum is in violation, as we ALL have exercised an idea of free speech with every single comment posted here, including yours.

So either we all are wrong, or we all are right.

 

But what I will not accept is any commenter being singled out or targeted because his opinion of beliefs may not be the popular opinion.

 

There should be a general mutual respect among members of any group. Point blank.

 

 

The forum owner allows relative freedom of expression, but he can yank your chain any time he wants.

[MassageAdam]

First of all, I don’t whine, bitch or complain. Also, I’ve NEVER been a victim.

I clearly say what I feel, and I don’t disrespect others who have their opinions. What I don’t appreciate is bitchy assWHOLES who attempt at annoying me with snippy comments, insults and comments.

 

This is a open forum, where ALL opinions should be respected and regarded.

 

And before you ever address me again, I would suggest you hop off of those raw penises you regularly sit on, and review my posts and properly READ and COMPREHEND them, before posting uniformed, snippy, bitchy, insulting comments.

 

One thing I don’t do is disrespect others. Yet, here you are, using profanity, and “attempting”, to call me out on my “shit”.

 

Well let me call you out on your shit:

1.) you’re a blasphemous hypocrite. You post commentary on an escort’s barebacking choices, when in fact, that escort has the SAME ideologies on sex practices as you do!! Yet you judge him.

 

2.) Your initial post is flat out contradictory in every sense of the word. The fact that you prefer bareback actually had no relevance to the story until YOU decided to include it. Then had the audacity to confront me for making a comment on MY practices. Again, your lack of comprehension clearly was displayed, as others on the same forum addressed this.

 

3.) You should have listened to that “inner voice”, that told you “that’s his right” because it is my RIGHT, and I will always excercise it.

 

So for future reference, watch your tone, and be more respectful. Maybe you’ll learn something one day.

 

Warm Regards,

Your Sincerest Reality Check. ?

Dude, I wasn't duding him, I was asking if that was common practice. I didn't give a hit if he used them or not. I was pleasantly surprised he didn't. So there.

[+ Eric Hassan]

shame, guilt, and fear - that's why. i've been sexually active for a long fucking time and this whole switcharoo thing is not new at all. it's much easier to lie, attempt to manipluate, and refuse to communicate than it is to confront your own shit, so that's what people do.

[leanbtm]

I just want to remind folks but if gay men had kept using condoms in the 90's and the early 2000's HIV now would be a thing of the past. We all have lost friends in the 80's who didn't know their lives could have been saved just by using a condom.

 

As much as I appreciate (and use) PrEP I think it has become a new entitlement in a country with already too many of them.

 

 

HIV would not be "a thing of the past" had "gay men kept using condoms in the 90's and 2000's"

https://www.avert.org/global-hiv-and-aids-statistics

In many parts of the world HIV is transmitted primarily by heterosexual intercourse

https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-global-hivaids-epidemic/

[marylander1940]

HIV would not be "a thing of the past" had "gay men kept using condoms in the 90's and 2000's"

https://www.avert.org/global-hiv-and-aids-statistics

In many parts of the world HIV is transmitted primarily by heterosexual intercourse

https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-global-hivaids-epidemic/

 

I meant people had been fucking with a condom and I think you got it.

 

Btw considering 90% of folks are straight and they usually don't do anal I guess they should have played safe too, right?

[Guest davebk]

I hired a very well established, very reviewed escort who advertises safe only. I almost never, ever bottom, so I wasn't worried about it. He had condoms anyway and told me he thought he could easily top me. I told him to go ahead and give it a try. He eventually did, and I was impressed by how easily he slid in. When he pulled out, before he came, I looked and saw he had not used a condom. I looked around for a wrapper and didn't see one. I really believed he had covered.

 

Afterward, he apologized profusely as he could see I was pretty upset by it. When I told him that he had stated safe only, so I didn't think I needed to make him show me the condom before he went in, he said that he had said in the midst of the very verbal talk that he asked, "you want my raw cock?" I legitimately didn't hear that, but believe he probably did say it.

 

Anyway, in the end, he assured me he had just been tested, was negative, and does not produce pre-cum. It was before the time that Prep was so readily available, so I waited and got tested and came back negative. In retrospect, I should have gone to get Prep anyway, but didn't really know it was being used for post-exposure.

 

It was on me for not verifying and being clear, but I had foolishly trusted he was really safe only. I did specifically say, "your profile and website all clearly say safe only..." and he replied, "I have to say that for clients who are only looking for bareback, since I don't regularly do that."

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Honestly, if you're hiring escorts, you need to be on PrEP.

 

No, it's not 100%, but when used properly, it takes care of the big leagues. Most everything else you can get vaccinations or antibiotics for.

 

Post-exposure would be PEP https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/pep.html

 

Bottom line, a lot of well-known guys say they 'don't regularly do that,' but do. It's becoming a badly-kept secret.