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Escorts are the ones marketing themselves. When you’re in business, you generally accept that some potential patrons won’t want what you’re marketing. There are escorts that emphasize a particular experience that doesn’t appeal to me, and given they choose to emphasize that, I pass on. That’s their product, if you will. And if their body is the product they’re marketing, then it will be assessed. What is strange isn’t that an escort would be assessed according to physical traits but that a client would be. Part of the escorting world is the reality that providers are willing to be with guys they might not otherwise be willing to be with if it weren’t for the financial transaction. And the clients are willing to pay for that attention. If clients who would otherwise face discrimination in a moneyless world have to face it in the escort market, it largely defeats the purpose. The beauty of a market is that folks are treated equally. Certain things are acceptable such as hygiene, but on the whole, for the escorting market to work, what works in the dating/hookup world can’t be the expectation. An escort who works along those lines is just looking to get paid for a hookup he could just as easily get for free. If you have hang ups that list from here to Timbuktu, then escorting is most likely not for you.

? It’s extremely troubling you lump obese folks into a “disgusting” category. And we need more proof there isn’t sizist discrimination in the gay community...?

Because obesity does not necessarily mean bad hygiene. We call that a post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy. Or we could could just call it prejudice. Whichever suits you.

Is your assumption that obese guys are unhygienic?

@mike carey – a good escort makes you feel desired and appreciated despite those things, such as obesity, that society would call disgusting. There are of course certain things like hygiene and manners that, I would think, classify as dealbreakers, but on the whole I feel one of the great services an escort offers is to make those of us undesirables feel momentarily desired.

While the original question wasn’t about what makes a bad client, rather how much of the potential pool is composed of bad clients according to escort opinion, I’m wondering if you classify obese clients as bad?

While the original question wasn’t about what makes a bad client, rather how much of the potential pool is composed of bad clients according to escort opinion, I’m wondering if you classify obese clients as bad?

If I were a teacher, assigning points for answering the question asked, no one here has answered the question but @peterhung85, who is an escort. I’d have to say most here get 0 or 1 out of 10 points, for not answering the question asked. The question wasn’t “What is a bad client” or even “What kind of client is the worst,” but rather “How many clients (assuming all who reach out are clients) are bad?”

If I were a teacher, assigning points for answering the question asked, no one here has answered the question but @peterhung85, who is an escort. I’d have to say most here get 0 or 1 out of 10 points, for not answering the question asked. The question wasn’t “What is a bad client” or even “What kind of client is the worst,” but rather “How many clients (assuming all who reach out are clients) are bad?”

Sex workers are still people...deserving of dignity. ??‍♂️

Well...You took that the wrong way. “Decent” is recognizing he doesn’t have to give me the time of day if I’m not comping him. So I try to “gift” him things from time to time, even when we’re not seeing each other. He also engages me when I text him out of the blue and when we’re together, I get a good rate and he goes above and beyond. So...No, he’s not a specimen and I’m not a walking ATM. Boy – people can be crude, even when sarcastic.

@poolboy48220 – I try to be decent toward my regular even when we’re not seeing each other. I find it works out well for us both.

Once had an escort (well loved on this forum) shower me with excessive compliments and praise during our time together. Later he ghosted me when I was looking to see him again. So I’m going to say that his compliments weren’t real. They didn’t seem genuine in the moment, but I took that as part of the experience. I guess I didn’t realize how bad he felt our time together actually was until I tried to reach out again.

I didn’t but @dupontversDC said he was thinking about it.

@DynamicUno – wow.... ? That’s some commitment to asshettery...

Learned that the hard way...

Any profession has specialized skills. Even the Walmart cashier – people skills go a long way. I’ll avoid cashiers I don’t like. Looks may not be required for a carpenter, but that’s also not what I’m paying for either. What does me being an escort or not have to do with this? You don’t have to be a service provider to have some understanding about what good service is. I don’t feel my expectations are unreasonable.

Not everyone could be a carpenter. I answer all questions asked truthfully. And my age hasn’t been the presenting issue for any escort thus far. I sense that older guys are more concerned about that than need be.

On the whole, how many clients are really that bad? Is the fear and talk of a bad client really warranted? I said in a post in the Deli I’d ask this here. It seems like it’s an ongoing concern and I’m curious just how widespread bad clients are. I have no doubt there are clients from hell. And flakes. I’d count flakes as bad clients for this discussion. Clients who actualize and guys who never follow through – how much of your escort energy is spent on these less-than-ideal interactions? If a client turns out to be bad, would you allow him to rehire? What makes that determination for you? Genuinely interested...

I just hope escorts are truthful about their stats if posted by them and don't imaginarily get rid of pounds and years. As I say – what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The suspicion toward clients and blanket defense of nearly all escort behavior by some here I don’t fully understand. It’s a transaction. The escorts aren’t doing us a favor out of the goodness of their hearts – although some we have longer-term relationships with may come to like us and give us benefits. This is a business, and if the provider of services is shitty at providing the service, start to finish, then he rightfully could be criticized for that. A mover who has horrible customer service reps in the office isn’t going to get a 5-star review even if the actual guys doing the moving are good. The same for an escort. The time together may be great, if it happens, but advertising, reaching out, and booking should also be good for a holistically positive experience. This idea that clients need to be reviewed is also odd to me. Walmart doesn’t care if I’m a good customer or not. They want my money so they sell me a product. The only thing they may consider about my worthiness is if I use a card to pay. If I pay with cash, they don’t care. While the comparison isn’t 1:1, it’s similar. A plumber doesn’t do a background check on someone who reaches out to have new bathroom fixtures installed. If you hire someone to mow your lawn, they aren’t going to need to know if you offered the poolboy a glass of iced tea or not. I can understand why a provider might want to know about their clients beforehand, but part of being in business is taking the risk that not every client is Mr. Rodgers. Sometimes you get a Karen. Also – on the whole, how many clients are really that bad? Is the fear of a bad client really warranted? I may pose that question in the Ask An Escort forum. It seems like it’s an ongoing concern and I’m curious just how widespread bad clients are.

Some providers will include this info in their description. I find that helpful. “No hang ups about you (age, height, weight etc) Sexually, I am open to most. Not many things are off limits. If you are into mild or wild, let’s chat. Kinks, fetishes or just something vanilla, I’m in. No discrimination or judgement and I expect the same.” Reading something like that in a profile makes me expect the provider is indeed open. I still like to confirm because, unfortunately, though it’s written, it doesn’t mean that it’s accurate. Sometimes these ads are worth less than the paper they’re written on. It has to make it especially difficult for the guys who do mean that when they write it. That’s why this forum is so invaluable. It helps separate the wheat from the weeds.

I didn’t “miss” the post. I was busy for a few hours. Thanks for the link. Like I said, I was just curious. Nothing more ??

The provider should market themselves as the product – as crude as that sounds. Some guys are desperate for work and will fuck anything that sort of moves. Others have guys blowing up their phones so they can be less concerned about getting clients. Others aren’t in it to “make money,” but want some lucrative fun on the side of life. Each of these types will provide a different kind of response toward prospective clients. As for me, I lose interest in a guy who out the gate, with little discussion, says he can deliver on what I’m looking for. He’s desperate for my money and likely won’t deliver because all he’s seeing in me is a means to cash. The guy who takes a little time to understand what you’re looking for wants to please you and get your money. The money is always part and parcel, but I expect a return on my investment.

@Gymowner – To your point I think there’s a qualitative difference between a provider unable to get it up without chemical assistance and a provider refusing to see someone. I’m not here to say that either is right or wrong, but needing viagra isn’t the issue. The issue, as I see it, is whether providers just decide, for whatever reason, to only see clients of a particular type while some see a much wider pool. That said, I probably wouldn’t like the personality type of a guy who’s liable to turn down meeting me based off of my undesirable qualities in the non-escorting gay sex world. Some are decent enough to say they don’t want to disappoint me by not delivering and some of those guys may well be genuine in that concern, but for others I suspect it’s “letting me down easy” while saving face in not needing to say I’m not his type. If there’s something I value more than anything it’s direct honesty, and I’m very good at ferreting out when I’m being verarsched.

I was just curious...