Red flags? Open to escorts and things escorts told you...

[marylander1940]

You’ve completely diverted and gone on some tangent/story none of us are aware of. You also didn’t quite catch the correlation between the sensitive topic of HIV and addiction. Seems you started a subliminal topic about Pnp instead of actually sharing the story you just spit out while feeling some type of way that i called you out on being insensitive.

 

A person struggling with addiction SHOULD reach out to friends and family but often times DON’T out of fear, because of stigmatizing (which you’ve just done).

 

Also, my ad can be found in the signature on my profile and I’ve had no trouble being hired via the forum. You’re triggered because of a conversation that transpired between you and I. (Also, completely unrelated to you stigmatizing).

 

You can find me here since you decided not to look at my profile. You’re welcome.

http://Http://www.Rentmen.eu/AndreNYC

 

I wasn't aware you added your escort persona to your profile as I suggested you before! I'm sure it will bring you some business from here. There must be a way for you to put it on all your posts as a signature just like I have one.

 

I'm a Leo, I give good advice

 

if I was an escort I would stay away from guys who do PNP, just my opinion.

[mike carey]

You can find me here since you decided not to look at my profile. You’re welcome.

http://Http://www.Rentmen.eu/AndreNYC

Thanks for posting the link. I don't think I had tried to look at your profile here before. I've certainly enjoyed reading your posts here. I don't know if it's just me, but when I tried to check your profile here there was an error message to the effect that you restricted access to it. Your choice of course.

[hypothetically]

Thanks for posting the link. I don't think I had tried to look at your profile here before. I've certainly enjoyed reading your posts here. I don't know if it's just me, but when I tried to check your profile here there was an error message to the effect that you restricted access to it. Your choice of course.

 

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was not aware. I will add my link to my signature

[marylander1940]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I was not aware. I will add my link to my signature

 

Are you a little forgetful? I told you this when you joined and you said you had enough clients already.

[marylander1940]

Back to the subject of red flags:

 

Impatient clients who texted his ass off while asking demands of E.T.A. that can't be achieved by a normal person.

[hypothetically]

Are you a little forgetful? I told you this when you joined and you said you had enough clients already.

 

No sweetie. But I joined over a year ago, and at the time I had no interest in garnering business via the forum, a decision I was rightfully entitled to make. Even now, that is not my primary focus here, but rather to have casual exchange among forum members. You’ve beaten a dead horse with a stick, I’ve provided my link and you’re still sour. But thank you for the gentle reminder ?

[marylander1940]

No sweetie. But I joined over a year ago, and at the time I had no interest in garnering business via the forum, a decision I was rightfully entitled to make. Even now, that is not my primary focus here, but rather to have casual exchange among forum members. You’ve beaten a dead horse with a stick, I’ve provided my link and you’re still sour. But thank you for the gentle reminder ?

 

I'm sure you'll get good business from here! Enjoy and don't get things too personal

[+ JEC]

I'm not really clean down there (after agreeing to sleep on the bottom bunk) :eek:

[+ quoththeraven]

'Straight'. 'Bisexual'. Or 'welcomes women and hetero couples'. I know it shouldn't turn me off, but it DOES.

That's not a red flag. That's a preference.

[+ quoththeraven]

To me, PNP in a profile indicates an escort who is OK with providing intimate services to people they haven't met before while under the influence of what can be powerful, mind-altering and medically dangerous drugs and clients who are OK with receiving them, with provision of the drugs possibly being part of the transaction. That's a lot of potentially misplaced trust and a lot that could potentially go wrong.

 

Irrespective of the little frictions of personality around here, I don't understand how this can plausibly be framed as helping someone, unless one's definition of "helping someone" is like that of the politically-connected guy in West Hollywood in whose home the police keep finding much younger men dead from overdoses of drugs he reportedly injected them with.

[BaronArtz]

That's not a red flag. That's a preference.

 

You are wrong - as usual. Read the original question. It is a red flag to ME. As a client, that's all that matters.

[marylander1940]

To me, PNP in a profile indicates an escort who is OK with providing intimate services to people they haven't met before while under the influence of what can be powerful, mind-altering and medically dangerous drugs and clients who are OK with receiving them, with provision of the drugs possibly being part of the transaction. That's a lot of potentially misplaced trust and a lot that could potentially go wrong.

 

Sounds like the perfect sting operation. I know escort who would constantly get calls from Virginia from a businessman visiting in need for "party favors" looking to pay thousands to get them. Not good!

 

Irrespective of the little frictions of personality around here, I don't understand how this can plausibly be framed as helping someone, unless one's definition of "helping someone" is like that of the politically-connected guy in West Hollywood in whose home the police keep finding much younger men dead from overdoses of drugs he reportedly injected them with.

 

Exactly I assume helping someone who does PNP is talking him out of it.

[+ quoththeraven]

You are wrong - as usual. Read the original question. It is a red flag to ME. As a client, that's all that matters.

"Red flag" usually means an indication of danger or a threat to personal security or privacy, not displeasure or dislike.

[+ FreshFluff]

"Red flag" usually means an indication of danger or a threat to personal security or privacy, not displeasure or dislike.

 

A red flag could also indicate a risk of poor service.

[Mo Mason]

If you're hiring sex workers on a regular basis, you're guaranteed to have hired someone who wasn't making ends meet with their other/previous job. If you want escorts to be savvy marketers and not mention their situation, well, that's fair. I can understand that focusing on the financial transaction can sour the vibe. But let's not kid ourselves, generous clients is exactly what every escort is looking for-what makes a quality escort quality is simply that they genuinely appreciate the kindness and generosity of clients and offer the same in turn.

Yes, I guess it's the wording. I know many escorts do what they do because they're struggling to pay bills, but I would rather not read about it in their profiles. It would be like me putting in my client profile, "I hire because I'm ugly and desperate." No need for that... it goes without saying. lol

[+ quoththeraven]

A red flag could also indicate a risk of poor service.

We could have another discussion whether it makes sense to assume poor service from someone who has sex with women, but it's not necessary. @BaronArtz's exact words were "I know it shouldn't turn me off, but it DOES," meaning he finds partners who have sex with women a turnoff. That's completely his prerogative, but that's not a service concern.

[+ FreshFluff]

We could have another discussion whether it makes sense to assume poor service from someone who has sex with women, but it's not necessary. @BaronArtz's exact words were "I know it shouldn't turn me off, but it DOES," meaning he finds partners who have sex with women a turnoff. That's completely his prerogative, but that's not a service concern.

 

I can’t speak for him, but It’s possible that he’s turned off by straight/bi guys after experiencing poor service from/experiences with this group. That doesn’t mean all or even most str8/bi escorts would provide him with poor service. But I can’t blame people for generalizing off past experience when they’re risking $300+.

[BaronArtz]

And with all of that, QTR-dearest is on my permanent 'ignore' list. Thank you, QTR. I wish you well.

[+ FreshFluff]

I mostly read the Lounge, but I’ve found QTR’s posts helpful. We differ on some things though. I tend to be more sympathetic to people’s tendency to stick with what works for them, even if that means excluding groups of people. There are many gay men who seek out str8 escorts, so I’m sure they’re not lacking for business.

 

One question for @BaronArtz though: You’ve posted on muscle worship threads in the past. I don’t know if you’re still into that, but I thought most of the worship escorts were straight.

[marylander1940]

Back to subject:

 

"This is my first time hiring" and "I want to hire someone for a friend's birthday" are phrases that would raise the eyebrows of many escorts. I'm not saying folks don't hire for the first time nor do it for friend's birthday but whoever does this activity for a few months knows texts like that are not likely to turn into money.

[+ WilliamM]

Back to subject:

 

"This is my first time hiring" and "I want to hire someone for a friend's birthday" are phrases that would raise the eyebrows of many escorts. I'm not saying folks don't hire for the first time nor do it for friend's birthday but whoever does this activity for a few months knows texts like that are not likely to turn into money.

 

Over the years, several escorts have talked to me in detail about their side of the business, especially one who was just starting out on his own.

 

Just because something may be a red flag, they need to earn money. And over time, they sometimes continue to see clients whom they personality dislike a lot. Usually the dislike is because the client has very little respect for the escort as a person.

[marylander1940]

Over the years, several escorts have talked to me in detail about their side of the business, especially one who was just starting out on his own.

 

Just because something may be a red flag, they need to earn money. And over time, they sometimes continue to see clients whom they personality dislike a lot. Usually the dislike is because the client has very little respect for the escort as a person.

 

Or they'll go to a hotel at 2:00 AM to find a closed door, nobody answering and radio silence on the phone right after they texted the guy "I'm on my way". It happened to an escort who posts on here often and he started a thread about it.

 

I won't mention him.

[+ WilliamM]

Or excellent and experienced guys accept gifts of expensive clothes without thinking about giving far too much personal information.

[marylander1940]

I believe the poster your referring to is haha lol . Im always in the mindset that I have to meet every client who sees me bc If I say I can't or ask for a rain check they will just ask someone else. It was a stupid decision and I advise no escort to meet a new client past midnight but I've been homeless and down to my last dollars prior to escorting and early on in my escorting career so I still take on "risky" clients bc I'm scared to be in that situation again, even though I usually have 6 months to a year of savings for rent and rainy days currently so i reality I really didnt have to take the client, it was stupid of me. People think escorting is easy but we do have to deal with rude clients and behavior on a regular basis, thats why I took my rentmen ad down for a entire year last year, and am in a mini hiatus currently and just sticking to regulars. Regulars in escorting are like the holy grail, you don't have to deal with the red flags, flaky and fake clients and skip all the bs and just have a good time with your job

 

Yes, you have the right policy and as you can tell by reading who I was quoting and what I wrote on that other thread and this one I agree with you.

Edited March 11, 2019 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

Red flag:

 

Waking up and read a text sent by a potential client at 4:00 AM saying: hey you free now?”.

 

I would save the number and be grateful my phone was off while sleeping.