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That’s about as annoying when clients text me, hey Jerrod/Jerod! And I be like, my name is JARROD. I’m not changing my escort name any further, especially now that calling cards 🎴 have been distributed nationwide 😂. But I’ve also eased up and recognize many clients just aren’t the best at text spelling. Even grammar goes out the window. It’s almost a turn on how even the most affluent guys will get down to their most primal mating dialect, when reaching out for an encounter. When it comes down to cold Turkey no responses, I try to give the benefit of doubt. Even seemingly stupid questions may just be someone new or inexperienced. But my usual cut off is, “do you party?” Or anything having to do with drug use or purchasing drugs for them. Which leads me to a new thread…

Reminds me of Toni Braxton at 2:10 😂 🎶 You say right now that you're not what I'm looking forAnd what you really need is time to growYou're promising that one day you may come aroundAnd I'm supposed to let that go 🎶

Wait, wait, wait Stop, stop, stop. I appreciate you tagging me so I can have the opportunity to address. But as has already been clarified by another provider here, that's definitely not what I do. The biggest difference being: I'm not picking out clients who haven't even actually contacted me, and then slagging them off. I come across many ads on sites like Adam4Adam, Grindr and etcetera that may contain offensive or distasteful references towards sex workers. I've even come across adam4adam clients who will say in their ad, "I'm not generous, get a job", but then want to contact me and get an appointment. I'll tell them straight up, I appreciate your interest, but your ad was a bit offensive and it doesn't sound like I'm the type of service you're looking for. But that's different than me posting about someone who approached me first, versus a random posting on the internet, that probably could have been written by someone other than the escort himself. As has been said many times, and I've witnessed myself: there are fake profiles, and to hastily assume that the ad listed is even the actual person in question, and slag him off: is unnecessary energy extended.

Well, though I don't have intentions on getting to NYC and Boston, I've started making estimated travels for Buffalo to start. Just first getting feelers before I make the round. I am trying to get out there this month, preferably before the seasons get to changing!

Good points you made, definitely. It is a good strategy to reach out to clients letting them know I'm coming, which I usually always do. Or I'll follow up with previous hits just to remind them. It doesn't always work though, schedule conflicts and general stuff. I have to say: my last tour, despite this post was very much a success, I was quite booked except the weekend of labor day, which was almost expected, which is why I took the weekend off to connect at pool parties and group outings. I had an interesting conversation with a guy over the weekend, who was a friend of a client who I'm friends with. Though he's an attractive Black guy in who just turned 50, he was like, "I never go out to restaraunts alone". When he travels, he'll always order to go or uber eats. We were having a mini debate as to why it's no big deal, even if you are by yourself. But at the end of the day, it's stuff like that which adds to the anxiety/boredom part of travel. Escort travel in itself offers lots of 1 on 1 interaction, but not much in the way of social interaction throughout the day. You can make $1,000 in a day, but still have no one to go out to happy hour or brunch with the next day, because with visiting a city, you don't know anyone where you can quickly connect with. Money aside, there's still the part and parcels that come along with it. I am actually an advocate of going out to eat by myself IF I don't have others to go with. Just last week, I must have went out to eat by myself 3 or 4 times, but by the end of the week, I was at a table of 11. I honestly felt no difference in the experience or how the food tasted. Sometimes I don't even understand how going out to eat has become something to ONLY do with family, friends or dates anyway. Therefore, why do I mind the general population's consensus that if you're out eating/traveling alone, you're a looser or loner, and should be felt bad for?

Sounds fun! It’s been awhile since I’ve done Pittsburgh and DC, NYC I’ve not done at all and Boston it’s been awhile too. I’ll have to assess the markets and see

Oddly enough, it’s not so much that it feels like work…but the things surrounding it certainly takes the fun out of it. Just dealing with hotels (recently booked a hotel for 2 days, only to find out there was no breakfast, and the “1 bedroom suite” only had 1 TV with very limited channels, which was only viewable while sitting on the bed 🤦🏽‍♂️ And then having to figure out restaurants and not always having company when going. Add to that, the opportunity to meet new guys outside is clients is abundant and even easy, but at the end of the day, you can only invest in that person so much considering you may be gone the next day or 2, and you might catch each other if both available. It’s just a lot. Like touring is fun and the money can def be worth it, but it’s just too much work. Not even talking about clients. Because I can literally go from my bed, to my car, to a client’s or hotel bed after traveling for 8 hours. That’s easy. But what’s hard is, what am I going to do for those remaining 16 hours 🤷🏾‍♂️

I do want to get to the northeast! My friends went to Pittsburgh earlier this month, and it woulda been a good way to tour over to buffalo. But alas, I didn't receive a memo. Maybe September will be the month...I need to do my annual D.C. trip as well. Didn't make it last year.

I’m hoping I can say this in a way that doesn’t sound like I’m complaining, because I’m not. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy traveling and going on “tour” complete with travel dates. It’s also a great way to expand and meet new clients. I’m actually on tour this week as I speak lol. Today makes a week that I’ve been “on the road” However, I’ve been doing the travel circuit for years. Some cities I’ve gone to over and over. I’m almost getting to a point where I’m losing the appeal of going to travel to cities, especially if I don’t have a specific friend, overnight booking or work project to tend to. It used to be, I’d have an idea to just go to a city, just name a City and go: But lately, I find the preparation and planning part induces a hint of anxiety, and if things seem like they aren’t going to go right, I’ll postpone or cancel it. Not to mention, the biggest factor is ensuring people will show for their appointments, and as been said over and over, half the time these guys don’t show up. And it’s because of stuff like that, even if I may want to continue the tour and head to another city, by the time I’ve had so many flakes, my spirits are down and I just want to go home and do nothing for a couple of days lol. That said, I don’t know if it’s really possible to not travel in this biz, unless you in a high traffic market or just doing it seldom on the side. Like in Kansas City, the biz is there but it’s hardly sustainable week after week. It’ll be busy 1 week, then slow for 2 or 3 weeks. And like I said in another thread, they hardly ever book anything with sufficient notice there. After dealing with that shit for few weeks, I be more eager to travel again than families after a stay at home order 😄

lol I been discussing this on Facebook while I’m in Phoenix: A dry 100 degrees in Phoenix/Palm Springs is not the same as a humid 90 degrees in Miami or Orlando. Or even Kansas City for that matter lol. I seen trees from Florida being sold at Home Depot lol. It’s hot, but I notice I don’t sweat as much. And in the shade, the breeze is nice. However 110 degrees is crazy hot. And the pavement at night, I noticed it would be at 105+ degrees even at 10 p.m. at night. Though not sure it would factor in much on whether I’d accept a lifestyle

First of all, I never said that I didn't enjoy the job. Let's be clear. I was just asking a general opinion and consensus. Don't get it confused, please. That said, I can care less about what "other" escorts do or don't complain about. That has nothing to do with me. But since you're so curious, I'll tell you one thing: a client of mine cancelled on a fairly popular escort/porn guy who was in town last week, when I reached out and let him know I'm available. When I asked my client how did he feel about that, he said he was very angry and was asking for his entire donation for the 2 hours, to be paid up. My client wasn't trying to do that. However, I suggested to my client that if there's a cancel fee, to do so. So even though the escort was technically competing for my client, I still suggested he do the right thing by offering him something. And I'm having a great time enjoying the biz. Last Friday on a trip, I met 4 clients in one day, all were booked a day prior, even though one did reach me the day of...which I was able to take because it wasn't "can you be here in 15 minutes" type of request....which I don't normally get anyway. But when I wrote this post, I think I was going thru a bit of frustrating moment dealing with my stubborn local market prospects.

I switched to justfor.fans awhile ago. Only fans seemed a bit dated and limited

What area of the Midwest did you hail from? I've been in Kansas city all summer and the summer is extreme oppressive too. Next few days will be 95+ with 100+ heat indexes. I like that I can grow palm trees and other tropicals like in Miami...but the growing season ends in about a month or 2, then the first frost turns everything Brown. Atlanta seems to stay mostly mild throughout the year, but they can get some wicked ice storms. Odd considering having lived in Denver and been to Minnesota...Atlanta seems so far south lol.

No I'm not judging or attacking him. I'm just saying it was judgmental and inconsiderate of him to tell me he wants to go on a date, we had plans on Saturday, which he cancelled because he claims he was tired and in a bad mood from work, but somehow that switched over to a question about what i do for work (in which I kept my whole evening open for, and could have accepted other plans considering it was also pride weekend in town). Prior to this, we met twice...he was sucking my dick within 20 minutes (which technically makes him a sex worker too, minus the money). The 2nd time was similar and he offered to go on a dinner and movie date when he got back from vacation, However, we agreed to reschedule for the next day Sunday...and he didn't even bother to cancel, I reached out to him asking if we were still good and he completely blows me off. So I pretty much missed out on an invite to a party Saturday afternoon, because I told myself I didn't want to attend both because that would have meant me having to commute twice that day across town. I shoulda just went. He wasted my time. It was a very bitch and dick move on his part. But I'm really just past getting upset with men who aren't worth the energy. I even had a good talk with my regular client buddy the day after (which made up for the loss), and was giving him a lecture about how he cancelled on another provider to see me. I told him I was grateful that he wanted to spend more time with me instead, but I wouldn't want someone doing it to me, you shouldn't do it to the other person. And the escort is a popular guy and was asking my client for the full fee. I told him, I can't tell how to spend your money, but give him 50-100 for his inconvenience at-least.

What made it annoying too was, he tried to come off so polite in the process. I told him that façade was very transparent. Especially considering he didn’t have any problem with me prior to me telling him that. What he did for work was pretty obvious, because it was a work from home due to COVID gig. But he was trying to find an exit strategy from his job, so it’s not like he was in the perfect position himself. If I would have guessed he’d of been such a dick about it, I would have taken on some other plans over the weekend, instead of not attending one of the pride parties that was going on in town. But because I needed to get things done, I couldn’t do the date and the party over the weekend. I ended up not doing either. I have zero tolerance for someone who’s not even a client, to waste my time. I definitely won’t be dealing with him again. That’s why I wish there was reviews for guys on these hookup apps. It’s easy to give a one sided story about his ex who was an escort, but I wonder what the supposed ex escort has to say about him! It's just like my "quasi" ex boyfriend who started as a client. Our thing ended badly, but it didn't end badly because I was an escort or he once seen me as a client. It ended badly because he was a bitch and decided to do some fucked up shit behind my back one day.

Short of just avoiding getting close to people who are not in the biz, what’s generally a useful strategy? Just cut ties with someone yesterday who I’d met with a couple of times (though it was off an app and started sexual anyway). I didn’t reveal what I do right away, as the question didn’t come up. But then just out of nowhere the other day he inquiries about what I do for work (And I also am going to be figuring out more ways to shut people down when they ask this question, because I feel when some ask, it feels they’re doing so with some sort of suspicion…and I don’t like that). After I told him, he did a complete 180 on me…saying we should just be friends, canceling plans and then telling me he dated an escort previously and it ended badly. As if that experience speaks for all who are in the industry. It’s stuff like that which makes me not be able to trust people with my business. I try to do things the right way and be open and honest, but it seems like every time, it backfires. I almost just have to lie and deny and have some sort of formula like: if I haven’t known them for at least 4 dates/meets, don’t even bother telling them. Why do I need somebody who I’ve only met once or twice, judging and criticizing me when they haven’t even fucking proven that they’re invested either? So I’m at a crossroads: I can either just not tell anybody else I meet anymore, or I can resolve to only deal with guys in the industry…but that presents its own share of challenges too, because I feel many guys in the biz go thru periods where all they care about is the next client or gig, and less about hanging out and making friends.

Yeah, A4A has gone thru some layout changes over the years. Fortunently they’ve kept their site somewhat consistent in look. Some sites like gay.com and manhunt kind of faded after their site changes. But they also were replaced by sites like Adam and then the apps. Not to mention, the A4A app has come out but I usually use the mobile site…because if you use the app, you might also not be able to see nude pics.

Yeah it’s really crazy. I’ve lost some regulars or previously met clients because of things like that. They’ll talk about wanting a session on a particular day, then go ghost. It’s gotten to where I’ve almost become unfazed about it. In fact, I even went ahead and got a separate number for the initial bookings because I almost need to consolidate the level of initial inquiries I get. And I won’t carry it around at much as my dedicated client phone, that way I’m not distracted by people who don’t follow up as much. I know one line is for the maybes and the other is for those who are actually booking in. Now I’ve just got to get a secretary, supervisor, and HR department 😂

I probably make this post every couple years. But guess it’s time again. The infamous A4A. Once known for allowing escort and hookup ads in the same place (unlike many apps today). Now it’s just masseur and miscellaneous that’s able to be posted. But once again, I find myself considering to stop advertising on there, I’m looking at my number of bookings from there city by city, and it’s looking not great. I still get clients from it, but it’s at such a reduced volume . Despite it being $30 a month to advertise, it’s still $30 and a lot of logging in to get placement. They also did something with their City/search lookup that requires users to go by county. Sounds very governmental and limiting. Many users are using the A4A app and seem to not be able to see my nude pics for some reason. So I don’t know. The site has potential, but I’m considering letting it go. Plus I always have a full inbox, but very few are booking anything. I even have my number in 2 places on my ad. People still message me on there instead of texting me to book. I usually don’t have time to stay glued to it all the time. Any others using?

I always wonder how that would work though. Or if it would work. I mean, I’m sure it does but idk. I’ve been “suggested” the offer to become a flight attendant and even met friends and clients who are in that business. But I’d imagine it hard to really be an escort and a flight attendant at the same time. In some ways I do feel like a flight attendant already, especially going on tour city to city lol. For example: I met a guy one year who was flight attendant. He flew into Phoenix at 4 p.m. and was out by 5:30 a.m. (I’m also not at all privy to moving and shaking at insane hours of the morning…it makes me nervous and irritable for some reason). I’m thinking to myself, what if I was an escort doing that? With the way clients contact us so unpredictable (or many can only meet between a narrow window of time during the daytime, God forbid a flight gets delayed) and without much notice, I can’t even see how the 2 would really interchange with each other. Meanwhile I was in Phoenix for like a week or 2 to give people a chance to recognize my ad and book me. I’d imagine with flight attendants you’d get the stray last minute client here and there, or the occasional advanced booking if you know there schedule or visit regularly.

So, there was once a site called Men4Rentnow.com that did a similar feature. Clients would post (albeit it was kind of a Craigslisty kind of way with very limited lines that wasn’t helpful) what they wanted and the rate they were willing to pay…and we could browse those listings and reach out to them. Its not a “bad” idea, but how effective it is would depend on how specific the search is. However, you may want to try Adam4Adam.com. This gives you chance to browse providers and “wink” at them or imply that you’re open to a “companion/generous”. However, it’s a bit harder deciphering who’s who and best to stick with paid pro members, versus random hits asking if you’re “generous”.

Thankyou! I’m ready to next level everything: it’s already off to a great start (though the actual day of my birthday I’m just catching up on some loose ends, no pun intended 😉

I can imagine. And this is not to be judgmental because I’ve been there: literally AVAILABLE NOW and all day/all week waiting and waiting for a client to call. It’s not a good place to be, and actually had it occur last week when I was posted in a hotel in Arkansas. I shoulda stayed at my friend’s place, but it was a Friday night and a previous visit to the town got me a couple of clients. But to see someone “available now” all the time does make me feel like maybe business is slow for that guy or they are really in need of a client. Which again, not judging…nothing wrong with being available now. But if every time I log on I see the same escort “available now”, it does make me wonder.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. May I ask: how often do you find looking for “now” works out versus booking in advance? I am going thru my phone currently, as I’m now going to have (3) phones: 1 for personal use, one for clients, and one for my ads that I’ll be separating from the 2. One thing I noticed: I have 105 blocked numbers. 105! It may sound crazy and I’m considering redeeming all of these and starting fresh, but some of them are blocked because they refuse to book with any sort of notice even when suggested to do so. And I’m not just talking about being contacted the same “night”. But contacting me at like 7 a.m. asking if I can meet now. One guy kept messaging me at odd hours, and even though we had a fun 1st session..I blocked him because he would constantly contact me at the last minute, and each time it was an inconvenient time. I was like, if he can’t bother to use some common sense and find out a mutually agreeable time, I don’t want to deal with that.

This topic is quickly reverting to a topic about bathhouses, which isn’t the message. This sums it up well. But likewise there is no comparison. I’d say Grindr unfortunately is a bigger effect than bathhouses are. However, it’s still the same concept. I do know clients who talk of going to bathhouses, and they may call me before or after going anyway. And like you said: this thread hypothesis fails to address the biggest caveat: many cities outside of the NYCs DCs and San Frans, don’t have bathhouses as it is. I was in Arkansas last week in the middle of nowhere. You know what the bathhouse was? A Gay couple who owns a large home and pool. So, whether bathhouses open or close, Gay guys will be having sex parties (or gatherings where it involves wearing underwear around other men) regardless. Even in Orlando, the one big bathhouse by the name of club Orlando, I’ve browsed there and it’s not conducive. Also, many clients are often looking for sex during the day hours. Bathhouses often have slim pickings that time of day. You can probably pick up someone for sure, but it’s just enough to get you by usually. Bathhouse sex is like eating at McDonald’s until you have time to go out for Prime Rib 😂