“Scents”...

[bostonman]

My ex is a redhead and his pits smelled divineeeee. I love a good manscent.

 

Hot! But just to clarify, I wasn't only talking about pits or even sweat. This scent I've noticed is really all over, in the skin. And to me at least, it's heavenly.

[RealAvalon]

I'm not going to say who said what, just to avoid putting anyone on the spot. But, it's always interesting (in a rude, shameful way) when my non-chocolate friends attempt to arrange 3som or bring me along to another non-chocolate encounter request. You think when a person doesn't respond, or doesn't hit you up, that it's just that. But what if you found out behind the scenes, that it was really deeper than that?

 

One of my non-chocolate fuck buddies heard about a sex party (which I tend to avoid anyway unless at a paid event, due to the drugs and weirdo situations usually there). He shows me his pics, and then my pics which is the same as my avatar pic. Apparently, the guy told my friend he doesn't do my type because we have a "smell".

 

Now, it's nothing I haven't heard before. And I really don't get worked up over such trivial rejections. But it does show how toxic the gay mSm community can actually be, especially in small minded communities like Kansas City, which continues to prove how unsuitable this area is for personal and business growth. Went from the searing Florida frying pan, to the KC BBQ pit! Then I've been hearing people talk, like they have some kind of hang up about people from Florida (which is understandable). But talk about the pot calling the kettle "Black"! They aren't much different in mentality here either!

 

Anyhow, it's not even a bother to me. But is this a real thing, or people just too ignorant to realize maybe they just been hooking up with funky mother foes, and it doesn't apply to that whole ethnicity? That's why nowadays, even though I myself tend to wind up moreso with vanilla/neapolitan than chocolate (not that I don't do chocolate, but I'm more into Neapolitan or rainbow sherbet, so naturally that is going to not place a preference on any 1), I usually never make the first move or message first. I let those who are into chocolate come to me first. Too much of a chance to come across someone ignorant and intolerant. And though they may not come out and say it, its not worth my time to find out.

An Asian friend that runs a restaurant told me once that he thought white guys often smelled like meat, from the heavy meat diet

[RunnerGuy]

I am Indian and have been asked by masseurs if "I smell."

 

Yes, my culture does cook with a lot of spice, curries, onions, etc. But guess what? I am not eating curries or dal daily. I eat salad.

 

I'm fairly smell sensitive so I'm aware of what my culture "smells" like. I have an aunt whose house is filled with wonderful spices but the fragrance can be overpowering (she cooks with and stores spices).

 

I do think some white people have a distinctive scent, as some Latino and some black men do. Others find the musk of sweat appealing. I prefer the smell of Irish Spring more and request that guys always shower before a hook up. Or better, we just hook up in the shower.

 

I agree that I don't think Asians have a discernable scent. My buddy and I workout and he actually smells sweet (he is Asian).

[marylander1940]

I've met men of all ethnic and cultural backgrounds who smelled good and bad.

 

I like it clean, soap and deodorant/antiperspirant do it for me and for whoever my partner is. I don't like ripe, musky guys.

[bostonman]

For me, I generally like guys to smell clean (I'm an Ivory soap guy lol - I'm not so fond of the typical commercial scented soaps like Dial, etc - or of heavy use of cologne/aftershave etc). But ripe armpits drive me wonderfully insane.

[+ kov78]

Weird smelling men, smell weird to me, just saying.

[Guest]

In case anyone's interested, the study which compared East Asians, to Caucasians, to sub-Saharan Africans was published in:

Journal of Chemical Ecology

January 2016, Volume 42, Issue 1, pp 33–39

[Guest]

I will admit for myself I have ran into more Latino guys who do not like to bathe than any other ethnic group I have been with. Not.sure why but that can lead to body odor issues. Again I have never noticed a specific race based smell even in locker rooms

I do think some white people have a distinctive scent, as some Latino and some black men do. Others find the musk of sweat appealing. I prefer the smell of Irish Spring more and request that guys always shower before a hook up. Or better, we just hook up in the shower.

My domestic partner is Latino, and he's unfortunately a bit obsessive when it comes to showering. He usually does it multiple times a day--at least two, but often three or four times. I can't stand the taste of soap when I'm sucking or licking a man, especially not scented soaps like Irish Spring. Yuck. If he's had a sweaty workout at the gym, I'll ask him to just rinse off with water and not use soap. He can lather up after the sex. If he was just lifting weights, I'd just as soon get right down to it. The only bad taste is if there's a drop of urine still left in his penis. Then it's bad for a few seconds. He's going to come in from suntanning shortly. I'm going to ask if I can suck him some before he steps into the shower before we go to our luau (we're spending his Spring break in Hawaii).

[+ oldNbusted]

I'll admit I find this concept hard to accept. It seems like a rather convenient way to justify some bias. Since moving to a majority black city, the majority of my hookups have been with black guys (imagine that! ) and my extensive personal experience doesn't support this claim. I remain skeptical.

 

I did met a guy who wanted to go all natural like no showering and all.

 

There is a guy in an exercise class I take who does get in the shower but doesn't use any soap or deodorant, just the hot water. He's good for a few minutes right after the shower but when I run into him before class, whew, baked-on body odor! I'm not averse to this for a short period, and I would take just about any naturally generated odor over anything synthetic, I don't think I could handle this on an ongoing basis.

[Mocha]

Also, westerner’s consumption of milk and pork, also contributes to their body odor

 

You make a good point!

 

I haven’t drank milk at all this year, mainly because toward the end of last year, I was noticing problems every time after. No other dairy does, but after 31 years of milk drinking, my body decided to tell me no more!

 

Also the pork thing: if someone comes across a person who eats chitterlings (a stereotypical food people think certain people love to eat, NOT!), they are going to smell weird! I know for a fact because chitterlings have a weird smell, and people who eat them smell weird.

 

And places in the south (like Kansas City) where people likely eat BBQ and chitterlings often, can’t be blamed! Lol.

 

Then again, I just learned chitterlings are a worldwide food, but of course people in America always find ways to “stereotype” food choices. Just like fried chicken was originally an Irish staple, but now it’s used in conjunction with watermelons to “stereotype” it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitterlings

Edited March 12, 2019 by Mocha

[Mocha]

I will admit for myself I have ran into more Latino guys who do not like to bathe than any other ethnic group I have been with. Not.sure why but that can lead to body odor issues.

 

Hmmm...I’ve been with many a Latino, I can’t say that’s true for me. All mine have been freshly showered, if not...I like their smell regardless lol.

 

I do know FOR A FACT the ones who “tend” to take the least showers, tend to be middle eastern, specifically between Egypt and Pakistan. Not to mention being in a desert climate, it’s natural.

 

However, one of my friends is from Pakistan, and we occasionally are roommates. He literally takes a shower every 2-3 days only. At one point he was living at my apartment and I would tell him all the time: when you get home from work/biking/sex please take a shower!

 

He also used to not wear deodorant (though I believe he recently started to) and would always leave behind a man funk everywhere. Then his socks...it was like a 1, 2 PUNCH. One time I was eating, and it emerged right into my nose and down my throat. I immediately lost appetite. As a friend, I can’t be around someone and not speak up. Lately I’ve noticed he’s caught onto how offensive it is to the people around him, and hadn’t noticed it last time I stayed over.

 

 

This is an interesting topic. But yes, racial guilt issues aside (i.e. the awkwardness of admitting that it may sound racist to talk this way, even though I don't think that's so much the point), I do think there's truth in it all.

 

My thing, actually, is for redheads (or gingers as they are often called). I've had experiences with a few that have had this distinctive skin scent, which I find very very very sensual and alluring. A musky, almost rather "waxy" smell that I find really hot. I've had some guys tell me that it can definitely be a redhead trait, though I don't know that ALL redheads have it. Someone once also told me that he thought it was particularly so for men prone to freckled skin. I did once know a blond guy who had that same kind of scent when he got sweaty. (He was straight, and a student of mine, so way off limits. But I did take note of that scent lol.)

 

In terms of African-American men, I actually haven't been with all that many, but yes, I do sometimes notice a different and distinct scent there - and hey, nothing wrong with that. But I do have to say, being an armpit guy - I think I've only had one experience eating a black guy's pits - and I didn't enjoy it because the taste was actually rather bitter to me - something I hadn't experienced with other races of guys. I don't know if it was just him or if I would find that to be the case with other black men, though.

 

Well it might interest you to know: though I’m Black, I have freckles and am a redhead ? (though not albino, but more of just in complexion, and in the light) So not sure where I fall at in the contrast of experience. I think the 1 you tasted was a one off, besides we don’t know the scope behind one’s upkeep.

 

For fucks sake, you’re licking someone’s musky armpits, you think it’s suposed to taste like honey? Lol.

 

That’s why I don’t always buy into these “smell” things. People will hookup with a random guy off the street, with no regard for hygiene, do some nasty kinky shit, and then say those types stink. What do you expect??? If they are reckless with their sexual health, they damn sure ain’t going to be much better about their diet or basic hygiene ??‍♂️

 

That’s like a guy on twitter who said something about guys who call themselves pigs, but then get grossed out when another pig talks about farting cum in someone’s mouth lol. Well, when you go to the pig pen, ya might step in some shit.

Edited March 12, 2019 by Mocha

[RunnerGuy]

Clearly, one man's "yuck" is another man's "yum."

 

I don't have any sexual bias, but to me many black men do have a distinct scent. My last hookup was with a black man and he definitely had it. It didn't appeal to me so we stopped. There is no discrimination there. I didn't accuse him of being unhygienic. It just wasn't for me.

 

White men have a distinct scent, too. And Persian guys, etc. But what's worse is when they douse themselves in cologne or deodorant to obscure it and end up smelling like a fragrance counter.

 

There are real-life cases, too. A Jewish family was recently kicked off a flight for their odor.

[Mocha]

I will admit for myself I have ran into more Latino guys who do not like to bathe than any other ethnic group I have been with. Not.sure why but that can lead to body odor issues.

Clearly, one man's "yuck" is another man's "yum."

 

I don't have any sexual bias, but to me many black men do have a distinct scent. My last hookup was with a black man and he definitely had it. It didn't appeal to me so we stopped. There is no discrimination there. I didn't accuse him of being unhygienic. It just wasn't for me.

 

White men have a distinct scent, too. And Persian guys, etc. But what's worse is when they douse themselves in cologne or deodorant to obscure it and end up smelling like a fragrance counter.

 

There are real-life cases, too. A Jewish family was recently kicked off a flight for their odor.

 

Like I said above, you’re basing how someone smells based on a “hookup”. Where did you meet this particular black guy? At a club, app, bathhouse? People are basing a man’s smell off of some sleazy encounter. Perhaps get to know the guy before hooking up? How do you know he didn’t just fuck someone, lick someone else’s ass, or whatever else before you and that’s why he smelled? I mean let’s be real: I’ve come across many situations where guys already had sex moments before meeting me.

 

You can’t expect most people who are “hooking up” to be any cleaner than expecting them to be “d/d free and on prep”.

[+ tassojunior]

Does the consumption of certain foods and spices produce a certain smell of sweat? I keep seeing this explanation but I've not noticed it. I have noticed certain people who seem to rarely bathe.

[Monarchy79]

I am Indian and have been asked by masseurs if "I smell."

 

Yes, my culture does cook with a lot of spice, curries, onions, etc. But guess what? I am not eating curries or dal daily. I eat salad.

 

I'm fairly smell sensitive so I'm aware of what my culture "smells" like. I have an aunt whose house is filled with wonderful spices but the fragrance can

Hmmm...I’ve been with many a Latino, I can’t say that’s true for me. All mine have been freshly showered, if not...I like their smell regardless lol.

 

I do know FOR A FACT the ones who “tend” to take the least showers, tend to be middle eastern, specifically between Egypt and Pakistan. Not to mention being in a desert climate, it’s natural.

 

However, one of my friends is from Pakistan, and we occasionally are roommates. He literally takes a shower every 2-3 days only. At one point he was living at my apartment and I would tell him all the time: when you get home from work/biking/sex please take a shower!

 

He also used to not wear deodorant (though I believe he recently started to) and would always leave behind a man funk everywhere. Then his socks...it was like a 1, 2 PUNCH. One time I was eating, and it emerged right into my nose and down my throat. I immediately lost appetite. As a friend, I can’t be around someone and not speak up. Lately I’ve noticed he’s caught onto how offensive it is to the people around him, and hadn’t noticed it last time I stayed over.

 

 

 

 

Well it might interest you to know: though I’m Black, I have freckles and am a redhead ? (though not albino, but more of just in complexion, and in the light) So not sure where I fall at in the contrast of experience. I think the 1 you tasted was a one off, besides we don’t know the scope behind one’s upkeep.

 

For fucks sake, you’re licking someone’s musky armpits, you think it’s suposed to taste like honey? Lol.

 

That’s why I don’t always buy into these “smell” things. People will hookup with a random guy off the street, with no regard for hygiene, do some nasty kinky shit, and then say those types stink. What do you expect??? If they are reckless with their sexual health, they damn sure ain’t going to be much better about their diet or basic hygiene ??‍♂️

 

That’s like a guy on twitter who said something about guys who call themselves pigs, but then get grossed out when another pig talks about farting cum in someone’s mouth lol. Well, when you go to the pig pen, ya might step in some shit.

 

 

HOLD UP:

 

Did you just say that your friend showers every 2 to 3 days?

 

This is part of the point I want to make. Hygiene habits okay a huge factor in how people are drawing their conclusions here.

 

In this case, this man doesn’t smell bad because of his ethnicity. He smells bad because he doesn’t bathe. Anyone, regardless of their ethnic background will smell bad if they don’t bathe for DAYS.

[+ Pensant]

With guys in their early 20’s, I’ve occasionally been turned on if they don’t shower for a few days. I find it intoxicating. They really don’t have BO, just a slight sweatiness. I guess they have great pheromones!

 

If a guy shows up with any perfume, however, I immediately lose any interest. I find colognes repellent and I’m glad younger guys rarely use it.

[hypothetically]

This thread will eventually go south. I just knowwwww it, lol.

[Ajac]

What an interesting topic I have been with hispanic asian white and a few blacks and have to say I never noticed any difference in smell. I was set up with a girl who smelled like salami once. That is a whole other story. I know if you eat copious amounts of garlic it will be apparent so I guess if there are foods specific culturally to a race that could be a factor. I would like to do a test and have Peter Lee, Shemar Moore, Ricky Martin, and Chris Hemsworth all shower then let me sniff every inch of them. Purely for scientific reasons mind you.

[liubit]

With guys in their early 20’s, I’ve occasionally been turned on if they don’t shower for a few days. I find it intoxicating. They really don’t have BO, just a slight sweatiness. I guess they have great pheromones!

Oh, yes, @Pensant, yes! The smell of a sweaty twenty-something boy is better than Viagra for my cock. I always ask them not to shower and certainly not to wear deodorant before our meeting: licking their salty skin and their delicious pits is lustful.

[RunnerGuy]

Like I said above, you’re basing how someone smells based on a “hookup”. Where did you meet this particular black guy? At a club, app, bathhouse? People are basing a man’s smell off of some sleazy encounter. Perhaps get to know the guy before hooking up? How do you know he didn’t just fuck someone, lick someone else’s ass, or whatever else before you and that’s why he smelled? I mean let’s be real: I’ve come across many situations where guys already had sex moments before meeting me.

 

You can’t expect most people who are “hooking up” to be any cleaner than expecting them to be “d/d free and on prep”.

 

Way to pass judgment.

 

We met on an app, I invited him over to my (non-smelly) place. We chatted, took a shower, and took things to bed.

 

Nothing "sleazy" (relatively speaking) or "unclean" about it, so don't twist my words to fit your narrative.

[Mocha]

Way to pass judgment.

 

We met on an app, I invited him over to my (non-smelly) place. We chatted, took a shower, and took things to bed.

 

Nothing "sleazy" (relatively speaking) or "unclean" about it, so don't twist my words to fit your narrative.

 

You’re absolutely right I’m passing judgement. You said you hooked up with a particular ethnic guy and his smell was weird, therefore you stopped. You didn’t follow up to say, “but not all those type of guys I’ve met have smelled that way”. You concluded off of 1 encounter, that a particular person’s smell was not to your liking.

 

I’m not twisting words or fitting in a narrative. You just said it. You said he had a distinct smell, and you stopped because of it. It doesn’t matter if it was a good or bad/natural or synthetic smell. You pretty much reiterated the notion that this guy who was a certain ethnic group, smells bad and therefore is unworthy of a sexual encounter. Despite everything else he could have had going for himself, you dismissed him based on a smell.

 

What I’m telling you is, it’s irrelevant to ethnicity and everything to do with basis of your meeting. You met him on a sleazy app (because let’s face it, if you weren’t hiring a professional, and you had sex on the first meet, y’all obviously weren’t meeting to discuss financial reports), and sounds like he didn’t shower prior to coming over. Just because y’all “chatted” doesn’t make it any less of a hookup/1 night stand. What was he doing before coming over? Obviously not showering since he had to do that there. You wouldn’t know because the basis of the meet wasn’t anything more than a shower and a hookup.

 

Therefore, you got what you wanted. You wanted to try someone new, but you settled for less. I bet that’s the reason why many people make these claims. People want to taste the rainbow, but they go for lucky charms cereal instead of real gold.

[Mocha]

This thread will eventually go south. I just knowwwww it, lol.

 

Btw, I wasn’t disliking your post...but rather just going “womp, womp, womp...”

 

Thing is, it doesn’t have to go south. I think people can really learn something new here. We have to address these things, else people are going to continue carrying these mythical stereotypes and preconceived notions. And they don’t help, they just continue creating divisions in the MSM community.

 

HOLD UP:

 

Did you just say that your friend showers every 2 to 3 days?

 

This is part of the point I want to make. Hygiene habits okay a huge factor in how people are drawing their conclusions here.

 

In this case, this man doesn’t smell bad because of his ethnicity. He smells bad because he doesn’t bathe. Anyone, regardless of their ethnic background will smell bad if they don’t bathe for DAYS.

 

My point EXACTLY. And that’s the point I’m making to @RunnerGuy. He seems to justifiable believe based on an encounter, that a certain ethnic group now “smells”. What I’m telling him is it has nothing to do with that. It’s offensive when someone thinks a certain ethnic group “stinks”. Regardless of how they describe it. I don’t care if they say all of a type smells like Roses, but Roses stink. Nobody naturally smells like Roses. Only Victoria’s Secret and Bath and Body Works can make you smell like Roses.

 

Likewise, no one naturally “stinks” until they die. But if you don’t floss, properly wash, brush your teeth, or eat foods that leach thru, you will stink.

 

Now, the EXCEPTION: if someone has an illness, dealing with homelessness, or has been outdoors in summer heat, they’re going to smell. It would be unfair to judge anyone based on those circumstances. I used to hate the smell that would come on my skin after spending a few MOMENTS outside in Florida in the summer. And then my car’s a/c went out, I was worried all my clients would think I stink.

Edited March 14, 2019 by Mocha

[RunnerGuy]

You’re absolutely right I’m passing judgement. You said you hooked up with a particular ethnic guy and his smell was weird, therefore you stopped. You didn’t follow up to say, “but not all those type of guys I’ve met have smelled that way”. You concluded off of 1 encounter, that a particular person’s smell was not to your liking.

 

I’m not twisting words or fitting in a narrative. You just said it. You said he had a distinct smell, and you stopped because of it. It doesn’t matter if it was a good or bad/natural or synthetic smell. You pretty much reiterated the notion that this guy who was a certain ethnic group, smells bad and therefore is unworthy of a sexual encounter. Despite everything else he could have had going for himself, you dismissed him based on a smell.

 

What I’m telling you is, it’s irrelevant to ethnicity and everything to do with basis of your meeting. You met him on a sleazy app (because let’s face it, if you weren’t hiring a professional, and you had sex on the first meet, y’all obviously weren’t meeting to discuss financial reports), and sounds like he didn’t shower prior to coming over. Just because y’all “chatted” doesn’t make it any less of a hookup/1 night stand. What was he doing before coming over? Obviously not showering since he had to do that there. You wouldn’t know because the basis of the meet wasn’t anything more than a shower and a hookup.

 

Therefore, you got what you wanted. You wanted to try someone new, but you settled for less. I bet that’s the reason why many people make these claims. People want to taste the rainbow, but they go for lucky charms cereal instead of real gold.

 

You CLEARLY read that post in isolation.

 

First, as a fellow "brown" guy, I am very sensitive to others having predetermined beliefs about everything from my diet to my scent.

 

Second, I have never said any race "smells." In fact, in all of my posts, I specifically used the word "scent" because I know the word "smell" can be offensive. Go ahead, look back.

 

Third, you assume that this was the first black man I have been sexual with. That is not the case. I have had relations with black men that have no scent, ones that have a pleasant scent, and ones who do not have a pleasant scent. Just like any other race.

 

Just because I use my senses doesn't mean I'm racist. For example, if a man -- any man -- has visible cuts on his genitals, I do not proceed. If there is fecal matter visually or olfactory present, I do not proceed. It doesn't matter if my partner is white, black, brown, yellow, green, or purple.

 

For someone who claims to "not get worked up" about such things, you sure have gotten really worked up.

 

I've learned this week there's a lot of people who get easily triggered on this board, despite their claims that they don't.

 

Oh, btw. The slut shaming for me using a "sleazy app" is ironic from someone who gets invited to threesomes. I'm sure you know all the parties involved very well.

[RunnerGuy]

This thread will eventually go south. I just knowwwww it, lol.

 

It's obvious that the original poster started this thread to bait people into sharing their own personal experiences and then claim racism where there is none.

 

Everyone's senses are individual. Scents that appeal to one person may not appeal to another. And how one's nose/brain processes a scent differs from person to person. Just how some people saw that dress and gold and others as blue. No one is right or wrong.

 

There is no "lesson" to be learned here -- no one can govern how another person feels ... or smells.

 

And just FYI, I always ask everyone who comes over to shower with me because I have a big stall shower and find the foreplay a turn-on. Or are you also now going to dictate what should turn me on and off? Ridiculous.

[hypothetically]

It's obvious that the original poster started this thread to bait people into sharing their own personal experiences and then claim racism where there is none.

 

Agree.