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I don’t think he wants to “give it a try.” He’s frustrated at the blatant disregard for his humanity in his former fuckbuddy.* He doesn’t see him as a person with wants or needs beyond fucking. And his own real use to him is when he’s horny...at 1am in the morning to boot! I hear you, @Gar1eth. It’s frustrating and you deserve better. *Why are we writing “f*ckbuddy?”

I’ll be frank. And I’m sure some here will love telling why they feel my frustration is wrong, but it irks me 1) how patronizing some of the older clients are in this forum and 2) how many of those same clients rush to the defense of (almost) any escort. Voice a frustration about providers? Well, see, you need to understand...But leave a provider voice some sort of frustration with clients, and many of those same clients are ready to jump on the bandwagon and condemn their fellow clients. I don’t like the team aspect of the whole thing – provider vs. client. But some here, clients and providers alike, reinforce that notion. I’m sure it’s a small minority of voices, but they’re loud. I like to think that providers want to provide a pleasurable experience all around for clients and clients want to be respectful of providers. Sadly, that’s not the case in some instances. But the way some on this forum talk, it would seem that every client is a waste of time and every provider is a victim. I don’t buy that narrative. I don’t like when people make a big show of leaving something online. It me because it’s more often than not a ploy for attention. But I’ll say that the behavior I’ve outlined above is making me really want to stop contributing here. Although I can bet the clients and providers whom I’m thinking about would welcome my silence, so maybe I should just stick at it. As I said, I do believe that most clients want to be respectful and most providers want to provide a pleasurable experience all around. It’s unfortunately the bad ones who stick out. When we do encounter the bad ones, it would be nice if instead of saying, “Well, you see...” if we would all, clients and providers alike, wouldn’t see it as one team against another but rather support one another. But that too is some unfamiliar to the wider gay culture – being mutually altruistically supportive of each other. I’m very happy and thankful for the providers who haven’t considered me a waste of time. I can say we’ve had a great time together. But it’s because we worked together, as a team, not as opponents. Such an arrangement can become a very good relationship and one to be appreciative of.

Thanks for your opinion. I find ignoring peope shit behavior – especially if someone addresses you directly.

We’ll have to disagree there.

No one is entitled to any attitude. Entitlement complexes are the root of a lot of our social ills.

If I noted any of that on my profile your speculation might have merit. Instead of making excuses for his shit behavior, you could commiserate with me.

I had reached out to him but his silence has soured me on him. Therefore I no longer find him attractive.

Great expectations lead to even greater disappointment.

That’s what I mean by a wider cultural phenomenal. A sad one. Is there a way people who care can change it? I feel like throwing your hands up in the air and saying que sera sera is not helpful.

That’s WhatsApp, which I don’t use with providers because it requires a real telephone number. I got burnt by a “provider” by using my real number some time ago, and so since then I use an app. I haven’t had issues. I use it too call too. In RM Messener though, ✔️✔️ means the guy has looked at the message. Let me be clear, I’m all about giving folks leeway. I know I’ve opened texts and things are going on and I forget to answer. That happens. But when it’s the opening overture and it goes unanswered as is the friendly followup, that gets under my skin and any grace I may have had evaporates very quickly.

Old age can be a curse.

? I can see clearly now... @marylander1940 wanted to have the conversation here so he could continue his geriatric cat fight with @WilliamM.

@marylander1940 wanted us to talk about RM Messenger here. There’s an aversion on this forum to having multiple threads on the same or similar topics – so much so that some long-time members would have threads that have gone silent after several years (ie. “died”) resurrected than a new one started.

My error. Even still. I didn’t think it directly germane.

Glad we’re both entertained then!

@marylander1940 – I’m not supposed to write in threads by @Jarrod_Uncut. You yourself told me to ignore it. And Jarrod says move along. Which is it? I’m sure @Monarchy79 has an opinion he’ll be delighted to share. (Yes, Monarchy79...that was meant to be sarcastic.) Furthermore, I didn’t think my comment about replying was exactly pertinent to this thread. That’s why I named it “Another thing...”

I’m talking not even responding to the initial reachout. Either way, as you say, got to move at some point. It’s a shame because, to my mind, it’s indicative of a wider problem beyond escorting.

I’m just stating my opinion. Does it bother you?

So what are you to make of it? As a general rule, I’ll engage people. I never understood how shooting off a quick response was that much of a time saver. What do you do with that extra 10 seconds spared by not responding? This, I am aware, is a refrain of mine. But it does seem like it’s a problem. Courtesy is no more...At least in communication.

One of the most frustrating things is when you see the ✔✔ in RM Messenger and don’t get a response. Assuming the best, you follow up with another “Hey, I’m just checking in” and get ✔✔ again, no response. It’s one thing to ghost after a bit of conversation and another simply to not respond. Simply venting...

Oh you misunderstood, @marylander1940. Just because you (or anyone) suggests it doesn’t mean I’m going to do it.

@marylander1940 is right though. You do complain. Objectively speaking you expressed your dissatisfaction and annoyance about client expectations (specifically the gym) and their behavior. complain- v. express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something

I’d rather pay for the real thing...I’m tired of porn.

As a general rule, I’m not interested in OF.

I’m beginning to think he’s nice to look at but that’s about it.